Mass Effect: Andromeda’s Criticism Was Like A Gut Punch, Says BioWare Dev
Mass Effect Andromeda
(Last Updated On: April 16, 2017)

Lead designer for Mass Effect: Andromeda, Ian Frazier, spoke recently with IB Times about working on the AAA sci-fi RPG epic with the rest of the BioWare team. However, part of the conversation veered into territory about the criticisms and feedback coming from the hardcore gaming community, and Frazier described it as being like a punch to the gut.

According to Frazier…

“As far as my personal reaction. I won’t speak for the other guys, but I spent quite a bit of my time on Twitter and various forums and such. And I won’t lie, it’s hard. It’s hard to see the criticisms, some of the challenges that are out there.

 

“It’s difficult because we do want to help, so you’re out on Twitter and forums and stuff trying to troubleshoot issues or give people a hint on something they’re struggling with. But to do that, to help the fans and try to absorb the feedback to better steer what we do next, you have to wade through a lot of crap. And that part is not a lot of fun”

The criticisms for Mass Effect: Andromeda centered around the fact that the game couldn’t even measure up to the technical performance or standards set by the decade old Mass Effect 1. These issues combined with a lot of the typical SJW talking points embedded into the story, and poor dialogue, left a lot to be desired, and plenty of people bummed about the newest entry in the Mass Effect franchise.

Frazier notes that he didn’t enjoy the “gut punch” when reality hit him hard, but it did help them get some insight into what it is they needed to address…

“Don’t get me wrong. I don’t enjoy the occasional gut punch, but on balance I think it’s really valuable that things have gone this way. Our ability to get feedback from fans on such a broad spectrum is great.”

BioWare closed down the forums on their own site, but a lot of fans migrated elsewhere, so they’ve had to go searching for feedback through the noisy and incomprehensible clutter of Twitter and Facebook.

BioWare has already released a patch for Mass Effect: Andromeda addressing the dead fish-eye effect and the body movements for some of the dialogue sequences for a few of the characters. However, they note that over the course of the next two months they’ll be fixing more of the characters’ faces and the poor lighting, graphics and animations as well. There’s no word on if they’ll also fix the awkward dialogue.

Maybe for the next BioWare outing they’ll actually make the game better than a decade old title and Frazier won’t have to worry about feeling like he got punched in the gut. Also, there’s still no ETA on when they’re going to add fair-skinned customization options so you can make light-skinned Asians and Caucasians/whites.


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  • Dave

    I have to say spending 80 hours on a game I thoroughly enjoyed from start to finish Their was some tedious parts but certain characters peeked my interest and I would go back to them hoping for more dialogue and most times their was however one bad point for me was the game felt like it was just the opening sequence and it’s set up more for mass effect 5 but I’d give it a solid 8.5/10 because some funky animations and bad reviews do not make a great game bad.

  • Adriana Paola Aguilar

    I find it funny that everyone complaining about the game are like “I played 5 hours and I returned it!”

    They drone on about how bad the game is and actually haven’t played it.

  • Adriana Paola Aguilar

    I find it funny that everyone complaining about the game are like “I played 5 hours and I returned it!”

    They drone on about how bad the game is and actually haven’t played it.

  • Adriana Paola Aguilar

    Holy shit people are so whiny people complaining about Andromeda. I’m almost inclined to think that most are either paid trolls, or entitled jerks. “SJW! Horrible!” is really where I see most people’s ‘critique’ lie and it’s laughable one at best.

    It has it’s issues but damn people really blow it out of proportion.

  • Adriana Paola Aguilar

    Holy shit people are so whiny people complaining about Andromeda. I’m almost inclined to think that most are either paid trolls, or entitled jerks. “SJW! Horrible!” is really where I see most people’s ‘critique’ lie and it’s laughable one at best.

    It has it’s issues but damn people really blow it out of proportion.

    • It has it’s issues but damn people really blow it out of proportion.

      Well, that’s usually what happens when one of the biggest sci-fi franchises in all of gaming fails to live up to the standards set by its decade old predecessor.

      People did the same thing to the Star Wars prequels.

    • It has it’s issues but damn people really blow it out of proportion.

      Well, that’s usually what happens when one of the biggest sci-fi franchises in all of gaming fails to live up to the standards set by its decade old predecessor.

      People did the same thing to the Star Wars prequels.

    • snakesandfrogs

      Well a screwed up game is a screwed up game. There’s no way around that fact. Btw I’ve put in close to 90 hrs so I feel confidence in my complaints. I only bothered putting in those bc I forked out money for it. Now I’m done with it and already sold it. Good riddance.

  • Ioannis Dimitriadis

    bought every game from bioware except this, that garbage western song on the first video, was not up to standard, just like the animations and uninteresting unattractive characters> If you want to call yourself bioware do better

  • Ebalosus

    At the very least I was expecting a lazy rehash of ME1. A competent lazy rehash, not something that looks like it was shat out in two years. What we got instead was an awful rehash of ME2 (the game where the Mass Effect franchise went to shit AFAIC), with a side helping of early-access-itis.

    Looking past the animation issues, the glitches, the wonky facial animations, and the phoned-in dialogue, I would at least be on-board if it had a good story and a well realised setting, but it doesn’t even have that?!

    Since ME2, they’ve sacrificed story and setting for characters and drama, thus MEA being the shitshow that it is, is something I saw coming: https://www.facebook.com/RetakeMassEffect3InitiativeLog/posts/1196178000404919

    Granted, I was expecting a competently executed shitshow, but nonetheless…

  • AJ

    Ian Frazier? A lot of longtime Madden players are having flashbacks.

  • Peter

    SJW has become a far too inflammatory term to use in any productive context whatsoever, and being anti-P.C./anti-SJW should not be “convenient cover” for simply being an asshole.

    • snakesandfrogs

      …and there goes an asshole.

      • Peter

        Seriously… While I am not onboard with this whole SJW nonsense, at what point do you draw the line between “simple anti-SJW” and “speaking whatever is on my mind to the point of just being an asshole”? Because it is not clear to me at all, where one should draw that line, given the rhetoric.

  • Cat

    To the white-racists/SJWs at Bioware:

    “Gut punched” was how I felt when Bioware started hiring white-hating devs and writers. It was how I felt when you didn’t add options to create light-skinned characters. When you clearly destroyed a beloved game series by proving how much you hate me simply because of my race, and tried to justify it by insinuating that was somehow ok because of what other races have dealt with. Way to strive for equality, there.

    So, yeah. Fuck you assholes.

  • Joaquin

    Things improve (combat, crafting, story) once you’ve leveled up a bit (in my opinion). But that character “creator” … ugh! I can’t even change default Sara’s hairstyle?! It’s a downgrade.

  • Wcp

    How about fixing the way the update made the game almost unplayable. So many issues came with the update. 140 hours of gameplay before the update and it ran flawlessly for me with ultra settings of course. No lockups no glitches no real issues at all aside from the wonky animations. 4 hours of playing after the update it locked up once an hour, and menus within the Apex part of the game just stick on the screen the first time, every time you do a debrief. The game runs terribly now all the way around comma I don’t think the update itself is the issues something has been added that is causing it period if I already have the game adding copy protection to it is a senseless waste and obviously causes issues. Get your head out of your backside and do something right BioWare

  • dave

    The only problems anyone should have with ME:A are all technical standpoint ones;

    – MANY task scripting bugs preventing them from actually being able to be completed.
    – WHY are there so many tasks that need the player to traipse all the way back to the task giver when a simple call through the hardsuit or on the Tempest will do the job?
    – Truly terrible animations. Worse than in any of the previous 3 ME games. Also, why do we have to suffer things like the 2 steps forward Ryder takes when leaving the Tempest before we can take control? GET RID OF THAT.
    – WHY do we have to take off every damn time we board the Tempest? Half the time at least it’s more likely we just want to sell stuff and make new stuff. Imagine the cool moment you could of had of the player standing in front of the Tempest bay door, it slowly opens in realtime with the player in control as the new world outside reveals itself.
    – TWO desert planets, seriously you couldn’t be more creative? The weather system is rubbish too make it more varied. Eg; Fog, snowstorms and high winds on Voeld, sandstorms, high winds and heat haze effects on the desert worlds.
    – Graphically less impressive than ME3, ME:A only succeeds in this area on scale and texture resolution, but theres still easy to find piss-poor textures. Eg; the news towers you put up and tree bark textures. Rock textures also look “soupy”.
    – Incompetent, clunky UI. For example; Who wants a massive list of level 1-10 weapons when you are only going to make / use the highest level weapon? Lower level weapons / armour should be superseded, or at least relegated to some kind of “Archived” folder to stop cluttering up menus.
    – Most augments (someone at Bioware is a Deus Ex / Ghost in the shell fan) are under powered and useless. 2% gains, really?
    – WHY do we need so many god damn currencies? “Misson Funds” and “Research Data” currencies both seem like they could easily be replaced just with needing credits. Given credits aren’t exactly free-flowing it wouldn’t make anything any easier and in fact would force the player more to think about what they really wanted and manage their resources more.
    – For the love of god fix the Galaxy Map properly hitting a button EVERY TIME to skip animations is monotonous. Just put a option in one of the game menus to turn them off.
    – Inconsistency galore, eg; why are the Rokaar (or however their name is spelt) using Milky Way weapons? WTF Bioware.
    – The game itself runs poorly with FPS randomly tanking for no reason. Particularly aboard the Tempest.

    – Extremely poor weapon balancing. Eg; Full auto assault rifles are far too under powered, there is one shotgun and one sniper rifle (that I won’t name to avoid spoilers) that make all other shotguns and sniper rifles useless where they are so OP. Also, why do the heatsinks HALVE the weapon clip capacity? (seriously try it, use the heatsink on a assault rifle like the Revenant for example, if it says the clip is 75 rounds you won’t get that you will get about 30 rounds) It is just retarded.

    – Standard cannon fodder enemies are WAY too bullet spongy. Also, why don’t they die when I smash in to them at 100+ in the Nomad? They damn well should.

    – Final boss is laughable, seriously, you thought hitting 3 console buttons and fighting cannon fodder enemies made for a good final boss after doing it a million times in the game already?
    – Tempest and Nomad are crap. Interior of Tempest is very poorly designed and jumping out of the Nomad all the bloody time to kill enemies instead of blasting them from a cannon on the Nomad is just repetitive. WE WANT THE CHOICE!
    – Whats the point in all the other non-story / loyalty related planets if we can’t land on at least some of them?

    – Not strictly technical but, WHY isn’t a single main plot point made out to be so important explained by the end of the game? I counted SIX major plot points, you explain none of them.
    – With all the stuff that is wrong with ME:A, you better not charge for DLC if you want even a faint hope of being forgiven by gamers for this mess of a game.

    I say all this not just as a ME fan, but also a game modder who knows how to do all of this, QA for ME:A is nothing short of extremely questionable to say the least. It would be unfair to lay ALL of the blame at the devs feet too, EA should of given the devs another 3 – 6 months to address all of these problems but the devs are most definitely not blameless here either.

  • PUMA Chomper

    More is not better they had 5 years and a formula that worked.
    But when you try to do too much you end up messing up what you are good at.
    ME is all about
    GREAT CHARACTERS
    GREAT STORY
    CHOICES THAT MATTER
    They could have given me one planet to explore but do the three things you are known for right.
    We got a little of everything and nuthing right.Everyone is saying the combat is improved is true but im not playing ME for the gun play so if it means that you will fuck up everything else just to get the combat right might as well just make a shooter.

  • d0x360

    Gamers will put up with tons of bugs and glitches for a good game. Look at the first mass effect, back when it came out it has bugs and it had horrible gameplay as far as the combat went but we played because it also had an interesting world, characters and dialog. Plus it allowed for roleplaying. Shep was basically a blank slate and he could be as nice or as mean as we wanted in most dialog scenario.

    Now we have Andromeda which has much improved shooting mechanics but it has boring characters, a boring world and horrible dialog choices. Now combine that with facial animation that’s actually worse than most characters in even the first game let alone the 3rd and you see why we take issue

    A series on the path to greatness has been ruined. Yea all the games have had their issues but aside from the ending of me3 the entire series got all the other stuff right .

    They should be ashamed of themselves and they should expect lots of people to be angry at them. Of course we should have all seen this coming during the mass Exodus if biowares staff over the last couple years. Hopefully they all come back together with Andromedas combat design team and they make a good game with a new IP because as far as I’m concerned…This series is dead to me.

    I put 15 hours into this game hoping it would get interesting…But I’m done. I don’t see it every happening. I’ve returned it at this point. No I didn’t get my money worth since I had to force myself to play every second. I’d rush through combat sequences trying to find that spark of interest in the story and I never did so I didn’t even get to enjoy the combat, the one thing they got mostly right

  • PUMA Chomper

    Is very simple companies are going to make their money regardless because the industry has grown immensely since ME1.
    The people buying and playing games were much less and the game developers actually gave a fuck because a flop meant closing the studio.
    Today they make their money back on pre orders alone.
    Games are split up between two or three studios and when you have TOO MANY HANDS IN THE POT DINNER IS SHIT.

  • Bigfatdane

    Too little too late, the gaming media and Bioware has poisoned the well so effectively I’ll never trust anything from them again.

    I just don’t get modern day gaming, its like companies are offended from getting a backlash when they sell a half finished products with a label saying you’re a racist, sexist, islamaphobic scumbag if you don’t like it.

  • ✪ Shamz ✪

    Regardless that all the youtube trash is only focusing on bad animations, which weren’t THAT bad anyway, the rest of the game is just lacking. Bad story, boring companions, too many fetch and filler quests, unbelievable amount of bugs and technical issues. The ending is the most anti climactic ending I’ve seen in a long time, it’s actually worse than ME3 if that’s even imaginable. Oh and where’s DX12? It’s built right into the engine, where is it?!

    As I said when I saw the very first game play videos; Inquisition with Mass Effect paint, and that is exactly what this game is. Bioware is simply just a shell of it’s former self before the EA cancer happened.

  • Raging Papist

    Good. I hope that gut-punch makes him consider the shitty product he made, and to not do it again… But he probably will.

  • Global_Saffer

    See you in 2 months!

  • Alex Gregory

    Yes, and I told you this was going to happen. I was there with many others on your forums in the last few days, trying in vain to tell you that closing down the BSN in favor of sticking to closed platforms (like Twitter and NeoGAF, among others) where you control the narrative was going to bite you in the ass hard. And bite it did.

    I have no sympathy for a group of people who willingly shut their ears and forgot how to solicit feedback because of their incompetent forum staff, and decided to let a horde of SJW’s and sycophantic fanboys dictate the reception.

    I consider this justice for the way you handled ME3, in which you used EA’s PR department to characterize anyone who criticized the game as a whiny fanboy who didn’t understand the “artistic integrity” you whipped up in the last few weeks. You deserve all the blowback you got, and then some.

    • Cat

      Hear! Hear!

  • Charlie Fraser

    Look at me, sitting here, enjoying the hell out of this game. Or shouldn’t I say that around here? Do I risk getting beat to death? Forgive me, all-powerful keyboard soldiers!

    • Bro, there are people out there who enjoy Drake of the 99 Dragons. There are also people out there who lust after Rosanne Barr.

      Your vice and pleasures are all on you, bro.

    • ptitty

      Congrats. You have a differing opinion than rest of the consumers who bought it. What do you win? The enjoyment you got from playing it.

  • Jangocat

    Aside from the SJW stuff that is so clearly being pushed and is borderline offensive, their problem is it’s just a bad dumbed down game. No renegade/paragon makes it feel like your conversation choices don’t matter and the games on rails. I’m sure they did that to save on extra animations and voice acting but they made an inferior game with little replay value. Previous games basically had four unique playthroughs with male paragon/renegade and fem paragon/renegade. No equipping companions is another dumbing down. Equipment other then you weapons don’t seem to matter much, there’s no radical difference in gameplay between the various armor. The custom character creation system is terrible. The inventory system is terrible. Too many simple filler side quests that aren’t rewarding. Most of the story is downright boring and the dialog is bad. Aside from a few of the bigger quests like the kett base and the final mission most of the missions just weren’t fun and sometime tedious. The amount of bugs are shocking. They couldn’t even get camera angles right in conversations. There were many times I couldn’t even see the characters speaking and often couldn’t hear them either because of the directional sound. I found multiple quests that just couldn’t be completed or were completed but never cleared the journal or gave me exp. I will give them combat is fun and the graphics are good, but not as good as they should be in 2017. Those are about the only positive things I can say. I won’t be giving Bioware $60 for any more titles at release that’s for sure. They are off my AAA developer list.

  • Beatnik Revolution

    The predictable outcome of when your hiring policies care more for token diversity points than actual merit. Turns out when you hire tumblrinas to do your writing you get fanfic quality with a splash of shitty shipping blogger fantasies.

    At least the shitty animations made me laugh, everything else about this game just makes me sad.

  • Alistair

    A SJW wet dream is a game that look unsexy and riddle with lots of social justice in it.

    And you have a game that is fucking shite.

    A true story.

    • Adriana Paola Aguilar

      Or some of us simply see the beauty in the world beyond big tits and ass.

      • Alistair

        Should i tell you a little secret, I have finish Kingdom hearts HD versions, i have played non ecchi games before. They scream lack of diversity in gaming.

        Im more diverse as i play every game from Kingdom hearts, to persona series and beyond. So Im more open minded.

        It doesn’t bother me with controversial games in a “free market”

    • Adriana Paola Aguilar

      Or some of us simply see the beauty in the world beyond big tits and ass.

  • Keystone

    Oh fuck off you talentless social justice hacks, you delivered a shit product and deservedly got shit for it by the gaming community. Nobody cares about your hurt fee fees.

    This is what they deserve after ME3’s ending and the antagonizing of gamers and ME fans alike; both in the immediate aftermath of ME3’s ending, and Andromeda’s release.

    I have zero fucking sympathy for these people, especially after they didn’t fire an open racist like Mannveir.

  • Gorgon

    At least they are acknowledging and accepting the criticisms, and not pretending to be victims of those evil homophobes, transphobes and alt-righters. That alone actually raised their credibility and my respect towards them a little bit.

    • It really doesn’t make a difference even if they are accepting the criticisms. The fact is that they’ve been injecting their SJW/feminist anti-white male agenda right from the start for MEA and they know it.

      They’re genuinely racist and sexist against Caucasian men, and they know it.

      I don’t think they’re going to learn their lesson. In fact, I think they’re going to double down even more for their future projects, like all SJWs do.

      Keep that in mind and think twice about giving them your ounce of respect.

      • Gorgon

        You are being way too dramatic there. Don’t blindly parrot what you see on /v/ and /pol/ from people who themselves have never played any of the games in question. They’re just as happy to push their own agenda as SJWs and feminists.

        • They’re just as happy to push their own agenda as SJWs and feminists.

          Different side of the same coin.

          As for what @GamesGoodMeGood mentioned… it is true that you should reserve handing out respect to them. They’re doing the PR thing to mitigate the damage and placate a lot of the hate they’ve received. But until they show that they’ve actually abandoned trying to brainwash people with the low-tier SJW stuff, I would say keep a cautious eye on them.

          • Gorgon

            I’m not saying they get a pass, just that this is a better response than I imagine them giving. Bioware’s reaction to ME3 ending criticisms was way worse by comparison.

            To be fair, Andromeda has many, MANY serious problems as a game, but SWJ agenda pushing is not the most serious or the most prominent. SJWisms there are very sparse and awkward, like an occasional respectful nod to their BSN audience.

            The main problem with Andromeda is that it’s a poorly designed and poorly made game and feels like a cash grab from whatever fans the Mass Effect franchise has left.

        • I like how you blindly accuse me of seeing and parroting /v/ and /pol/, despite me not really going to those sectors nor being part of nor parroting them in the first place.

      • Jangocat

        You’re right, I see it and I’m a lifelong centrist democrat. I’m no alt right radical conservative or radical liberal, I just call em like I see em. The ironic part is the vast majority of their customers in North America and Europe are white males. I know they sell games all over the world but that’s their core customer base they are dissing.

  • cunning linguist

    It seems the SJWs got their wish…this game is a full on legal, bought and paid for abortion. The talent drain at Bioware should have been a tip off, but sadly I chose loyalty over rational thought and all I have left is this bloated fetus that can’t live outside Bioware’ s safe space of a womb. Maybe I’ll put a safety pin through its heart and end the suffering.

  • Truth

    I was really enjoying Mass Effect Andromeda… up till the very moment that I COULDN’T FUCKING PLAY IT!!! stupid patch

  • tom_quantum

    If there’s one take-away from Mass Effect Andromeda it’s that white people were successfully reduced to a manageable 1% of the human population in Bioware’s utopian social justice future. Very “diverse” game.

    • Adriana Paola Aguilar

      Wow, it’s like you’re blind or never played the game.

      • tom_quantum

        I wonder how much attention you were paying though. Seriously. Look again. Almost no white npcs who aren’t visibly mixed race with one or more distinctly non-Caucasian physical features. There are a few, here and there. But it’s extremely rare. It sends a message that some will undoubtedly celebrate. Others, not so much.

      • tom_quantum

        I wonder how much attention you were paying though. Seriously. Look again. Almost no white npcs who aren’t visibly mixed race with one or more distinctly non-Caucasian physical features. There are a few, here and there. But it’s extremely rare. It sends a message that some will undoubtedly celebrate. Others, not so much.

    • Adriana Paola Aguilar

      Wow, it’s like you’re blind or never played the game.

  • AlecJ

    The worst part is that he still doesnt get what they did wrong.

    Im sure he has sat around a table with a bunch of like minded snowflakes talking about their feelings…..

    Im also sure not one had the foresight to understand why their game is a mediocre mess. They probably chalk it up to “design” choices, and not the tool box of jerks hired to make the game based on their skin color and ideology instead of expertise and actual competence.

    I have little sympathy for them, but i honestly hope they eventually figure it out. The gaming world is better off having Bioware be a top notch developer.

    Until then……….here, have som”more nothing– thats all i got for you…. lots and lots of nothing.

    • Otto Hansen

      Maybe you should try playing it?

  • StolenEyes

    All this proves is that BioWare (and by extension, EA) learned *nothing* from the fallout over Mass Effect 3.

  • First of all, in a sci-fi future where genetic alterations are done before children are even born, “Transgender” characters shouldn’t exist. The rest of the games openly mention genetic enhancements, therapy, and alterations that have made certain diseases extinct. Gender dysphoria should not be a thing in Mass Effect, because people can simply change their genes to either fix the dysphoria, or simply change their gender.

    The very fact this was shoehorned into the story is proof the writers didn’t give two shits about the universe, only pushing their own social opinions.
    Look at Star Trek. If someone wants to change their gender, they step into the transporter, load up the gender swap program, and hey presto, job finished.

    Secondly, the cinematic direction of the cut scenes that I saw was absolutely garbage. The pacing was off, the camera angles were wonky, and the tone was all over the place. Combine that with the monotone dialogue, and one has to sit and wonder what the hell the design team was doing all these years.

    Finally, every single animation I see has something wrong with it. When a character who is supposed to be running on flat ground actually looks like they’re exercising on a treadmill, you done f*cked up.

    • Tracker

      Gender dysphoria is not some kind of illness that should be “cured” through genetic manipulation RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

      • Phasmatis75

        According to John Hopkins it’s a mental disorder, so one has to wonder how they got past screening to even head to Andromeda in the first place.

        • Luca Wight

          It’s just a birth defect. The brain and the body don’t match up. A transgender male for example, has a male brain but a sexually female body. That is why dysphoria exists. The brain is set up for body parts it doesn’t have. It would not impair overall judgement and I assume in an ideal future, treatments would be easier. Right n we have surgeries, vocal training (transgender women’s voices won’t change with estrogen like a transgender man’s would with testosterone, so sadly, if they have a masculine voice that they want to change, their only option is vocal training. I think that there may be a way to surgical alter vocal cords, maybe, but I think it is risky.), hormones, name changes, legal gender changes, ect. There’s a lot that has to be done usually, but being transgender is not a delusion or something that would change your judgement.

          • Phasmatis75

            Trans is an extreme version of gender disassociation disorder. There was a news article the other day about how kids are going trans because it’s what’s cool in society. Trans is not a biological reality.

            People who undergo the surgery often end up committing suicide later on anyway. This is why John Hopkins went back over their old findings, conducted new research and refuted what you are saying. Their conclusions after MRIs, studies, etc is it is purely a mental illness that they now treat with medication and counselling.

          • Adriana Paola Aguilar

            The reason they commit suicide is far more often because of the societal judgement and hate passed on to them rather the actual surgery.

          • snakesandfrogs

            Well if they hadn’t have done it in the first place there would be none of that judgement. Common sense is clearly no longer common only idiocy is.

          • Adriana Paola Aguilar

            The reason they commit suicide is far more often because of the societal judgement and hate passed on to them rather the actual surgery.

  • Being punched in the gut was like playing Mass Effect: Andromeda.

    • snakesandfrogs

      My wallet lost its gut thanks to this…whatever it is.

  • Joe Joejoe

    They all deserve actual gut punches, from every customer.

    • snakesandfrogs

      I pre-ordered so they’ll get 2 from me: one for the day I ordered it and a second for the day I started playing it.

  • Mr.Towel

    Classic SJW slice of life:

    Made a shitty thing.

    People complained on his shitty thing.

    His feelings got hurt.

    Now he’s the victim, not the incompetent.

    Go suck a dick.

    • snakesandfrogs

      Could not stop laughing. Also kinda sad.

  • Art

    Well, they shouldn’t have closed down their own forums.

    At least the “crap” (as Frazier so eloquently put it) would have been centralized for easier wading.

    • Their forums was a fanboy/girl/xir echo-chamber. All they did was suck the schlong of BioWare’s decision making. I agree they shouldn’t have closed down the forums, but it wasn’t a very good place to get proper, critical feedback.

      • Art

        It wasn’t 100% schlong-sucking, trust me. Some of my posts there ripped them a new one so hard I’m surprised they didn’t whistle when they ran down the street.

        • I mean, look, sure, there were people who did rip them a new one and gap them harder and wider than Bertha making its way through the Alaskan Way Viaduct, but let’s be honest here: majority of the forums were playing defense for BioWare worse than the Sony Defense Force from 2007.

  • Version_8

    It’s funny, the SJWs will attack games and devs that lack diversity, trans-fluid-binary-gender-whatevers, find extremely sexist and cater to cis white males. SO the devs bow down to their SJW overlords, create the perfect SJW game, then act all victimized when their SJW staff creates a polished turd that the people who actually buy and play their games find to be deplorable. Sorry you had to find out the hard way dipshit.

    • Otto Hansen

      It’s odd, because those people who cry out about SJW seem to be far more emotionally unstable and warrior like than those they attack.

      • No, those people attacking SJWs are absolutely sick and tired of their meddling, censorship and bullcrap ruining the hobby. All they’ve done is REGRESS gaming and move it backwards.

        What kind of delusional moron defends a company who couldn’t even make a game up to the technical standards of the same game in the franchise released 10 FREAKING YEARS AGO?

        Do you get upset when people get angry with car companies for making their cars less safe?

        Do you mock people who get pissed off when the clothes they purchase is of lower quality than the ones they purchased a decade earlier?

        Do you point and laugh when someone has to pay more for a little wiener when they used to get big ‘ole foot-longs in years passed?

        No one likes paying more for little wieners. They just aren’t satisfying.

        • standingstone76

          “couldn’t even make a game up to the technical standards of the same game in the franchise released 10 FREAKING YEARS AGO?”

          what a load of shit. I get it, you’re one angry guy, bully for you – but what a gigantic pile of shite. In what sense is ME:A less technically competent than the OT games ? Graphics? nope. Audio? nope. Level/area size? nope.

          I have spent years playing & replaying the original Mass Effect games. They’re great. ME1 in particular for it’s overall feel, ME2 plays like the best space buddy action movie ever, and ME3 – issues with the ending included – built on both earlier games.

          In what universe do you reside that the *technical* issues ME:A has are worse than it’s predecessors? ME1 had janky animation all over the place, fucked up camera angles galore, and all the technical limitations of an xbox 360 game. All 3 OT games had poor – and at times atrocious – lip sync. Meshes were lower poly, textures were absurdly low-res in places. ME2 had loading screens whose video clips had to run all the way through before you could progress – whether your console/PC had everything already loaded or not.

          *Technically*, ME:A stands head & shoulders above the previous games even with it’s release day flaws. Saying otherwise is just bunkum.

          • In what sense is ME:A less technically competent than the OT games ? Graphics? nope. Audio? nope. Level/area size? nope.

            No multi-pass lighting on the characters during dialogue.

            http://i.imgur.com/9DYJoKL.jpg

            http://i.imgur.com/OqrgS25.jpg

            10 years later and they have fewer specular highlight passes on the character faces. Why? Multi-pass shaders are already built into the Frostbite 3.

            Pre-patch they didn’t even have refractive lighting for the eyes, as evident in the image I linked above. Notice that Shepard at least has reflective and refractive passes over both eyes.

            The Frostbite allows for physically based rendering, yet none of this is passed over the models during final render for the characters in indoor or outdoor environments (again, this ties into a lack of multi-pass light shaders being applied to the character models).

            ME1 had janky animation all over the place, fucked up camera angles galore, and all the technical limitations of an xbox 360 game.

            Of course it did, and yet it’s somehow WORSE in Andromeda. The camera shifts and pans during dialogue at odd times (just go watch any conversation with Hannity, even post-patch 1.05).

            ME1 suffered from janky animations because a lot of it was hand-animated, and they didn’t have blender tools built into the engine back then (it was running on the jankiest version of the Unreal Engine 3, by the way). What’s the excuse for the janky animations in Andromeda? The ANT system is literally built into the Frostbite 3, enabling next-generation key-frame and mo-cap data animation blending between hand-animated sequences and performance capture data, including real-time animation capture based on 4D scanning technology using 1:1 real-time photogrammetry.

            *Technically*, ME:A stands head & shoulders above the previous games even with it’s release day flaws. Saying otherwise is just bunkum.

            No it’s not. Texture res was low due to hardware limitations, and meshes had the same excuse. But even by comparison Andromeda doesn’t look THAT much better. Worse yet is that the lip-synch was off worse than ME1 until Andromeda’s patch 1.05. There was a delay in animation synching with the audio, so you’re objectively wrong about it being “head & shoulders” above previous games on release day.

            As I mentioned in other posts, the environments look great and the outdoor lighting — especially with the Re/Shade ENB mod enabled — gives the game a proper render that matches the quality that the Frostbite is known for. But as far as everything else, it’s below standard to everything else on the market from AAA studios, and barely passable to what was achieved a decade ago.

            I even did an article breaking down the differences between the two in further detail.

          • Wulfen73

            I love how you point at genuine technical flaws and suddenly silence…

          • Adriana Paola Aguilar

            I’m beginning to think that all these whiners are just trolls.

          • snakesandfrogs

            Well congratulations on feeding them. =D

          • Adriana Paola Aguilar

            I’m beginning to think that all these whiners are just trolls.

      • Alistair

        And yeah I bet them also to blame for censorship in games. A true classic denial.

      • bwhitz

        “t’s odd, because those people who cry out about SJW seem to be far more emotionally unstable and warrior like than those they attack.”

        Yea, sure… this is why we see temper-tantrum riots on campuses when someone like Milo Yiannopolis comes to talk. What reality are you living in? Have you not seen the countless videos of SJWs crying and screaming like children all across the Country?

        • DetekTerk

          The anti-PC community tends to blow things out of proportion though. They are becoming just as cancerous as SJWs.

          • MONAD

            I see people that are sick and tired of being told what to think and how to think.

            I see people who are sick and tired of being shit on because they were born white.

            Blowing things out of proportion? No dear, you see people that are fucking tired and are standing up for themselves.

          • Hien Tran (August)

            Wow. I wonder how it feels to be told what to think and how to act, being shit on for being a certain race, and having to stand up for yourselves. It’s not like people of color and people of the LGBT community have ever experienced these ever.

          • MONAD

            Uh-huh. Huh.

          • MONAD

            Whew, lad. It’s almost as if experiencing it on both sides is shit and it needs to fucking stop. Instead of constantly blaming others for your shit life decisions and choices, how’s about now taking a little personal responsibility now that you’ve shown the other side what it’s like, yeah?

          • Hien Tran (August)

            Accept my apologies.
            I do not hate or resent you for being white or straight or a man (if you so happen to be any or all three). I admit the mocking was a dick move, but because of who you are? No. I thought, “And you think /we/ don’t know what that feels like? We get /killed/ just for being who we are, bro. Have been since forever. Look who you’re talking to.”
            But that mindset is flawed. Yes, it sucks to be hated for who you are, no matter what side. LGBT and PoCs have experienced this since forever and through grueling severity. Nobody wants to feel like they’re lesser or hated for just literally existing.
            But what do you mean “blaming others for our life decisions and choices,” and “taking personal responsibility?” We know how to take responsibility. Being LGBT or PoC isn’t a choice. But me being Asian and gay isn’t a choice, either–it’s who I am. I’ve been shitted on so hard by strangers and my own family. I don’t even have a family when it all comes down to it. I can take responsibility. Trust me, I refuse to push blame on someone else when I know I’m at fault for something.
            I just hope you care as deeply about us being hated for who we are as you are being insulted for who you are.
            And despite how I came off, I do sincerely believe we’re all equal and wish no harm or hate on anyone. It was just years of experience and frustration coming out.
            LGBT and PoC aren’t trying to tell you how to act or live your life. They’re not trying to make you feel like shit for being who you are. We hate the culture of being privileged. Not the people themselves, unless they’re actually being racist or sexist or homophobic or whatever.
            Hope we see eye-to-see. And if you know what it feels like, that you also hate when people treat us like shit, too. Sorry bout that. Cool?

          • MONAD

            I’m bisexual. I do care about people being hated for who they choose to represent as individual persons. What I DON’T fucking appreciate is it being justifiable, nay, ENCOURAGED to throw a lot of that shit back in my face just because I happen to be a HWHITE man. Also, I don’t consider myself apart of the LGBT “COMMUNITY” Mostly due to the toxicity of that very loud and very vocal majority that want respect simply on virtue of who they fuck in the bedroom.

            I get that it’s frustrating, my dude, I do. I tend to hide my bisexuality around others simply due to the fact that I live around a religious community. Yet, somehow I’m okay with it. I wouldn’t want their shit shoved in my face 24/7, so why should I shove my shit in theirs? I happen to believe if you SHOW respect for others, you’ll receive it. You don’t just roll up on someone and demand someone respect you because of who you sleep with. I understand that it’s painful to hide who you truly are, but sometimes man, you do have to accept that that’s how society works.

          • Adriana Paola Aguilar

            No, not because of who you sleep love, you should be respected regardless of who you bed because you’re human. Which is exactly the problem. I’m bisexual as well and people seemed so concerned with who the hell I’m with. My parents begged me not to date blacks, my friends don’t truly think I’m attracted to girls because I’m dating a man, it’s this kind of bullshit. instead they could just accept me like they accept anyone else, you know instead of forcing on me who they think I should be with.

            The issue has never been to indoctrinate anyway, that’s just bull paranoia from the closed minded. Instead it is acceptance, to allow others to live and not make them miserable because they were born a certain race, or with a certain sexuality. Very simple complex, and our society would be eons ahead if we weren’t so vent on hating one another for things that out of our control.

          • My parents begged me not to date blacks, my friends don’t truly think I’m attracted to girls because I’m dating a man, it’s this kind of bullshit. instead they could just accept me like they accept anyone else, you know instead of forcing on me who they think I should be with.

            This has been going on since the dawn of human civilization, regardless of orientation, gender or race.

            Yes, your parents are always going to be judgemental about who you’re with because you’re their daughter and most parents want the best for their kids. Do most parents practice some form of exogamy? Yes. Whether you’re black, white, asian, hispanic, etc.

            That’s not to mention there are some parents who take pride in their kids providing them with natural born offspring, which can’t happen in a homosexual relationship. Sure you can adopt, but that’s not always something parents expect from their kids due to natural human pride in homogeneous offspring.

            At the end of the day, you do you. Your choices are what matter, and society will never not attempt to control those choices.

          • My parents begged me not to date blacks, my friends don’t truly think I’m attracted to girls because I’m dating a man, it’s this kind of bullshit. instead they could just accept me like they accept anyone else, you know instead of forcing on me who they think I should be with.

            This has been going on since the dawn of human civilization, regardless of orientation, gender or race.

            Yes, your parents are always going to be judgemental about who you’re with because you’re their daughter and most parents want the best for their kids. Do most parents practice some form of exogamy? Yes. Whether you’re black, white, asian, hispanic, etc.

            That’s not to mention there are some parents who take pride in their kids providing them with natural born offspring, which can’t happen in a homosexual relationship. Sure you can adopt, but that’s not always something parents expect from their kids due to natural human pride in homogeneous offspring.

            At the end of the day, you do you. Your choices are what matter, and society will never not attempt to control those choices.

          • MONAD

            Except you’re ignoring the very real majority that DO want respect on the basis of who they fuck. You’re also ignoring the very real issue of telling white people that they’re worthless in a liberal setting. That’s not paranoia dear. Have you actually SEEN what they’ve been teaching kids in majority Liberal areas?

          • Adriana Paola Aguilar

            Hun, telling you that nonwhite lives matters has never ever meant white lives don’t matter. In fact, in the history of America, white lives have always mattered more than anyone elses. I’m not sure where you get the idea that liberals hate white people as a rule of thumb it’s certainly not in this world.
            As for bill. Of course society will never not tell you things. But we still have the choice of steering that towards a state that people can better coexist, instead of needlessly hating others.

          • MONAD

            Paranoia? LMAO. Honey, have you actually seen what they’re teaching kids in school?

          • Adriana Paola Aguilar

            No, not because of who you sleep love, you should be respected regardless of who you bed because you’re human. Which is exactly the problem. I’m bisexual as well and people seemed so concerned with who the hell I’m with. My parents begged me not to date blacks, my friends don’t truly think I’m attracted to girls because I’m dating a man, it’s this kind of bullshit. instead they could just accept me like they accept anyone else, you know instead of forcing on me who they think I should be with.

            The issue has never been to indoctrinate anyway, that’s just bull paranoia from the closed minded. Instead it is acceptance, to allow others to live and not make them miserable because they were born a certain race, or with a certain sexuality. Very simple complex, and our society would be eons ahead if we weren’t so vent on hating one another for things that out of our control.

          • Wow. I wonder how it feels to be told what to think and how to act, being shit on for being a certain race, and having to stand up for yourselves. It’s not like people of color and people of the LGBT community have ever experienced these ever.

            So basically, your solution to it is revenge by doing the same thing to the race and gender who once oppressed you?

            Technically, doesn’t that make you just as bad (if not worse) than the oppressors you fought against?

            Just something for you to think about before you go screaming for Caucasian men to be killed.

          • Hien Tran (August)

            I never hated anyone for being white, straight or a man. I don’t dream about them being killed. I’m not a heartless bastard, God. I’m a frustrated one who said the wrong thing.
            I was mocking because of the “you think you have it bad?” mentality. Was it shitty. Yeah. I admit. And I apologized to MONAD as I will apologize to you.
            But I’d never agree to hating someone cause of who they are, even if they’re the ones in power or the oppressors. The vast majority of you guys were just born who you are, living out your lives.
            Most of us who are LGBT and PoC don’t actually hate you for being white, or straight, or a man. If I hate someone, it’s not for their race or gender or if they’re straight or not. I hate the culture that reinforces this ideology that you’re better or “normal” for being straight, white and/or a man, and lesser for being otherwise.
            If you’ve been insulted for being any of the three, then you’ve got a taste of what it feels like. I hope, in the end, we all got our backs on this. It’s shitty to be shitted on for existing.

          • I hate the culture that reinforces this ideology that you’re better or “normal” for being straight, white and/or a man, and lesser for being otherwise.

            But… where is this taking place?

            Sure you’ll find those sentiments on /pol/ (especially if you’re Jewish… and even if you’re a straight male). But where else in our society is it being broadcast that being a straight, white, male is the ultimate living experience?

          • Hien Tran (August)

            If being a straight white cisman is privileged, of course society at large isn’t going to broadcast it. Nobody likes to feel like they had it easier and that would be announcing to people who aren’t a straight white man that they’re not viewed as equals.
            But it’s something you need to think on to see it. You actually need to look it up and research it. Even typing up “racial wealth gap,” and you get an immediate first hit. The median income of a white family in 2013 was $141,900. Blacks were at $11,000 Hispanics at $13,700.
            Kevin Miller, also a man, for the AAUW issued a report on the wage gap between full-time working men and women by state in 2015. In the state of NY, men made, in median annual earnings, $52,124, whereas women made $46,208. In California, men made $50,562 and women $43,335. In the U.S. as a whole, men made $51,212 and women $40,742
            If you look at the Bureau of Justice’s 2014, report, you can find that black men were incarcerated at 5.1 times the rate of white men, despite there being more white men than black men in the U.S..
            The list goes on. All of these issues have deeper implications, though, and it’s a very complex thing. There’s LGBT and Racial studies dedicated to these things. I can’t even start to succinctly show you the full history.
            Again: it’s something you actively have to look up, because it’s not something society at large and people want to openly admit. It’s something a lot of people don’t actually really even fully know. Everyone thinks because we have equal employment laws and anti-discrimination or what-have-you, it means we’ve solved the problem of racism or homophobia. It doesn’t. These things are still around, otherwise you wouldn’t even have the LGBT movement still going on or things of that nature. These groups exist because we are oppressed and underprivileged. And where there is someone underprivileged, there, by logic, has to be someone on top.

          • And where there is someone underprivileged, there, by logic, has to be someone on top.

            I haven’t checked in a while, but I was pretty sure Asian men (including those from the middle east) earned the most income in America. By that token, wouldn’t they be the oppressors sitting at the top?

          • Adriana Paola Aguilar

            No, Asians are a minority. Even if they wanted to there wouldn’t be enough of them to make it work. White people hold more positions of power than asians do in America.

          • Adriana Paola Aguilar

            No, Asians are a minority. Even if they wanted to there wouldn’t be enough of them to make it work. White people hold more positions of power than asians do in America.

          • Wulfen73

            The majority ethnic group generally holds power in every nation, there are some exceptions, but they are rare

          • MONAD

            Dear. I’m a bisexual white man that was born with clubbed feet and have had SEVERAL surgeries done on them. Please. Do, inform me how ANY of that is fucking privileged. I’ve had to work harder to do things that you can do normally physically with no problem at all. I can’t do martial arts (though I would LOVE to be able to), I can’t exert myself physically because of my limitations, and I’ve come to accept this.

            But no, please do go on about me being privileged, JUST BECAUSE I HAPPEN TO BE FUCKING WHITE. My father killed himself when I was 17. I was molested when I was fucking TEN. Yes, dear. You just go on and tell me THAT I’M A FUCKING PRIVILEGED WHITE MALE.

          • snakesandfrogs

            I’m a straight white male and I can tell anyone my life hasn’t and never will be a cake walk by any stretch. So how is that now I’m suddenly, in just the last few years mind you, supposed to believe that I’m some kind of oppressor with all this supposed power when I’m only getting by. It sounds like there are irresponsibles out there who just want to be given an easier life by taking away what little myself and my family have. To that I say: I don’t think so.

          • Adriana Paola Aguilar

            Hien lmao It is exactly because they don’t see/don’t care to see exactly what you mention.

          • Adriana Paola Aguilar

            Hien lmao It is exactly because they don’t see/don’t care to see exactly what you mention.

          • snakesandfrogs

            If I could I would hug you. Tell it as it is!

          • Phasmatis75

            When SJWs have forced conservatives out of Academia, when they push “science” that is outright fiction based on their agenda, when they try to force everyone else out of politics while ignoring rampant voter fraud, when they openly discuss attacking and killing conservatives it is in no way blown out of proportion.

            Behind Islamic terrorism, Communist terrorism is the second most prevalent kind. These people are monsters who literally tried to disarm people for years and now openly call for white genocide.

          • Adriana Paola Aguilar

            No one has forced conservatives out of Academia. Academia requires an open mind, and conservatism, by definition does not.

          • MONAD

            “None has forced conservatives out of Academia”.

            Dear, they’ve all but demanded it. You’ve seen how these precious wittle children act when a Conservative speaker is invited by a group on campus. Look at Berkley. Those kids fucking rioted over someone SPEAKING. These people do not LIKE it when people have different views than them. Instead of…oh.. ACTING LIKE FUCKING ADULTS AND FINDING COMMON GROUND, their only option is to silence and shame them. These kids are intellectual fucking children, and it’s being taught that it’s okay to think like this. Get your head out of your ass and wake the fuck up.

          • Adriana Paola Aguilar

            Yiannapolis is a joke who loves to incite violence. Protesters have every right to protest, though Milo does have the right to speak as well. The violence from protesters came not from the university students but from outside people.

            While it was not right of them to do that, it is down right hypocritical to pretend liberals are the only ones who do that. Conservatives hate anything that doesn’t speak or look like them.

          • MONAD

            LMAO. Listen to how delusional you sound. Teachers have actively ENCOURAGED students to behave in this manner. They’re fucking children being told what to do. Like good little sheep, they obey.

          • Wulfen73

            So do “Liberals” there is no black and white here, this is a power struggle between two political groups, there is no good side, no bad side, you have two groups that are slowly being subsumed by their most extreme elements. At some of those protests I have seen someone carrying a Soviet flag while unironically accusing others of being evil fascists. Things are utterly out of hand, for both sides

          • Adriana Paola Aguilar

            No one has forced conservatives out of Academia. Academia requires an open mind, and conservatism, by definition does not.

          • Wulfen73

            So when was the last time the anti PC crowd hurled fireworks into a crowd of people? Or through windows attempting to start fires? Or trashed and looted businesses? Yeah

      • Salt Miner

        Howdy-do shill, what has George Soros been up to these days?

      • Adriana Paola Aguilar

        They are like little snowflakes, wouldn’t you say?

        • snakesandfrogs

          You liberals would know about snowflakes wouldn’t you. You go to one of your rallies and its like a blizzard.

      • Adriana Paola Aguilar

        They are like little snowflakes, wouldn’t you say?

  • Vrenna

    How do we describe what they did to the fans, the gaming community, the gaming industry, and the Mass Effect franchise though?
    A kick in the balls.
    You’re welcome motherfucker, here we take and give.

    • Alan Henderson

      Glad I cracked it rather than paying for a game which just isn’t worth the cash. Still testing it right now, only cracked it to test it, seems ok but boring.

  • Michael P

    “to better steer what we do next, you have to wade through a lot of crap.”

    So fixing it is just like playing it then?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e8112dc5c234b4df949f1879765dd523f9c82a144765124c65ee9da448758dbf.jpg

  • Bitterbear

    I’m just going to leave this here:

    Broadly speaking, the Dunning-Kruger Effect is defined as “a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability to recognize their [own] ineptitude.”

    • Version_8

      Ouch! ….. but if the shoe fits. Right?

    • LurkerJK

      I do not think this was a result of the Dunning Kruger effect, at least not completely, some parts of the development are obviously made by amateurs and those might be affected, but the ppl in the highest positions of the project just did not give a fuck, i can imagine them saying “good enough!”, “shippable!” and “meet me in my office to talk about it, we’ll bang, ok?” while angrily tweeting against trump, white ppl and whatever they got triggered by that day

      imho, The main problem is that they expected to piggyback the franchise with a half hearthed, disposable project made with diversity hires that had to be given something to do and they underestimated both, the bad blood they earned with Mass Effect 3, and the interest that a new sequel would gather during a release date with NOTHING else to talk about

      • bwhitz

        This is most likely 100% accurate.

      • Elilla Shadowheart

        There was likely no outside review testing, and likely no outside oversight. The same thing happened with DA2 remember? Bioware was one of the few acquisitions of EA where they left an enormous amount of leeway towards the satellite company because that’s what o’l Ray negotiated when he sold it.

      • Phasmatis75

        From Glassdoors we learned that their administration is heavily SJW and worked to force out any non SJWs from the company during the development of the game. They lost 9 high up people to this.

        • Adriana Paola Aguilar

          good

        • Adriana Paola Aguilar

          good

  • MONAD

    I had a feeling Bioware would attempt to come at this as them being the victim of the “evil hwhite gamer”. Oh, fuck yourselves. You knew EXACTLY what the fuck you were doing when you started your diversity hire bullshit. Don’t even get me started on the open racists you hired on your project that pissed a LOT of people off.

  • Thomas

    Since the patch installed I cannot even load my game. I can no longer play the game I purchased. The bar fills all the way up and stays like that. Autosave or manual saves. Anybody know a fix? New patch Bioware, please!

  • I find it hard to feel sympathy for a bunch of SJW tossers who do nothing but punch gamers and Caucasian men in the gut at every opportunity.

    • EroBotan

      i want to join in berkeley riot and gut punch antifas!

      • snakesandfrogs

        I saw one girl get punched right in the forehead. It was glorious. We won. #antifashithard Whats funny is how assbackwards SJWs are. They literally have their women on the front line and the pussy boys in the back all up against a line of fully grown mostly buff guys with their women behind them. I say keep sending your ‘women warriors’ first and let simple biology take care of the rest. The SJWs won’t last long.

  • anopolis

    most fans were “gut-punched” when one of the most loved franchises was treated with so little respect. when they hired a bunch of morons to write something so far above their heads, they’d have been much better off, just stealing some fan fiction. Sad thing is had they released mass effect 1 it would be a better game. Social commentary should tap your shoulder and whisper, not slap you in the face, and tell you how wrong you are.

    • MONAD

      Yep. Fans really were “gut-punched” when one of their favorite developers hired an open and out racist in the form of Manveer Heir.

      • Art

        Apparently Heir no longer works at BioWare (and has not since mid-March) if the link above is to be believed.

        • MONAD

          Don’t care. The fact that they hired him in the first place is enough.

          • BrahmsTwiter

            And didn’t fire him right away after his twitter racial twitter rants were exposed with their companies logo.

          • Well, come on… to be fair they may not have known about his racist tendencies, or his anti-white agenda. I don’t think several years ago his Twitter account was filled with all the racist stuff; that didn’t come until later. So technically, I can’t blame them for hiring him, but you can definitely blame them for not reprimanding him once it the issue was brought to their attention.

          • MONAD

            I dunno. I think they knew and just didn’t give a shit. You saw how they reacted once people started making complaints about his public Twitter account. Kinda makes me think that they knew, but didn’t give a shit, and / or used him as a distraction from the shit game they knew they were making.

          • Phasmatis75

            He bragged about how upper management not only knew about his rants but backed him on them. From Glassdoors we know that yes in fact their management is exactly those kinds of people. The only reason he was let go was probably because of EA, not Bioware.

          • He bragged about how upper management not only knew about his rants but backed him on them.

            Sure, but that was later… after he went on the rant. I was more-so talking about before they brought him in. If they didn’t know about his racist tendencies before they hired him, it’s not really their fault for hiring him in the first place. However, after he made his stance known publicly, and went on those racist tirades, there’s no excuse for supporting and standing behind that stuff.

          • Phasmatis75

            I agree with your position, I just doubt they didn’t know about his tendencies beforehand. Well EA corporate probably didn’t, but Bioware I suspect did given what is said about them on Glassdoors.

          • snakesandfrogs

            Exactly, if they are willing to make that kind of crappy decision it is worrisome what or who they will decide on next.

        • Phasmatis75

          They fired him after the project was complete. He was apparently okay to keep around during development.

  • ShepardRahl

    This is what happens when you admit that nearly the entire team working on the game were all completely new fanboy diversity hires.

  • SevTheBear

    If this game had 1 more year in development it maybe have been a decent game. That they even released it the condition it was is beyond WTF.

    ME1 was no masterpiece. The combat was bad and the exploration was boring. But the story, writing and characters was good and only got better in ME2. While the voice acting and writing for the most part was okay in the ME3, the many plot wholes, removed feel of RPG and a VERY badly writing ending pretty much killed it for many fans.

    That it took this much fail (DA2, ME3 and MEA) and the loads of ham-fisted PC ideology for Bioware and EA to get this wasn’t gonna fly for long, just show out of touch with reality they are. Let’s hope they have learned to from this.

    • Thomas

      Mass Effect 1 was the best story-wise. They did improve character depth in 2, taking what they learned with dragon age 1 and going a step further. ME3 was good but just had this bloated commercial feel to it.

    • Keystone

      Ideologues, especially the SJW variety, never learn.

      • SevTheBear

        MEA will be known for it’s messy facial graphic and buggy gameplay. The ham-fisted SJW BS is like second banana in this case.

        • Phasmatis75

          Also the game that killed Bioware.

          • SevTheBear

            Could be. But the game sold enough thanks to the hardcore blind fanbase. But if you mean the trust people had in Bioware… time will tell.

            Off topic. still rolling with Yakuza 0, Nioh. Nier is on hold thanks to the 1.04 update that has fucked up some of the menu text. A bug that was in the Japanese version 1.06 🙁 Persona 5 comes when I am done with Yakuza 0 + got my hands on REDOUT on sale… so many games x0

          • Phasmatis75

            It did well in the UK, but every new major title does well in the UK. The UK market is like a couple hundred thousand when something is big. When it’s big in America it’s a couple million. It topped charts, but only because it had zero competition. It’s not sad like Ghost Recon beating Horizon in it’s second week.

            Nioh is pretty good, I liked it’s combat more than Dark Souls, but the weapons start feeling samy after awhile. Definitely looking forward to the new story content coming soon. Persona 5 you’ll probably like, a bit of a step backwards for the series in a lot of ways, but overall a great game that’s eaten up already 40+ hours of my life. I plan to platinum that game, it’s just a blast.

          • SevTheBear

            Yeah in Nioh right now I am on Spear and Sword or Dual. Just seem to be the best combo. Heavy weapon is just pointless for me.

            Damn Platinum 0_0 That’s gonna take some replay I bet.

            A friend of mine who is big Persona fan is not even excited for P5 anymore after he has seen a few hours of it. He is more into Yakuza 0 (the big living city does a lot) which I admit has good writing and funny jokes most of the time. It’s hard to put away 😛 But the combat i not reason to play it xD

          • Phasmatis75

            Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll have to keep that in mind when I get extra money.

          • snakesandfrogs

            I’m ashamed to say i blindly pre-ordered but I’ve learned my lesson. The only company I’m still willing to pre-order from now is Kojima Productions.

          • snakesandfrogs

            I’m still hoping somehow they can come back to us here in reality but they’re just too lost in the SJW bs.

      • snakesandfrogs

        I’d hardly call that an ideology, more like asininity.

    • Ebalosus

      >Only got better with ME2

      Where did I put my Smudboy videos again…

  • Gozu Tennoh

    I’d love to give everyone at bioware a proper gut punch for ruining one of my favourite franchises. Twats.

  • wtf

    Did any body test play this before release?

    • SevTheBear

      Nope. Many rumors has it that Bioware management did see a reason to do so even after the main Bioware team told them it need more fixing.

    • Sure… but they were either drunk, high, or watching an Amy Schumer special.

  • Disqusted

    What is this, an attempt to paint themselves as a poor hapless victim? If they really are that ignorant and stupid, they deserve to feel way more than just a gut punch.

    If they cared about the “broad spectrum” of their fans, they should have paid attention to reality beforehand, instead of pandering only to SJWs.

    • MONAD

      Or hiring out and known racists because “MUH DIVERSITY”.

    • Art

      And they didn’t even do that correctly.

  • giygas

    Did someone say Bioware forum?

  • Hawk Hopper
    • EroBotan

      the girl on that 8 bit title is pretty! unlike the girls in ME: Andromeda. Where is she come from?

      • Hawk Hopper

        It’s from Freedom Force on the NES

        • EroBotan

          cool! thanks !

  • Christopher Yost

    He would only be “gut-punched” because he’s incompetent. He either didn’t know the state of his own product or didn’t think anything was wrong with it.

    I could have forced my way past the incompetent (the word fits most of the game) animations ‘n such but the sophomoric writing and juvenile story makeup have killed the game for me.

    • Version_8

      You nailed it buddy!

    • John

      “I think I really pissed that one off. Maybe because I shot him in the face.”

    • Otto Hansen

      Oh man, the drama is way over blown. Do you guys act this emotionally vapid in real life?

      • Nishi Hundan

        What do you expect from a bunch of fat losers who have never seen a human vagina in real life?

        • Is the reverse true for all those SJWs who literally cried when Trump got voted in as President of the United States? They’ve never seen dick in real life?

          • DetekTerk

            The anti PC community is becoming cancerous too though. Seeing PC agendas everywhere.

          • Can you really blame them, though? SJWs have co-opted so many mediums and hobbies and turned them into complete and utter shite. For years people just said “ignore them, they’ll go away” and they didn’t!

            They got stronger and more brazen and ruined more stuff. Look at the state that Marvel is in, look at video games (heck you’re commenting on an article about a company who went full SJW and crapped on one of their most lucrative properties), look at movies, look at television. Did you really think people wouldn’t eventually blow their caskets after years of having this stuff shoved down their throats and seeing all their favorite pastimes co-opted with this nonsense?

          • DetekTerk

            How is it REALLY an issue if a dev wants to include diversity or some PC things though? What defines it as being PC in the first place? Because an agenda exists? Everything is done with an agenda. You could develop a game with a badass female protagonist simply because you want said badass female protagonist in the game and people such as yourself would lose their minds complaining about “HUUURR FEMINIST PROPAGANDA” which is really frustrating because in your and the anti -PC community’s eyes, a well written character is mutually exclusive with a PC character. And yes I can definitely blame them. They are becoming ridiculous now. We are getting to the point that if something doesn’t feature an all male, all white cast, there’s an inherent PC agenda. But that’s my point though, what’s truly BAD about a PC agenda because you really have to ask yourself what defines the PC agenda. If Bioware wants a diverse cast of characters, why should we care? If they want some LGBT representation, why should we care?

            There’s also another issue now with SJWs and how the term has become diluted and essentially homogenized. People are forgetting that even those annoying SJWs are still people but everyone who gives off a shred of SJW ideology are homogenized with the stereoypical weird hair coloured college student. I know some people who “SJW” type people but they are still overall great people. The reality is, even though there’s some SJW on youtube speaking about being non binary gender fluid, flux blah blah blah, you still went on with your life, nothing happened to you. People are blowing everything out of proportion, everyone’s getting triggered and nobody thinks rationally anymore. It’s simply US THEM US THEM US THEM US THEM US THEM.

          • Rekin

            In recent history strong female protags we have 2B (Nier: Automata), Bayonetta, Laura Croft (when she remembers she can shoot things), Aloy (when she isn’t being praised as literal jesus), and the cast of Overwatch, etc. So gamers do not have a problem with female protags. The problem lies in absolutely mindless drivel spewed into our faces about the character in a very skin level only way. Examples include that one random npc who deadnames you immediately. The new Laura Croft who can’t tell if she is strong or weak. and the list goes on.

            How about this as a line of argument instead. Rather then have devs do mary/gary sue inserts they should instead make a compelling story. Lets use Drakengard 3. What kind of person would live a life of revenge and slaughter? What would compel them to do so? Is there any sort of redemption for such an individual? These are addressed by what we see of Zero’s life and death in the game.

            Again maybe the problem lies in that people are talking past each other. Gamers want great games. Is it an RPG? Is the story and characters good or at least acceptable? Devs should consider their basics first before they throw in the bells and whistles.

            A polished turd is still a turd.

          • DetekTerk

            I’m not referring to gamers in general. I’m referring to people who are so anti-PC to the point that they act like how triggered SJWs do.

          • What defines it as being PC in the first place?

            When it’s shoving ideological bullcrap down your throat and it breaks the lore of the established universe and breaks immersion.

            . You could develop a game with a badass female protagonist simply because you want said badass female protagonist in the game and people such as yourself would lose their minds complaining about “HUUURR FEMINIST PROPAGANDA”

            WTF are you talking about and how the f**k are you gonna label me as a person losing their mind when I’ve defended, promoted and played more games with female characters than you’ve ever experienced in your entire piss-poor life, you worthless maggot? You probably never even heard of Bombshell, and you’ll have to go google it up to get any info. We were one of the few sites consistently covering the game, starring a “hurrr durr” badass female character.

            You’re a moron you know that?

            We are getting to the point that if something doesn’t feature an all male, all white cast, there’s an inherent PC agenda.

            F**k people like you dude, seriously. Where are people saying this other than on /pol/? See, it’s people like you making this us vs them mentality make moderates like me pissed off. Like the other person noted, most gamers wanted well written stories with compelling characters. People like YOU start labeling everyone who doesn’t jump onto the SJW bandwagon; and when you start wide-sweeping and blanketing everyone under a label of being anti-diverse/sexist/etc., all you do is piss us off.

            So congratulations on being another catalyst in making moderates hate SJWs.

          • Jack Thompson

            >piss-poor life you worthless maggot?
            Woah there Billy. They may be retarded or just dishonestly pushing an agenda, but you’re getting a little buttflustered here. Don’t go full Navy Seal copypasta.

          • They may be retarded or just dishonestly pushing an agenda, but you’re getting a little buttflustered here. Don’t go full Navy Seal copypasta.

            This is true. You’re right. I let the SJW pimp-slap me the wrong way around. It’s a good thing I’ve got cream for being buttflustered, though.

            http://i.imgur.com/qUxSFy6.png

          • DetekTerk

            Yep, now I’m a SJW XD

          • DetekTerk

            “When it’s shoving ideological bullcrap down your throat and it breaks the lore of the established universe and breaks immersion.”

            Give me an example. MEA is considered SJW like due to the game featuring diversity. How is diversity necessarily a bad thing? Why is it that whenever devs want to include the PC stuff, it’s inherently considered bad?

            “WTF are you talking about and how the f**k are you gonna label me as a person losing their mind when I’ve defended, promoted and played more games with female characters than you’ve ever experienced in your entire piss-poor life, you worthless maggot? You probably never even heard of Bombshell, and you’ll have to go google it up to get any info. We were one of the few sites consistently covering the game, starring a “hurrr durr” badass female character.

            You’re a moron you know that?”

            Easy there, keep your panties on. You clearly misunderstood my point. The point I was making was that you can be a bit “PC” but still have great characters. Sure I made an assumption but no need to act like a triggered child.

            “F**k people like you dude, seriously. Where are people saying this other than on /pol/? See, it’s people like you making this us vs them mentality make moderates like me pissed off. Like the other person noted, most gamers wanted well written stories with compelling characters. People like YOU start labeling everyone who doesn’t jump onto the SJW bandwagon; and when you start wide-sweeping and blanketing everyone under a label of being anti-diverse/sexist/etc., all you do is piss us off.

            So congratulations on being another catalyst in making moderates hate SJWs.”

            That’s called a bit of hyperbole no need to take it so literal. I’m labeling people because they exist. If you think that the anti PC community isn’t becoming extreme, then you are quite daft and naive. I myself am anti-PC but I am also anti anti-PC extremism.

          • How is diversity necessarily a bad thing? Why is it that whenever devs want to include the PC stuff, it’s inherently considered bad?

            Because it’s preaching down to people. You know how they strip away agency whenever someone addresses a trans character in a game and not allow players to be mean to them when the topic comes up? It’s quite the opposite of when someone says something racist/sexist and players usually get the option to belittle them, talk down to them, or even get physical, like in pretty much all the other Mass Effect games.

            When you strip the choice away from people you’re telling them “This is your only option and this is the right option”. A lot of games do that, though, like in Spec Ops… the whole “War is hell” motif was fine and all except for the fact you didn’t get a choice to NOT be a complete murdering, psychopathic douche bag. So they were preaching down to you while stripping away your agency.

            The point I was making was that you can be a bit “PC” but still have great characters. Sure I made an assumption but no need to act like a triggered child.

            Except we’re not seeing great characters. They’re almost all one-dimensional cutouts with some of the most lazy and trite writing found on fan-fic blogs.

            That’s called a bit of hyperbole no need to take it so literal. I’m labeling people because they exist.

            Sure, but the most those people do is whine and complain online in comment sections or social media. Unlike SJWs, who literally run to the U.N., to try to get games/anime banned, or when they complain to retailers to literally get games pulled from store shelves, or when they complained to Valve to bar Hatred from being sold (thank goodness Gabe Newell is a sh*tlord, or else the mediocre Hatred would have been doomed), or how they infest localization teams and censor the crap out of a bunch of Asian games (like Fire Emblem or Blade & Soul, or that travesty Tokyo Mirage Sessions).

            I myself am anti-PC but I am also anti anti-PC extremism.

            So you’re not a racist, sexist, misogynistic, transphobic, douchebag? Okay, cool… that just makes you part of the majority.

          • DetekTerk

            I can kind of understand what you mean but I disagree. The previous Mass Effect games had a diverse cast and the best thing about those games were the memorable characters. A gay man was included in Witcher 3 too and that didn’t detract from the overall quality of writing either. What you are describing is more of a shoddy form of implementation if anything. Including diverse characters by itself is not an issue at all. As for spec ops, the purpose of that game was that you become a monster, it was always meant to be a linear game with a set narrative. Really flawed point there.

            Nah when you start seeing comments such as people saying Andromeda has a hidden message of white men becoming subservient to black men based on a simple shoulder bump and said comments get hundreds of upvotes, it makes you think. When you see people scream “feminist propaganda” everywhere simply because a game features a female protagonist, it becomes rather stupid too. The point is, both SJWs and anti SJWs are equally cancerous and nauseating now.

          • As for spec ops, the purpose of that game was that you become a monster, it was always meant to be a linear game with a set narrative. Really flawed point there.

            Well they did a piss poor job in conveying that given that everyone came across as deplorable and deserved to die, and not because they had to, but because they made stupid, idiotic choices that just didn’t make sense.

            When you see people scream “feminist propaganda” everywhere simply because a game features a female protagonist, it becomes rather stupid too. The point is, both SJWs and anti SJWs are equally cancerous and nauseating now.

            People only became anti-SJW and started screaming because SJWs just wouldn’t shut the f**k up.

            There’s a thousand and one games out there with female protags that none of those pubic stains bother buying because they would rather sit online and virtue signal than support content creators. Instead, they advocate to REMOVE characters, stories and content from games aimed at the male demographic just so they can feel good about their virtue signaling. None of them support the Kickstarters featuring female/LGBTQI/minority protags, but they’ll sit around and complain about not enough of them being in games they don’t play.

            Like the game Escape from Pleasure Planet? How many of those a-holes contributed to that Kickstarter? How many of them virtue signaled and praised the game for starring gay characters? Oh… you’ve never heard of it? Of course not, because the media wouldn’t even report on it.

            “Diversity” already exists, but the people clamoring for it doesn’t support it in the media they want to co-opt.

            They have no sincere intentions of supporting diversity, their main goal is simply to subvert media aimed at demographics who want certain kinds of content out of their games. And since diverse games don’t sell as much as mainstream stuff, what do they do? Subvert it.

          • snakesandfrogs

            AMEN!!! PREACH IT!!!

          • Webz Cruiser

            Let me throw your original comment right back at you
            “Oh man, the drama is way over blown. Do you act this emotionally vapid in real life?”
            You’re very emotionally vapid right now

          • DetekTerk

            The whole “you’re too emotional” point is overused and just a lazy way of not responding to the argument at hand. Sure I could have worded my point better but the point still stands.

      • Mike

        You mean over a product people paid $60 to $80 for? Yeah, if I buy a product and it is faulty, I do complain. Because by LAW it is my right and the company is at fault.

        But I don’t know, maybe your mummy and daddy buy your games so you don’t know the value of money or understand your right as a customer.

        • Elilla Shadowheart

          I paid $45 brand new for it. That’s my limit price on new games. But hey, if you’re one of those mentally slow folks who don’t know they don’t have to buy directly from steam/origin/uplay/etc. That’s your own problem.

    • ThTom

      Watching armchair developers characterising professionals as incompetent. Priceless…

      • Watching peeved consumers after having spent $60 on a product that could barely deliver in quality what was achieved back in 2007 while characterising professionals as incompetent. Priceless… [and deserved]

        Fixed that for you, ace.

        • Elilla Shadowheart

          Yeah, there’s a lot of things wrong with ME:A, lot of things right. The open terrain/jump jet/stuff they got pretty spot on. The combat was faster, but more forgiving if you play sniper builds compared to ME-ME3. The story had a lot of problems, the jammed in social justice crap I could ignore. Facial animations, shit rigging, and so on? How that passed the internal review I have no idea. People would have been fired when I was in the industry ~15 years ago for it. This is most likely due to the infection of SJWs though, and with luck the flappy heads at EA will put their foot down.

          If they hadn’t farmed out things like story board to lower tier people at Bioware Montreal, this would likely have been a great title. As it stands it’s only a good title if you can get past some of the stuff in it. The ME universe was always cheesy though.

          • When you look at sci-fi works like that upcoming Luc Besson flick, Valerian or whatever it’s called, you see how much potential sci-fi has… you see how far they can go.

            ME: Andromeda was not only lacking on the technical side (though as you mentioned, the environments looked fantastic, the combat was smooth, and the shooting was fairly spot on), but it had no vision or innovation as far as the story was concerned. They journeyed into an all new galaxy just to meet more humanoid aliens with Halo-style Forerunner architecture governing life in the galaxy. It was the most derivative story in decades and was actually less creative than the last three Mass Effect games.

            I don’t know if EA will put their foot down or not… if the game sold gangbusters then they won’t care. If the game sold poorly then they’ll just gut BioWare and recycle another property to turn a quick buck.

          • Phasmatis75

            In an AMA an marketing anon said EA plans to shut Bioware down after Andromeda. Sales were abysmal for the 4 year development cycle, so once DLC is done they’re gone.

          • MosesZD

            Problem is that it’s a CRPG, not a shooter. And the story is utter crap from the beginning to the end. The side quests are worse. And the open world is really more ‘big rooms’ than actually being open. So, whoopee the ****ing jumping and combat.

          • Elilla Shadowheart

            Yeah, it’s not a CRPG never has been. That you think it is, shows that you have no actual understanding of what a CRPG is. It’s an action game with RPG elements, just like all the previous games. You seem to be more upset that you don’t understand that then anything else.

        • Johnny

          No, ThTom is correct. A few things wrong with the game yes. But rarely does an open world game launch go smoothly. And now we have trolls and whiny little kids who probably didn’t spend their own money trying to throw in their worthless pesos.

          Well, fuck you and your feelings. You’re not even trying to compare the games or you would realize that all of the previous games were choc full of bugs too. But that didn’t stop you from enjoying them. This time you had a hive mind cuck fest and everybody started whining about shit before the first patch came out.

          Anybody remember getting stuck ontop of corners in Me2 and 3? Oh yeah! Remember characters bugging out during cut scenes? YEP! If you walked into a wall you would end up doing some weird ass slow motion moon walk. Stand in front of a keeper while it’s walking and it just moves you out of the way like you have no friction under your feet. You know what, here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2k_rr2tOBs have being retards talking about crap you know nothing about and pretend past games were any better with bugs and glitches. Story is fine btw. And if you you’re so critical of the games GO MAKE A BETTER GAME.

          • have being retards talking about crap you know nothing about and pretend past games were any better with bugs and glitches.

            Really? Dude, really? Who is pretending the past games weren’t broken or glitchy? Of course they were. ME1 was a mess when it came to load times, some graphical glitches, lip-synching issues, getting stuck in walls, and a bunch of other stuff. But you know what? A lot of people were forgiving because

            1) No other game out back then was anything remotely like Mass Effect.
            2) BioWare really was pushing the industry and the interactive storytelling genre forward.
            3) They were running on the crappy version of the Unreal Engine 3, which was unoptimized as crap.
            4) There were a lot of technical hurdles they had to overcome due to the hardware.

            Everything I listed above was not an issue for Mass Effect Andromeda since…

            1) Frostbite 3 was already pre-built and has full support from DICE’s Swedish team.
            2) All the animation, lighting, and graphical pipelines were designed and finished before they even began work on Andromeda.
            3) Nothing in Andromeda pushes the industry or the genre forward at all. And there are indie games out there more ambitious than Andromeda (like Dual Universe or Planet Nomads).

            If you like regression, then enjoy Andromeda.

          • Johnny

            So wtf is your point in complaining now!? Explain the “regression” You’re claiming to be instead of just stating that it is. You know what I see? Hypocrisy, oxy-moron.

            And don’t ever try to pass off some early access crap as a game that does more…

          • So wtf is your point in complaining now!?

            Because 10 years later and they didn’t move the industry forward! They regressed!!!

            Explain the “regression” You’re claiming to be instead of just stating that it is.

            Lack of multi-pass lighting on the characters during dialogue sequences. Broken lip-synching (and even after the patch it’s still worse than games like Horizon Zero Dawn and Witcher 3, and only barely improved over Mass Effect 1), and piss-poor animation blending just to name a few.

            Heck, they didn’t even take advantage of the Frostbite to make use of the embedded support for Geomerics’ lighting to give characters dynamic PBR.

            http://i.imgur.com/nznhT2J.jpg

            That’s freaking disgusting.

            10 years later and they couldn’t even utilize physically based rendering that’s already built into the engine?

            Disgusting.

            That’s what I mean by regressive gameplay design.

            If I saw that as the final render I would have fired the lighting engineers on the spot.

          • MosesZD

            No, you’re just an apologist. It’s a CRPG with a BAD, CLICHE, AND GENERIC STORY. I cringe at the dialogue and the premise. This is kind of garbage no-talent hacks put into games.

            I thought the story in DA:I was lame. This is worse. Far worse. While DA:I’s story was scattered and, ultimately, your choices didn’t matter and you going to win no matter how lame you were as a player as Corypheus was the lamest boss ever (bad at fighting and a complete idiot who did everything wrong)…

            This game is so bad I’ll never get to the end.

            As for broken and buggy games. No **** Sherlock. There are still bugs in NWN, DA:O, DA2, SWTOR, ME1, ME2 and ME3 they’ve never fixed. I’m not complaining about the bugs.

            I’m complaining about a story that is so bad that the there is no fix for it. It makes the original Red:Blue:Green ME3 ending look Bloody F***ing Brilliant.

    • snakesandfrogs

      Sad but true. I honestly feel cheated after I read on Twitter nearly 5 years ago they were working on another Mass Effect title and waiting all that time.