Star Wars: Battlefront 2’s Campaign Could Feature An SJW Storyline
Star Wars Battlefront 2 Iden Versio
(Last Updated On: May 13, 2017)

The Inferno Squad, the group of elite special forces units that players will command in the campaign mode of Star Wars: Battlefront II, have received a bit more details about their presence in the upcoming sequel to DICE’s 2015 outing.

Over on the official EA website they have a brief explanation of what role the Inferno Squad actually plays in the fighting effort the Galactic Empire poses against the Rebel Alliance.

According to the post, Inferno Squad, led by Iden Versio, are both expert fighter pilots and expert ground fighters.

The post explains…

“Inferno Squad is an Imperial special-ops team, trained as both deadly starfighter pilots and elite commandos. Deeply committed to the rule of law, Inferno Squad is an Imperial shield against the chaotic threat represented by the Rebel Alliance. Fearless in the face of sedition, they strike unseen and then fade back into the darkness of deep space.”

For those wondering whether or not this would mean Iden will be tangling in the dirt with the Rebels in the gritty reality of ground warfare, it definitely means Iden will be dancing the tango of war with the Rebels in the gritty reality of ground warfare.

However, the post also notes that Iden will also be mixing it up in space, just as the description of the Inferno Squad implies.

Apparently the team of elite Imperial troopers will make their way across the hot spots of the galaxy using the Imperial Raider Corvus as a special vessel to carry out their activities. I can only assume players will have access to Tie Fighters and other spacecraft from the Imperial fleet in which to take on Rebels during the space battle portions of the campaign.

We also already know that the Inferno Squad (or at least Iden) gets betrayed, and we also already know (through EA’s uncanny ability to unravel the plot for us through blog posts) that the Inferno Squad (or at least Iden) will gain “redemption” through their efforts to bring justice to the galaxy. So it’s a pretty safe bet she joins the Rebel Alliance (especially considering that they also confirmed that you will play as Luke Skywalker at some point in the campaign, and Iden clearly meets Luke in the reveal trailer).

Of course, some people are a-okay with the story that Motive plans to tell for DICE’s Star Wars: Battlefront II. Others feel as if they can already smell the Social Justice Warrior bullspit a galaxy away.

YouTuber ItsAGundam laid out a pretty convincing argument why you can expect Iden to be another “Strong independent woman” trope who “doesn’t need no man”.

Yes, a member of the GameJournoPros had a hefty hand (and according to Walt Williams, even more so than that) in crafting the narrative for Star Wars: Battlefront II.

Mitch Dyer is a full blown Social Justice Warrior and a strong advocate of Anita Sarkeesian’s brand of third-wave, sex-negative feminism. She’s also his “hero”.

Walt Williams, the co-writer of Star Wars: Battlefront II’s campaign mode also spent a good amount of time doting on his writing accomplice, posting a number of congratulatory tweets about what they achieved with the game’s story.

Williams went on to write…

“[Mitch’s] talent & passion made our story soar. Not lying when I say @MitchyD is more than the best co-writer ever; he’s also one of my best buds. But, it would just be words if it weren’t for the amazing @Janina bringing Iden Versio to life. Phenomenal doesn’t even begin to describe it.

 

“Gah! I want to gush over @MitchyD & @Janina all day, but I’m afraid I’d say too much. This whole experience has been great for us. We can’t wait for you to join us.”

The recent post about the story in Battlefront II seems to point to Inferno Squad being the most badass of the badass elite within the Empire’s forces. While some people were willing to give the story the benefit of the doubt, it really does seem to be the makings of the exact same kind of archetype that we’ve seen recently from the SJW crowd when it comes to how they craft their female characters in media, oftentimes overcompensating them by making either flawless like in Horizon: Zero Dawn, Star Wars: The Force Awakens or Battlefield 1, or a female who imitates male behavior better than a male does.

It’s completely possible that we’ll get a sound explanation of how someone like Iden Versio rose through the ranks of the Empire – despite the fact that they’ve oftentimes been portrayed as being rather bigoted and sexist – to become the leader of their most feared unit in the galaxy (and did so without being Force sensitive, cybernetically enhanced, or physically or genetically gifted in some way)… or it’s possible she’ll end up being another Mary Sue.

”Vice

So far the trailers and information have provided zero insight into this precarious plot point, where most people who have followed the Star Wars lore felt the turn of event was somewhat out of place for the Empire. Especially when some of the only few female commanders in their ranks had to fight tooth and nail to acquire their positions, such as Natasi Daala. Under Disney’s regime, however, they’ve recently broaden Empire’s horizons in the Star Wars lore, adding other female naval commanders to the Imperial fleet, such as Rae Sloan.

There have been plenty of female heroes (Jedi, alien, enhanced or otherwise) on the Rebel’s side, but very few have been notably standout on the Empire’s side.

Of course, it’s completely possible that there’s a sound unfolding of how this all plays out, and a potentially reasonable explanation as to why the Empire has started cultivating a more “diverse” atmosphere.

However, doubts fester over the possibility of the story being SJW infested given that one half of the writing team clearly made his allegiance known to third-wave feminist ideals, and the description of the plot so far conveniently ignores how Iden came into power over Inferno Squad; there’s definitely going to be some much needed narrative exposition to clarify this development. That’s not to mention that EA’s other sci-fi fanfare, Mass Effect: Andromeda from BioWare, was riddled from top to bottom with SJW propaganda.

It shouldn’t have to be said, but most people wouldn’t mind a female lead in a typically male-dominated role if she’s well written and properly characterized, otherwise it becomes distracting to the story. It would be the equivalent of having Sylvester Stallone in a romantic comedy. Sure it could happen, but most women would be wondering why Chris Pine, Chris Pratt or Chris Hemsworth weren’t cast in the leading male role, and most guys would be confused as to why Stallone would trade in the M60 and the shiny muscles for a romantic montage set to the latest track from Taylor Swift.


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  • Paradox Reign

    Welp, it is an EA game, so no wonder. This will be a shitshow once it comes out and people will fight each other. I really wish that this tanks so hard that EA loses so much money, but then I remember that people are as dumb as sheeps and they will swallow this shit like it is chocolate because of blind fanboysm.

    One day…!

  • …only with it’s poorly written virtual signalling.

  • Alistair

    I had a feeling this be the outcome it all started Disney side company withdrew from Pewdiepie because of anti-Semitic.

    So Disney being into kiddies entertainment didn’t like what it seems but here the thing “Didnt you know that disney got a wicked evil side to them”. It may be real or a photoshop Attempt.

    Because they use hidden sexual themes took away in those kiddies cartoons brink and you miss them. lol.

  • SevTheBear

    Yeah I don’t hold my breath. Mitch Dyer was in one of Anitas garbage videos + is a fan of Anita as well. There is not much hope. I hope to be proven wrong but I doubt it

  • SJWCuckBetaBabies

    These comments suck and reek of insecurity

    • The only people who say that are people too insecure and unintelligent to formulate arguments explaining why the comments suck.

      • Eli

        Yep. It’s called projection.

  • Steampunk Sweetheart

    Well, Daala is mercifully no longer canon and was a twit anyway. My problem with the new material is not that there are female Imperials, but that so far the only one who doesn’t seem destined to either defect or be a complete Mary Sue (*cough*Sloane*cough*) is Pryce, and she’s..well, a visual ripoff of Irina Spalko and kind of useless. She’s basically Daala 2.0, minus the sleeping her way to the top. All I ask is a female Imperial who does not need to defect to prove something, genuinely believes in order, and is good at her job because she’s good at her job, not because RAWR SMASH THE PATRIARCHY. Thrawn ought to demonstrate that you can have a ruthless character working for the Empire who is NEVER going to be a Rebel who isn’t a cartoon-level villain and who has genuinely decent and complex motivations. So far the female Imperials (and Jyn, who’s basically a cardboard prop) are written like “but they’re girls” is all you need to make a compelling original character (with a bonus FU and middle finger to female Imperial fans.)

    • All I ask is a female Imperial who does not need to defect to prove something, genuinely believes in order, and is good at her job because she’s good at her job, not because RAWR SMASH THE PATRIARCHY.

      This.

      Vader’s Fist proved that they can have compelling stories about the Empire that’s satiated in the lore without feeling forced or breaking continuity.

      As mentioned, though, it’s possible it’s not as bad as it looks on the outset. Given who’s involved and EA’s current track record, I don’t hold out much hope… but we’ll see.

    • korblborp

      With his creepy undertaker vibe and overbearing organ music every time he’s on screen, I can’t take Rebels’ version of Thrawn seriously.

  • AlecJ

    Anita Sarkeesian is merely a lazy con artist at this point. She rolled one video series into a faux career and has memorized just enough buzz words to make fools like Mitch Dyer swoon.

    Only someone with the world view of a blind goldfish would think announcing your worship of Anita Sarkeesian makes you look wise, or more importantly to the church of third wave feminism, compassionate.

    The whole story makes me sick. If they screw up this game with radical progressive political garbage, i will never forgive anyone involved.

    Ive never got the impression that the woman starring in the game was a leftist nut. She is probably left of center, sure, but not the typical snowflake. Her storyline on “The League” was about as far from politically correct as it gets, and she seemed to relish the part.

    Im keeping every finger crossed…..

    • GodBowser

      I was thinking if this guy kept quiet about witch side he lean towards maybe no one would have suspected that there would be any SJW propaganda in the game

    • Ive never got the impression that the woman starring in the game was a leftist nut. She is probably left of center, sure, but not the typical snowflake. Her storyline on “The League” was about as far from politically correct as it gets, and she seemed to relish the part.

      A lot of people working on the game may not be part of the SocJus cult, but it doesn’t mean they’re not going to play their part in carrying out the orders. Like, Neil Druckmann is a full blown SJW, but it doesn’t mean everyone else working at Naughty Dog or part of their production are SJWs, too.

      As for Battlefront… I have no idea if Walt kept Mitch in line, or if they went Full McIntosh. The way Walt gloats over Mitch gives the impression that there may have been more influence from Mitch than there was from Walt, but I don’t know.

      We’ll likely get a decent gauge come EA Play at E3 this year.

  • durka durka

    Dont you play as the bad guys? Hey atleast they are self aware.

  • Sadly this game will be loved by the casuals just like with feminist games like Horizon zero dawn and the last of us.

    • SevTheBear

      Last of Us wasn’t feminist heavy.

      Have played HZD 100% and I can agree that HZD has a feminist tone. They have written most men dumb and almost all women either “awesome” og pure good. It’s lazy writing and was very unnecessary. Aloy herself is not the real problem, but the rest of the cast is packed with stereo types taken right out of feminist fan fiction handbook.

      • The creator of Last of Us said it is a feminist game so it is a feminist game. It is saddening to see most of the popular games are so feminist heavy. Think goodness for Nier automata.

        • SevTheBear

          I have to disagree that *The Last of Us* is a feminist game. If having a women (or rather girl) as second lead is the same as a feminist game then I don’t think he understands what he talks about. But there is a change The Last of Us 2 could be which is just sad :/

          Nier Automata, Bayonetta and many other games from japan with strong female leads are made without (at least the games I know of) ham-fisted Western feminist BS. So yeah long live Japan https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ad0e11af2bf0f81659ac00eec8606708fdb8023f940ccebf06657531da7b9d38.jpg

  • duder

    you obviously have not seen Oscar

    • …uh it wasn’t a romance flick.

  • Kiryu

    Mitch Dyer sounds like a giant cuck and desperate to get into Sarkeesian’s pants.

    • GodBowser

      I wonder if she might have some cobwebs in her pants

  • Vrenna

    Female characters created through a feminist lens aren’t appealing, and are borderline inhuman. The campaign might not become a shitshow, but the protagonist will most likely be trash.

  • Bryan Young

    As an SJW myself, I don’t see an issue.

    • GodBowser

      Maybe you don’t see an issue because you might have spent too much time in the old echo chamber and it’s made you lose touch with reality

      • Bryan Young

        Or, I watched Star Wars a bunch, which is inherently entrenched in the cause of social justice.

        • GodBowser

          If you say so cuck

          • Wisdomcube2000

            I was going to say insulting him is not needed, but then I saw he was upvoting his own comments. Carry on.

          • GodBowser

            Since he’s been upvoting his own comments then he must be more of a loser cuck then I thought

        • Mr.Towel

          Oh yeah, Monomyth is certainly entrenched with social justice…

          Oh wait.

    • MusouTensei

      Perish.

    • Alistair

      One word of advice, coming from a suppose sexists, anti censorship, anti “regression” Bullshit.

      I would be ashame to be know as one and i would not certain to say i am one.

      Looking from my past comments i failed hard to be one.

      • Bryan Young

        I have no idea what you’re trying to say.

        • GodBowser

          Not upvoting yourself this time cuck and I guess being in the echo chamber too long might make you stupid as well and if you want to see a good example of SJW stupidity just look at psycho tranny Brianna Wu

          Do you think Anita might be fuckable if she puts a bag over her head?

          • Bryan Young

            You managed to wrap misandry, misogyny, rape culture, transphobia, regressive bigotry and generally being a dumbass, jerk, and moron all into one comment.

            That’s pretty impressive.

          • GodBowser

            Why thank you Mr Insecure Special Snow Flake

            Do you think that Zoe Quinn might have every STD under the sun with all the bed hopping she does and will she have to sleep with anyone to get good reviews for her new book

    • I think for most people who value the continuity of lore, they might see an issue if it doesn’t hold up to the quality standards that they’ve come to expect from the property.

      But to each his own.

      • Bryan Young

        For most of us who respect and love the lore of Star Wars, I think this raises the bar on it.

        But to each their own.

        • GodBowser

          Not bloody likely

          You libtards have no respect for any sort of original lore and you just want to inject your fucked up ideology into it just to suit you and the actual fans don’t want that but I guess your too far up your own ass to realize

          It does not raise the bar it lowers it

          • Bryan Young

            Ah, the “real fan” canard. I’ll add that to the list of things wrong with you.

          • GodBowser

            Would one of them be that I see you cucks like as not being very bright and too easy to manipulate

            Do you really think that you have a chance of getting into some feminazis pants if you white knight for her?

        • For most of us who respect and love the lore of Star Wars, I think this raises the bar on it.

          How?

          • Bryan Young

            Well, Ysanne Isard was a great female Imperial and we need more in her mold. Natasi Daala was a cartoon and not a very great character, but had potential. And as we realize our hyper-male-centric storytelling was damaging and causing toxic masculinity issues, an inherently progressive property like Star Wars (as it has been since day one) SHOULD take steps to modernize itself where it can. The canon is an open canvas and this sort of storytelling makes me happy, knowing that other people will get to see themselves as well-represented in Star Wars as I’ve been. Star Wars being more inclusive gives me more people to talk to about it and more people to learn its lessons and, hopefully, make the world a better place in the process.

          • korblborp

            Inherently progressive? I don’t know about that, I think that belongs more to the OTHER big SciFi franchise with “star” in the title.

            The Empire has long been shown to be forcefully oppressive, bigoted in favor of humans, and chauvanistic. These are some of the reasons why it’s BAD. Notable women and aliens in the heirarchy are shown to be exceptions, for pragmatic reasons (Thrawn and Isaard) or otherwise (Daala), especially pre-ROTJ. Rising levels of such post-ROTJ indicated change in the Remnant. Disney seems to be in the habit of sofening the Empire.

            Note that I do not reject a female lead character in this position.

          • Bryan Young

            Yes, Star Wars is inherently progressive. Here’s a piece in Newsweek about it. http://www.newsweek.com/does-star-wars-endorse-political-republican-democrat-498365

          • GodBowser

            When you speak of inclusivity does that also include people that might have a differing opinion to you?

            What about the ones that disagree with modern feminism because of how toxic it is?

            Will they one day represent me by having a stereotypical gay guy in the franchise?

          • Well, Ysanne Isard was a great female Imperial and we need more in her mold

            Based on what?

            And as we realize our hyper-male-centric storytelling was damaging and causing toxic masculinity issues,

            For whom? Do you have a statistic for this? Any longitudinal studies? (Just asking because around these parts we oftentimes rely on actual studies, stats and data reports instead of anecdotal evidence)

            an inherently progressive property like Star Wars (as it has been since day one) SHOULD take steps to modernize itself where it can.

            Modernize itself in what way, though? Based on whose ideological preference for modernity?

            The canon is an open canvas and this sort of storytelling makes me happy

            Same here.

            knowing that other people will get to see themselves as well-represented in Star Wars as I’ve been.

            Who in Star Wars represents you? For me, I don’t care about representation but the quality of the story and characterization. Additionally, what does representation have to do with continuity and the integrity of narrative consistency?

            Star Wars being more inclusive gives me more people to talk to about it and more people to learn its lessons

            This is another blanket statement taking on the supposition that by adapting the story in a way that appeases you, more people will prefer it. Do you have any stats to back this position up?

  • SJW feminist protagonist with likely SJW feminist storyline.

    Didn’t see that coming whatsoever.

    • Disqusted

      Meanwhile, the mainstream always ignores good female characters that aren’t written by SJWs. Or they find a non-issue to bully them.

  • LurkerJK

    I cannot imagine a Disney Star Wars story without swjism and a mary sue protagonist, i am half expecting the Han Solo movie to somehow have a female protagonist

  • Jackson Scott

    I’m so glad literally everything star wars has a female lead now. Cough not. I’m not sexist but Disney has just ruined the franchise with this SJW junk. Not to mention how the squad is called inferno squad, are you kidding me? What are we five years old.

    • Disqusted

      You know their female leads are shit when someone like me who has wanted female leads for decades has zero interest in all their forced trash. I’ll stick to Japanese stuff, thanks. They respect/appreciate women and feminity enough to have female leads without turning them into men.

      • Alistair

        You can strong sexy female characters.

        [You can have embarrassing moments of sexy female].

        But put a “Weak” sexy female characters See above they got a issue with it eg ecchi games.

        I found it embarrassing of them, thank god i never met one in person.

        • Uncle Joey

          Would’ve kicked that cunt out after two minutes tops.

    • Bitterbear

      Sadly, that’s their target audience. The lil’ tykes will screech loud enough, long enough for their parents to fork that delicious money for the licensed merchandise. The mouse is all about profits, and sanitizing the franchise into oblivion for the sake of the quarterly profit reports is the priority.

    • I think I mentioned this before, but all the other squad names weren’t much better. The 501st: Vader’s Fist, and the Death Troopers are fairly cheesy as well. Is Inferno Squad really that much worse?

  • Luke Cypert

    I’m so confused by what’s going on in this comments section. Since when does a female lead mean a story is propaganda? Last I checked, a little over half the population was female, so you’d expect about half of stories to feature female leads.

    As for the question of this article, “how did Iden get this position?” Well you answered that yourself, “…the only few female commanders in their ranks had to fight tooth and nail to acquire their positions…”

    We definitely do not need a back story.

    Don’t mistake me, I think feminism is the epitome of stupidity, but you people are certainly in contention for that prize.

    • Disqusted

      Q. Since when does a female lead mean a story is propaganda?
      A. When it’s written by SJWs who worship SJWs.

      If you’re upset that people are displeased about poor depictions of female heroes (who are almost always little more than men with vaginas) being shoehorned into games, blame the SJWs who are doing such a terrible job of it.

      Also, half the population being male or female has nothing to do with leads. If there’s a reason why guys tend to be leads, it’s because guys tend to have to go out of their way to do shit that nobody else wants to.

      • Luke Cypert

        You were making a reasonable argument until that last paragraph, lol

        I was going to ask why you think “character” and “male” are synonyms, but that last paragraph really derailed anything logical you could say.

        In answer to the last paragraph, you need to get out more.

        • GodBowser

          And you need to get out of your echo chamber more often

          • Luke Cypert

            Echo chamber? Aren’t I the one dissenting voice in this comments section?

          • GodBowser

            Don’t you mean the only cucked beta male white knight in this echo chamber?

          • Bryan Young

            Luke, count it as a victory any day when an idiot calls you a cuck.

          • GodBowser

            By the way I think that Anita has the ultimate rape deterrent… her face

          • Luke Cypert

            Firstly, humans don’t have alpha or beta males. And if humans did have that, we can assume everyone here is a beta male since it’s a gaming article.

            I assume white knight has something to do with feminism which would be an absurd charge considering my initial claim about feminism.

            Honestly, I’m having a difficult time understanding you since all of you use some special dialect. I honestly came to this article to try and learn what “SJW” meant because I couldn’t think of a Star Wars era with those initials.

          • GodBowser

            Anita is an ugly cow and probably doesn’t know what her vagina is for

          • Luke Cypert

            I don’t know who this Anita person is. Is she in the Battlefront campaign?

            PS Troll harder.

          • GodBowser

            Anita Sarkeesian you dumb fuck and I’m surprised you did not witch Anita I was talking about

            PS your still a beta cuck white knight and Zoe Quinn is nothing but a self serving scank

          • Luke Cypert

            If she’s so bad, why would I watch her? I guess I’ll google her…

            And apparently I need to google Zoe Quinn. Who is she, and what does she have to do with Battlefront?

          • GodBowser

            You must be a piss poor SJW if you don’t know who those hacks are

          • Luke Cypert

            And you must be a poor reader because I said modern feminism is the most stupid of all ideologies.

            I’m no “SWJ.” I’m an ultra-conservative republican.

          • GodBowser

            You was showing approval for the SJW story line so I just assumed that you was one

          • Luke Cypert

            What story line? You’ve played the game or read the script?

          • GodBowser

            Nope I just read what was in this article and what the other people in the comments have been saying

          • Luke Cypert

            Right, so when we know the real story then we can talk about if it’s “SJW” or not. And believe me, I’m extremely turned off by feminist propaganda, so I will be the first to call it out once we actually know the story. As of now, we’re judging a book by it’s characters. Which is stupid.

          • Kalim Muhammad

            Wrong, im a seriously beta male, thats why i had so much trouble getting girls for the first 20 years of my life until i learned about the alph – beta dynamic in humans.

        • Mr.Towel

          So because of one paragraph everything else is worthless?

          Man, must be hard to find a book you like.

          • Luke Cypert

            “If there’s a reason why guys tend to be leads, it’s because guys tend to have to go out of their way to do shit that nobody else wants to.”

            You were making interesting points about how making a character in a story female or black for the sake of being female or black is stupid… and I totally agree. But I amused you’d say it’s stupid to make a character a male just to be a male… but then you went off and made an absurd claim that your augment is based on. So while you were on the right track, you derailed your argument with a perfectly indefensible claim.

          • Mr.Towel

            I ain’t him.

            You’re making an assumption that his entire argument is based on his last paragrpah, which is just naive to say the least. It’s very clear his argument is not based on the points of his last paragraph.

            You could just, you know, disagree with his last paragraph, or at least try to explain why you think its beside the point or absurd, and continue to talk about all the other points.

            Instead of just being a condescending ass.

          • Luke Cypert

            Oh sorry, I was on my phone and didn’t realize who was who.

            I did say he was making good points until his argument crumbled because of the last paragraph. That’s who arguments work. It wasn’t an aside, it was the entire foundation of his points.

            I would argue that it’s stupid to make a character female or MALE just because. Male should not be the default. Female should not be the default. We should be as gender blind and we are color blind.

            I do NOT, in any way believe men and women are the same. They even have physically different brains, but they have absolutely the same human value. And in terms of narrative, there is nothing that would predispose any character to defaulting to male or female. The gender, the ethnicity, the age etc of a character should serve the narrative, not the other way around.

            This is similar to what the guy was saying but it all fell apart in his last paragraph when he revealed that he believes the default good character is male.

          • Mr.Towel

            You’re reading comments too fast, calm down. Your reading comprehension is being affected. The last paragraph starts with “also”. It pretty much implies it’s an additional point, not the principle of his previous points.

            As for your other points: a character, in its most pure and neutral form, should be as impartial as possible, truly, no standard gender, age or color.

            A character in a setting is a different beast though. if the character is too alien to its setting, it will be harder to maintain the suspension of disbelief. Not saying it’s not possible to have a total outlier characters, but if they are so, their origins and how they came to be where they are must be properly explained, and his strangeness acknowledged inside that world. Otherwise it’s just too stupid to be believable. There will be little connection between the reader’s expectations and the actual plot.

          • Kalim Muhammad

            Who builds the vast majority of the worlds buildings?
            Who maintains the sewer systems?
            Who are the main ones to fight wars?
            Who are the main ones to work in law enforcement forces?
            Who are the main ones that are firefighters?
            Who are the main ones who work on power lines?

            Men. Thats why when he said “men usually do the stuff no one else wants to do” is because they actually fucking do.

    • Since when does a female lead mean a story is propaganda?

      It doesn’t.

      a little over half the population was female, so you’d expect about half of stories to feature female leads.

      You must be very young, possibly teens?

      You cater the story and leads to appeal to the demographic. It’s called targeted marketing. You wouldn’t have Richard Simmons starring in a movie like Commando, just like you wouldn’t have Steven Seagal starring in a movie like Girl Interrupted.

      Statistically, women typically aren’t interested in military action fanfare, which is why these properties usually star men. Statistically, men aren’t typically interested in romantic dramas, which is why such properties usually star females popular with the female demographic.

      We definitely do not need a back story.

      Yes we do. Feel free to name me a couple of females who lead Delta, SAS or BOPE operations and you might have a point. But typically, regular females don’t excel to the top of those divisions. For as far as we’ve been told Iden is not a Jedi, not cybernetically enhanced, not alien, nor is she Force sensitive. So how did a regular woman physically surpass all of her male counterparts?

      That’s a necessary part of the story to address if we want to suspend disbelief.

  • Mr.Towel

    How does an unskilled and not-gifted woman rises to the top of a Galactic Empire?

    Well… if they want to be realistic…

    • Migi

      The empire has a new policy in place and it kinda works like this,

    • Disqusted

      Crowdfund a video series where you jump to conclusions and make a big deal about non-issues.

    • You’re automatically a sexist misogynist woman-hater for saying that.

      Women are perfect remember, didn’t you get the memo?

    • Roose Bolton

      You know her dad is/was an Admiral right? Maybe she’s got a Li Shang complex going and over achieves so people wouldn’t accuse them of nepotism.

  • RichardGristle

    Mitch Dyer is easily one of the biggest beta bitches in gaming. Nothing he comes remotely close to will ever see a penny from me.

  • GuyGuysonEsquire

    Classical case of “Sweden Yes”

    • Pratim Gupta

      back in the Viking Ages, the rampaging Migrants would have got a Dane Axe through their skull, once great Norseman now reduced to this, pathetic.

    • Migi

      You mean this. especially watch the end.

  • giygas

    As if the incompetence of DICE wasn’t reason enough to avoid this game.

  • Disney’s acquisition of the Star Wars license paved the way for SJWs to seize it for themselves. That’s their entire mission goal, and they’ll tell you as such: to make known franchises “less sexist, less racist, less everything we don’t like”. How that’s determined is up to them and them alone, but they won’t admit that to you because they know it sounds bad.

    At this point in time, you have to consider the franchise to be dead, thanks to their meddling. You give them an inch, they’ll take the entire track and declare the other participants to be Islamophobes.

    • mikebrand83

      Sadly, the decline of the Star Wars franchise into SJW-ish pandering long predates even its acquisition by Disney.

      If you look at comics, novels and RPG sourcebooks dating all the way back to the 80s, the Empire was portrayed as a meritocracy of sorts. Yes, it was a massive human supremacist bureaucracy that was rife with corruption and outright evil starting from the top, but it was also an organisation where competence and merit allowed for anyone (male or female) to climb its ranks.

      It was only since the EU had to retcon for the mind-numbingly incompetent antagonist that was Admiral Daala, supposedly a genius who was discriminated against due to her gender who basically had to sleep her way up the ranks (despite older SW sources showing women climbing to high ranks and command positions on their own merits, even in the very same Imperial Academy during the same time periods), that the series first noticeably played up the gender discrimination aspect.

    • GodBowser

      This will sound off topic but when Star Trek Discovery finally comes out and it turns out to be infested with SJW bullshit then I might have to give up on the franchise

      • I’m actually looking forward to that just because of Michelle Yeoh… we just don’t get enough of her. But I hope it’s not an SJW fest.

        • Bitterbear

          They paraded race, gender, and sexual orientation before anything else. Of course it’s going to be an SJW fest.

          • I haven’t been keeping up with the news. I only heard about Michelle Yeoh and was pretty excited… but if it’s an SJW fest then I’ll just have to go sit in a corner and cry.

          • Bitterbear

            First, it was that CGI trailer. Then they shouted that the lead character was a female but she is not the captain of the ship, then they paraded a gay male character.
            Oh, and the Klingons look like this:

            http://ncc-1031.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Star-Trek-Discovery-Klingons-734×470.jpg

      • GuyverOne

        ST and SW are two of my favourite franchise but I have given up on anything good coming from either any time soon if ever again..

    • You give them an inch, they’ll take the entire track

      Oh don’t worry, there’s already one or two white-knights in this comments section rushing to the defence of this with the “muh female protagonist doesn’t mean SJW” card despite the game being written and developed by SJWs who worship feminists.

    • Disqusted

      DIsney seems to be pretty involved with the SJW agenda. Doesn’t help that they have the Twitter SJW master Jack whatsisname on their board. Even more disturbing when you realize how far Jack seems to go to protect child abusers.

  • daniel_ream

    “Inferno Squad is an Imperial special-ops team, trained as both deadly starfighter pilots and elite commandos.”

    Nope, I’m out.

    Space: Above and Beyond made this same mistake. If you’re going to do military special forces, do it properly or you’re insulting our intelligence.

    • do it properly or you’re insulting our intelligence.

      This is the thing that makes me cringe. If the only people consuming the media are five year old kids, it’s fine to dumb things down because kids are stupid and don’t know any better.

      However, older people need some sort of fictional demarcations for the suspension of disbelief, and that usually requires boundaries and consistency of the fiction. Once the boundaries no longer apply (breaking lore) and the consistency gets thrown out of the window (retconning on a whim) it’s impossible to stay engaged.

      If they wanted a female lead I absolutely don’t understand why they just didn’t go the route of making a derivative story based on something like Rogue One.

      • daniel_ream

        It’s probably confirmation bias but I’m having trouble remembering a recent genre property (film, TV or video game) that didn’t have either a female lead, or else a male lead who’s a bit of a doofus backstopped by a more competent and slightly exasperated woman. Am I wrong?

        Also, while it’s not a romantic comedy, Sylvester Stallone did play the lead in a “French farce” style film. I am not making that up.

        • It’s probably confirmation bias but I’m having trouble remembering a recent genre property (film, TV or video game) that didn’t have either a female lead, or else a male lead who’s a bit of a doofus backstopped by a more competent and slightly exasperated woman. Am I wrong?

          You’re not wrong. The only two mainstream series I can think of that weren’t superhero properties that had a completely competent male leads who were both smart and physically adept was the Jason Bourne series and the John Wick films.

          Obviously you’ll find plenty of alpha heroes in the B-movie category, but at least they exist.

          In games… sadly from indie to mid-budget and from mid-budget to AAA, just about all of them that come to mind features a male who is either dependent on a female for help or is the doofus type as you said. Oh, there was DOOM from 2016 that actually had the Doom Guy being completely autonomous.

          • Dane Smith

            Metal Gear, Persona, and Yakuza come to mind. Granted Yakuza isn’t US mainstream.

          • Yeah… you’re right. In fact, I think I should have clarified that the comment was mostly in regard to Western gaming media, since in Japan there are plenty of games where the hero is fairly self reliant without being a doofus.

          • Disqusted

            It’s not even just being a doofus. Japan doesn’t seem to have a problem making competent protags/heroes who still rely on others for help.

            I think the West likes to make it look like relying on others at all means you must be useless.

        • Luke Cypert

          Definitely confirmation bias.

          Only 26 of the top 100 films last year had a female main character.

          • mikebrand83

            And can you tell us how many of the top 100 had “a male lead who’s a bit of a doofus backstopped by a more competent and slightly exasperated woman.”?

            If you’re going to debunk someone’s statement as definitely confirmation bias, you could at least debunk the actual statement, not just dismiss half of it to hit a strawman instead.

            Also, which top 100 are we talking about? Top 100 grossing, or top 100 promoted? Some films have extensive advertisement all over the place (print, TV, online, etc) and artificially boosted in social media trends, ingraining themselves into people’s consciousness and colouring their opinion of what kind of movies are coming out of Hollywood… Which doesn’t actually mean that these films would necessarily go on to be successful at the box office.

          • daniel_ream

            He also missed the “recent” and “genre property” (which means fantasy/SF/horror/supernatural generally) filters, but it doesn’t matter. SJWs always lie.

          • Luke Cypert

            I did talk about recent, it was the top grossing films of last year. I don’t think there’s data for this year’s films yet, so that would be hard to discus. As for “genre property” I don’t have data on that either (and I’m not a fan of horror etc, so I can’t really speak to that).

            As for being a “SJW” (I came to this article to find out what that meant, because I didn’t know a Star Wars era with those initials), that’s laughable. To explain, I’ll say that modern feminism is a special kind of stupid, held only by the most illogical of people. I’m an ultra-conservative Republican.

          • daniel_ream

            So you don’t actually have any meaningful information to add. Thanks for clearing that up.

          • Luke Cypert

            I added it in the comment above yours. I’ll copy it here for you:

            Well, it’d be pretty difficult to set criteria for what constitute a “doofus backstopped by a more competent and slightly exasperated woman”

            Studies tend to look at just the number of rolls, the amount of dialog, the number of women directors, DPs, writers etc… They also look at weather women exist in stories just as love interests, or if they are shown with careers or if they contribute to the plot. These things are easier to measure than the competency of a character.

            And I was referring to the top 100 grossing films of 2016.

            Here’s a fun interactive diagram showing the top 10 films and the amount of dialog by gender: https://proquestionasker.github.io/projects/MovieDialogueInteractive/

            And here is a breakdown of the top 100 of 2014 and 2015’s top films:https://seejane.org/research-informs-empowers/data/

          • Thanks for the links. I’ll take a look at those. But yeah, lol, you didn’t actually address his issue just kind of provided a numerical basis between the gender divide in roles.

            It’s a difficult thing to gauge, though, and a lot of the data sources out there seem to be getting more and more muddied, which makes it really hard to get a sound understanding of the figures.

          • Luke Cypert

            Well, it’d be pretty difficult to set criteria for what constitute a “doofus backstopped by a more competent and slightly exasperated woman”

            Studies tend to look at just the number of rolls, the amount of dialog, the number of women directors, DPs, writers etc… They also look at weather women exist in stories just as love interests, or if they are shown with careers or if they contribute to the plot. These things are easier to measure than the competency of a character.

            And I was referring to the top 100 grossing films of 2016.

            Here’s a fun interactive diagram showing the top 10 films and the amount of dialog by gender: https://proquestionasker.github.io/projects/MovieDialogueInteractive/

            And here is a breakdown of the top 100 of 2014 and 2015’s top films:https://seejane.org/research-informs-empowers/data/

          • Disqusted

            I don’t even watch recent films anymore because they’ve been so terrible.

        • Disqusted

          Was reading a Reddit thread about that yesterday. They were talking about the “rural purge”? of television, and how since then, male protagonists in media tend to be obese, useless, bigoted losers with strong females supporting them, or something like that.

          • daniel_ream

            This has been a sitcom staple for decades, at this point.

        • tajlund

          If you’re talking about Oscar, it’s one of my favorite Stallone films. The man had solid comedy chops.

    • Luke Cypert

      You’re joking?

      Action heros are regularly great soldiers and great pilots. That’s seriously your complaint?

      • daniel_ream

        Yes, it’s seriously my complaint. This isn’t a James Bond action movie where the lead character is cartoonishly hyper-competent at everything and the actor’s salary sucks up so much of the budget they can’t afford an ensemble cast with specific skills.

        It’s a class-based FPS. It’s not like anyone really cares about the single-player campaign, but at least put some effort in. There’s no reason the player can’t play an elite fighter squad in the spacefighter maps and commandos in the ground maps. There’s no need for Imperial Space Team Ninja Force or whatever.

        • Luke Cypert

          So, if you’re not one of the people who wanted the campaign or will probably even play the campaign, why would you not be interested in the game?

          I’m not interested in the game because of how bad the first one was.

          And actually, this is a Star Wars game, which seems pretty analogous to James Bond…

          • daniel_ream

            “[…] a Star Wars game, which seems pretty analogous to James Bond…”

            I was going to make a comment about your lack of credibility, but I see you’ve already taken care of that. Thanks!

          • Luke Cypert

            Star Wars has people running around blocking laser guns with light swords. Star Wars has farm boys flying space ships for the first time and blowing up millions of people. Star Wars has all kinds of super heroes.

          • It’s true they do.

            I can’t speak for everyone else, but for me the issue was that we’ve come off things like Republic Commando and the story arc involving Vader’s Fist in Pandemic’s Battlefront 2, both of which actually fit into what @daniel_ream:disqus mentioned in his comment.

            They’re squad based tales centered loosely around believable military structure. Vader’s Fist weren’t invincible, they weren’t the most elite of the elite, but they survived long enough to become feared. It was a campaign closer to the likes of something you might find in CoD just with less set pieces and explosions.

            Battlefront was supposed to be the boots-on-the-ground, more realized take on Star Wars lore with nods to the heroes (who are aptly referred to in the game as Heroes).

            I think the issue is that — and anyone thinking this very well could be wrong — they’ve taken the basic squad soldier and promoted them to hero status instead of it being based on a band of soldiers. In the older lore the Stormtrooper tales were usually squad oriented (and this is supposed to be a squad oriented game), but here we see that Iden is not only the leader but getting majority of the spotlight as the one who seeks revenge and gets redemption.

            As I said, I could be way off and maybe this is a tale about camaraderie and brotherhood and not about the hero complex. Maybe it’s just marketing focusing on Iden.

          • tajlund

            The comics have an imperial squad kind of like that. Just a small unit that gets sent in to do the quiet work. Though they wind up blowing up too much stuff to be a stealth unit.

  • Disqusted

    Bitch Dier must have always wanted to become the world’s greatest scammer. That’s why he worships Sasquatch so much. Williams sounds like he has a MASSIVE hard-on for Bitch. Maybe he wanted to become a scammer, too.

    Even if you didn’t tell me about the SJW bullshit, something about the female characters in this game looks so derp.

    • Richard

      I think they are the definition of “Circle Jerk”.

  • John27

    If they’re going to shove their SJW BS in our faces again that only means I’ll be getting the game from CPY instead of Steam.

    • Disqusted

      Or you could just not get it at all.

      • I’ll just stick with the old Pandemic Battlefronts, thanks.

        Fucking EA and Disney, shitting up everything good.

        • The R.H. Deplorable

          Amen to that just like EA ruined Bioware and destroys everything it touches.