How SJWs Always Seem To Take Control Of Forums And Social Media Platforms
SJWs
(Last Updated On: February 23, 2017)

One of the biggest issues plaguing most normal people in today’s society is that it seems as if most of the usual spaces where they go to discuss things and have fun, have been taken over by politically correct, moral busybodies. These people, oftentimes referred to as “Social Justice Warriors”, almost always seem to reiterate the same talking points centered around feminism, the patriarchy, oppression and progressivism. These people also seem to be in control of forums, chats, social media networks and discussion hubs. So why are they always in a position of power?

The Makings Of An Authoritarian

Well, there are a few factors for this. Typically people who can effectively moderate or operate a social platform must have a lot of time on their hands. This is something most normal people don’t have – when factoring in work, school, social life and other responsibilities. This means that the people who typically take on the task of being a full-time moderator have very few other responsibilities in life in order to devote themselves to monitoring and moderating others.

Second, positions of authority usually require someone who is good at following instructions. Most forums, websites or organizations have their own set rules, and people who are too lax with those rules find themselves ousted for being too lackadaisical. This in turn attracts people willing to not only put up with the hefty time requirements to moderate, but also accommodate the strict rules to moderate.

Third, people who appear to lack control in their own lives, or notable accomplishments outside of the virtual space, are inclined to carve out an identity of worth by exerting control and authority over others through forums or social media networks.

So with those standards in place, it’s pretty easy to subsume those factors into another larger component of the personality traits that distinctly separate SJWs from typical mods, janitors, administrators and webmasters: they want to control the behavior of others in order to feel more fulfilled.

Now that last point is the one that distinctly separates them from other people who dedicate their time to monitoring and moderating social hubs. The question, however, becomes: why do they want to control others?

SJW Ideology And Behaviorism

Well, here is where things get interesting. In the Frankfurt school of thought there are a lot of threads that lead back to critically examining and deconstructing social norms, usually the kind that constitutes most of Western society. This includes materialism, capitalism and traditional social norms.

So what does any of that have to do with SJWs? Well, remnants of that train of thought have been parroted often in Academia circles, most notably in those related to gender studies, something that Sargon of Akkad has been critiquing for years. Many people now refer to these practitioners as Cultural Marxists, since they practice social communism; attempting to strip away identity and individuality in place of homogenity.

The patriarchy, capitalistic oppression and class privilege are the tenets of their talking points, with a lot of their roots being in the classical German philosophies and third-wave feminism.

So what does this have to do with SJWs taking over forums?

Well, this applies to what they learn in the classroom and then take back into their social lives (or lack thereof). Oftentimes these people are marred in their own personal lives, or potentially suffer from various disorders, and use the philosophy of Cultural Marxism as a way to explain away their own inadequacies in life, whether it’s financial instability, poor relationship choices, or social awkwardness.

Some of them also seem to suffer from borderline personality disorder, which is described in a journal report by Leslie C. Moerey from the Texas A&M University and Mary C. Zanarini from the Harvard Medical School as having recurrent suicidal behavior, impulsive or self-damaging addictions such as binge eating, sex, or substance abuse, as well as emotional instability with episodic anxiety or unpredictable mood swings that last from hours to days. One of the more common traits is a pattern of extreme idealized or devalued views.

Can you think of any emotionally erratic SJWs? Any obese SJWs? Any SJWs with unstable self-identity issues? Any SJWs with extreme idealizations or devaluations of societal norms? Any suicidal SJWs? Any of them with all of these traits?

They use the SJW philosophy as a crutch, a way to paint themselves as a victim while easily painting others as the villain. And if they can’t exert their authority over the villain, they censor them… which is exactly what Twitter did to Milo, as reported by The Blaze.

This also ties into another psychological trait some of them seem to foster, such as Narcissistic Personality Disorder, where Psychiatric Times explains it as someone having a strong sense of self to the point of believing they are “special” and require certain kinds of attention. These are people who lack empathy, are willing to use, abuse and exploit others for personal gain, and are quick to become envious.

Know anyone in the SJW circles like that?

Finally, there’s the Histrionic Personality Disorder, explained by the Psych Central as people with rapidly shifting or “shallow expression of emotions” and someone who constantly uses their physical appearance to draw attention to theirself, as well as considering relationships to be more intimate than they actually are.

Literally who could you think of that might fit those above traits while adopting SJW mindsets?

Establishing Toxic Oppression

After using Gender Studies philosophies to gain a bearing on what’s “problematic” in the world, their righteous crusade usually starts with censuring people for using “problematic” language that they feel is used to oppress minorities or inhibit less privileged groups. For example, user Al_Simmons uses this tactic to convince others in a Reddit post that using certain language is “oppressive”….

“Using the word “faggot” is like calling someone a “nigger”, it carries oppression behind it. Sure 4chan uses it like a casual phrase, but it’s still not right. “but it’s just a common word used online” etc. Well in certain circumstances, gays were called “faggots” and were maimed/bashed/murdered. Why should that word be acceptable? I see it so commonly everywhere.”

It doesn’t matter what the context is, or how the word is used. In the minds of those often called SJWs, they apply absolute weight to the terminology they define as “offensive”. They can also redefine terms to become offensive in order to maintain control over language and tone policing.

In fact, Peter Goffin from Rabble.ca wrote a piece explaining how using “oppressive” language contributes to oppressing minorities and the less privileged, stating…

“It’s important that when you hear oppressive language that you explain why it is offensive and continuing oppression. It’s a form of verbal violence that exposes someone’s privileged view of the world. When people use this kind of language, they aren’t just harming an individual, but contributing to a history of subjugation and oppression that has spanned generations. Every struggle of a marginalized group has a history, a background of accepted and overt discrimination and violence. By using oppressive language, people are adding to that collective experience.”

It all goes back to the same jargon and sophistry being taught in the classroom… once again, mostly in relation to Gender Studies. And in some cases, it’s not necessarily learned in the classroom but learned from friends or family, or from a group of like-minded people.

How SJWs Gain Power

Now we already established that you need a lot of time on your hands to do moderation work. Whether that’s schmoozing with the owners of a site, network or organization, or spending a lot of time among the community. Therefore, it’s quite obvious that people who can afford to spend that amount of time time socializing have to forfeit other responsibilities, thus they either come from a privileged household (e.g., upper class, well to do households, etc.,) or someone else is taking care of them (e.g., unable to hold a job, living with parents, etc.,).

So how do people with Gender Studies under their belt end up having so much time on their hands where they attempt to become moderators and administrators? Well, there are several reasons. 1) Some people who have Gender Studies degrees are unable to find work, thus giving them lots of idle time on their hands. 2) People who hang out with those with Gender Studies knowledge already have a lot of time on their hands and are looking to latch onto something vicariously, which may include the philosophy of an SJW, since it does ultimately preach inclusiveness.

Now according to UCI, they state that Gender Studies will help with reasoning, critical thinking, and knowledge about pop-culture and historical events. Some people who majored in the field reiterate what the UCI states on its page, but even in a blog post – like the one from XO Jane – there’s the uneasy admission that finding suitable work with a Gender Studies skillset is not easy. However, in the blog she resolves to console herself by saying the knowledge was worth it in the end…

“What so many of the swipes aimed at “useless” degrees miss is that a college education is not only supposed to be job training; qualities like critical thinking, writing, communicating with people, and being able to problem-solve in the workplace and daily life are also important. To think of a degree as only a means to an end on either side — as only good for getting a job, or as only a means for “finding yourself” as New Agers like to say — reduces its value significantly.”

As noted by Forbes, critical thinking in a liberal arts field hasn’t stopped it from churning out graduates with a 9.4% unemployment rate, making it on the list as one of the top 10 worst college majors.

Essentially, these people have to go somewhere or put their knowledge to use somehow. What better way than in the human networking field? Here is where the typical SJW applies to a job working as a public relations officer for a company, which usually includes monitoring social media feeds, moderating the forums and garnering feedback from users to relay to the company.

These jobs are somewhat easy to abuse because they apply their ideology in how they convey customer feedback to the company. Just like for instance with the game Mighty No. 9… a self-admitted feminist and SJW, Dina Abou Karem, acknowledged in leaked chat logs that she joined the project as the public relations rep with the intent of injecting feminist ideology into it, saying…

“You all have no fucking idea how sexist my employer is and what I had to do to get them to 1) change no.2 into a girl 2) make Beck’s rival Ray into a black woman presenting androgynous 3) add another big character as female which I can’t tell you about because they have not been revealed yet.

 

“Oh [Mighty No 9] still has the trademark japanese underlying sexism. […] I was just gonna keep my head down and not say anything SJW-ey when I first got the job but after they tried to get me fired/kill myself I went full feminist and it kinda worked haha.”

Here we observe Dina not only acknowledging a feminist slant in how she views the project, but also acknowledging that she wanted to use her ideology to influence the outcome of a project that would affect others.

We saw a similar thing happen with Alison Rapp, a former public relations employee for Nintendo. However, some of her more extreme views and a rather risque moonlighting job ended up resulting in her getting nixed from the company, as reported by Game Skinny.

The same applied to Nich Maragos, a former English major who eventually became a games journalist, who eventually ended up working in localization for various video game publishers. During the Fire Emblem Fates fiasco, Maragos revealed his true intentions of trying to subvert heteronormative culture in games, adopting typical SJW talking points.

Not Every SJW Is A Gender Studies Major

As the example above notes, Maragos wasn’t a Gender Studies major, he minored in computer science and Japanese linguistics. However, he was very much introduced to the SJW mindset while working in video games journalism.

For those of you who don’t know, video game journalism is a hotbed for SJWs. Many academics who couldn’t cut it in the STEM fields resolved themselves to writing fields. Writing books is hard work but journalism these days is little more than blogging. However, when they couldn’t cut it at larger outlets, they settled with video games. This was evident with the academics attempting to subvert hardcore gaming by killing off the term “gamer”.

This very topic was discussed in a Google Group featuring members from the Critical Distance group discussing gamer culture and how to make it more “progressive” by removing it from the more hardcore elements. Alan Williamson, from Critical Distance, received support from those within the Google Group for wanting to distance himself from the term gamer. One of the members, an academic named Dan Golding, explained…

“I didn’t ever like the term ‘gamer’, but it wasn’t until I read this scholarly article that I stopped using it altogether”

Dan Golding was friends with Leigh Alexander, the same Leigh Alexander who was the former managing editor at GamaSutra… the same Leigh Alexander and Dan Golding who contributed to the “Gamers are Dead” articles.

That kind of ideology was easily spread through most major games journalism ranks thanks to private groups like the GameJournoPros, where members like Leigh Alexander and influencers like former IGF chairman Brandon Boyer helped to continue to spread the standard SJW talking points they picked up from people like Dan Golding.

Given that Anita Sarkeesian and Jonathan McIntosh were on the advisory board for Silverstring Media, and Silverstring Media had Zoya Street working for them, there was literally a direct connection that Zoya made from the ideological academic circles to the video game journalism ring. It also helped that Zoya worked with subversive critical theory gaming outlets like Critical Distance.

Spreading The SJW Ideology To Forums/Social Media

In the case of games journalism… it was easy for the SJW mindset to spread from the academic circles to the GameJournoPros, and then from the GameJournoPros to the actual gaming communities.

Classic gaming culture was rebuffed by the SJW ideology, and when the journalists began utilizing this ideology through their writing, they had it reinforced by silencing readers and dissenters who spoke out against them in the comment sections.

We saw this take place with Rock, Paper, Shotgun, who proceeded to not only come to the defense of Anita Sarkeesian, but also censure the gaming community about its habits in how women are treated, and then censor their own community from offering any rebuttals.


We saw the same tactic applied to other sites like Polygon, Destructoid, Gamespot, Engadget and Kotaku. Unsurprisingly enough, each of those sites had journalists who were part of the GameJournoPros. Many of the same talking points, many of the same ideological references, many of the same measures to silence dissent.

In fact, some users spotted the moderators chastising users for speaking ill of feminism and Social Justice Warriors. A Gamespot moderator wrote…

“Everyone, please be aware that discussion of this article is fine, but rants against “SJWs” or anti-feminist comments or the vilification of any other real or imagined social group whom you blame for something you don’t like will be deleted.”

We saw this also apply to the forums on Blade & Soul when gamers were angered that localizers had censored content in order to make it less “problematic”. The Blade & Soul forum moderators began censoring topics discussing the censorship of the game. This also happened on the PSO World forums, where a moderator attempted to censor people from attacking Social Justice Warriors, with his reasoning being that SJWs are marginalized.

So not everyone who is a games journalist or Gender Studies major is an SJW, and likewise not every SJW is a games journalist or a Gender Studies major. Sometimes there are people simply looking to “belong” who latch onto the beliefs because it sounds good on paper, and they decide to follow along because it seems like the right thing to do, sort like ex-football player Chris Kluwe.

It’s Not Just Video Games

The thing is, it’s not just gaming. We saw this happening with comic books, tabletop gaming and even in the coding field. For instance, GitHub was part of an SJW cleansing, where they were infiltrated from the inside and inculcated with “progressive” ideologies, resulting in a lot of people losing their jobs, a lot of repositories being shut down, and a lot of disgruntlement all the way around, as reported by Business Insider.

Beyond the forums, we also saw this happen on sites like IMZY, as well as established social media networks like Twitter, where they’ve been aggressively enforcing selective shadowbanning and throttling. It’s something that has pervaded amongst many of the top subs on Reddit, which was revealed by leaked moderator chat logs where they admitted to censoring topics that they didn’t like.

But Why Do SJWs Resort To Censorship?

So why do SJWs resort to censorship? Easiest question to answer: Because they don’t trust that their beliefs can hold up to scrutiny.

Some of them will repeat the standard talking points before blocking, muting or censoring someone; but if the standard talking points aren’t swaying the masses, then they have to resort to censorship to protect their feelings.

The often repeated phrase “Facts over feels” isn’t just a meme, it’s the truth. But this goes back to more deep-seated issues in people who adopt the SJW mentality, oftentimes coming from broken homes, parental neglect, or sexual abuse suffered from when they were younger.

The reason they can’t argue the facts and must resort to censorship is because they likely don’t actually believe what they’re saying. It’s a safety mechanism to hide behind; they would rather relish in the comfort of others who give them attention and authority. Hence, they can hide away in a safe space where those who are like-minded can echo platitudes amongst one another.

We oftentimes see where SJWs will be quick to boot someone out of the club if they don’t virtue signal enough, or don’t moral grandstand in the right way, or don’t condemn a certain person, act or political leaning.

In a Medium post, Ryan Smith, a game journalist who was a former member of the GameJournoPros, described this sort of behavior as a form of “groupthink”.

Another perfectly salient example of this happening in the public sphere — where users are banned from the forum for having the wrong opinion, liking the wrong item, or offering to think critically about a situation — is none other than NeoGaf.


TL;DR: SJWs with Gender Studies degrees couldn’t find work doing anything meaningful, so they end up preaching their dogma on forums after becoming moderators and censoring people who disagree with them.


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Billy has been rustling Jimmies for years covering video games, technology and digital trends within the electronics entertainment space. The GJP cried and their tears became his milkshake. Need to get in touch? Try the Contact Page.

  • What a great article!!!
    Thanks Billy D

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    Update: EEEK, my Twitter account had been limited 2 times

  • Mysterious_Man

    This was a really good article. I particularly liked the bit about SJW’s not believing their own BS.

    • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

      SJW do not believe their BS because they are working for evil political elitists

  • Jalulz Anarchist Dragun

    By teh way, SJWs are part of teh Elite. You don’t see any gamers in the United Nations do you? You gotta affiliate with the Illuminati to have any influence in the society. These SJWs are puppets and stooges.

  • Jalulz Anarchist Dragun

    Nice article man. Get yo paper nigga. 🙂

  • Phasmatis75

    Exceptional article. Well source, well written (could be expanded in a few areas, but me wanting more is good). I hope your proud of this piece.

    • I cut down on a few areas because it was long enough as it was, but I figured most people could fill in the gaps. Anytime I stop caring about writing something I imagine people will get tired of reading it, so it’s best to keep things as concise as possible.

      • Phasmatis75

        Fair enough, but it’s a great topic and it feels a bit too condensed. Great read though, definitely going down as a reference.

  • Vice01

    Fighting with these fucks every day on reddit. Best way is to go full aggressive mode on them and use same phrases they normally use against you. It just shuts them down for good, they don’t know what to answer and just downvote you in their impotent rage.

    • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

      It just so happens that the SJWs are also dominant in Google+ as well, as of 2016/2017. However, I am restoring my trololz mode, which means, the battle begins… 🙂

      Reddit is harder for winning the Internet battle, nonetheless, it is possible. 🙂

  • Alistair

    Ahhh good one never hear misandry for a long time, and balance is once again restore.

    Now I got a word back at them, if they keep bringing up misogyny and sexist.

    Say misandry. “Hateful of men” they say things are problematic, they are problematic.

    Censorship, etc etc is the tools of misandry SJWs.

  • Raging Papist

    Very, very good Billy. Have you read “SJWs Always Lie” by Vox Day? If not you should. Its also got a short survival guide as to what you should do if you come under SJW attack. In essence, it starts with an infiltration by one or two people that “just want to help the company.” In so doing, thy start to change the culture and promote their friends until they are in charge, and finally getting rid of opposition within. Quite literally like a cancer or how a virus operates.

    • ExhaustedSquid

      Yup; parasitic actions which leaves nothing but a dead husks in the wake when they ultimate fail only to move on to something else.

  • nailedvision

    Great read. I think you should give the following a watch: https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=xvrSKP0pc9g

    Peterson goes into detail about two types of SJWs: authoritarians and egalitarians. Essentially the later are thought leaders, think the university professors, whereas the former are the foot soldiers that take up the cause in a very dogmatic way.

    The big difference between the groups is their linguistic abilities. Both in understanding and expression. The authoritarians have less ability and therefore like the article suggests resort to banning it no platforming because they can’t effectively defend or even really understand their own views. They just know they are about inclusion, that inclusion is good and they empathise with the oppressed, then parrot what the egalitarians are saying.

    Now that’s not to say their ideas are bad or can’t be defended, just that these people are not up to the task, just like many right wing trolls, right wing authoritarians, are not up to the task themselves. It’s important to remember if wasn’t very long ago that the right were the ones wanting to ban and silence everything under the sun too.

  • LePatriote1980

    This is basically forced corporate leftism. The SJWs take control of sites and forums because this is what the owners want in most of the cases.

  • alec j

    Great article.

    A must read for anyone new to the war for intellectual freedom especially, but not exclusively, within gaming culture.

    Critical theory is evil. Making good the enemy of perfect while accepting cancerous and insane models of society in the war against everything we have learned from history…..its either a cult or a mental disorder….or both.

  • Disqusted

    I think SJW mindset is very appealing to certain types of people who enjoy the advantages afforded from being an SJW:
    – Privilege to bully others based on non-facts and manufactured false moral superiority.
    – Power to influence anything and everything using the above.
    – Free reign to criticize anything and everything, with zero responsibility.
    – No need to ever justify or explain anything, just cite feels and throw a tantrum.
    – Perfect excuse to be a selfish, obnoxious piece of shit.
    – Easy to collude with other SJWs and bully innocent people.
    – Intelligence, skill, talent not necessary. Lowest of the low can be a great SJW.
    – Free money, phones, transport, etc provided by Soros-funded organizations.

    With these kinds of advantages, you can see why SJW is so attractive to people who have no hobby, no skills, no talents, no valid argument. It’s basically an instant win button for assholes.

    • Disqusted

      I just heard that Jane Seo, a food blogger who writes for the Huffington Post, was busted faking her marathon time, going so far as to bike the entire course to cover her tracks. She even refused to admit she did it until the evidence overwhelmingly weighed against her.

      The interesting part is, most news sites are completely omitting the fact that she writes for the Huffington Post. Ars Technica, for example. If I recall correctly, Ars Technica likes to slander gamers. Yet another incidence of mainstream media covering for each other, just like with how they were proven to collude with each other in GameJournoPros.

      That’s why they are VERY FAKE NEWS.

      • EroBotan

        thanks for the lol worthy news XD ! I wonder why she would try to cheat on an event like this lol .. just for a special membership of a running club aka bragging rights? And it seems that this is not the only event where she cheated too.

        She can’t be trusted even on little trivial stuff, she most likely corrupt to the core.

        • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

          Food bloggers (many of them female) are often horrible as shit, as they ARE the status quo of Western society. And of course, Western society is ridiculously gynocentric (blind worship of females without providing them with accountability) and occultist (likely to be hiding stuff such as knowledge).

          So, yes, she is corrupt to the core.

          • Jalulz Anarchist Dragun

            Its kinda sad really. All of society is completely gynocentric.

      • ExhaustedSquid

        We live in a time where people can get away with cheating so long as they are not ‘privileged’.

        • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

          Feminazis are psychologically projecting whenever they scream “male privilege!!11!1!!!111111”

      • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

        Food bloggers are a part of a separate conspiracy: ” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis#Social_and_cultural_iatrogenesis “. This is a resulting effect of another issue: Parents/educational institution/mainstream news media. All three of them want to remove good health and good pleasure, so they promote veganism, so veganism is NOT “revolutionary”, instead it is preaching to the choir! The society uses veganism to force people to think that they cannot change, by indoctrinating them that “the body is made of drugs!!111”, and then the society forces the person to take drugs (such as vitamin supplements or antidepressants) to so-called “cure diseases” so that their body is physiologically attached to the drug, meaning that an emotion cannot be expressed without taking that drug, which is spooky. As a result, their mentality does not change, despite any logical arguments placed forward. Feminazis are generated by that. And also, the social “therapy” the society’s doctors give out to people is used to make a person STFU and conform to society, instead of allowing the person to express the pain. For those who only “partially heal” from the pro-iatrogenic lifestyle, they still think of ALL food as drugs. Vegans are psychologically weak f*ckheads (they are easily traumatised). The society also enforces veganism by constantly demonising meat and dairy, and anything directly affiliated with meat and dairy (cholestrol, proteins, lipids…). They are so moronic, that even Felix had to refute one of them (Sorsha).

        The next part of the culture battle is to go against the food/fitness bloggers [and the vloggers of food/fitness]!!!! Most food/fitness bloggers are fearful females (Many of them are particularly paranoid about autism/ADHD, because autism/ADHD are more logic-oriented!).

        [ #1 Also, the pop psychology bloggers pretend that dysfunctional behaviour is set in stone (the bloggers use the word “inherent” a lot, for no sane reason. LOL.) in specific demographics, preventing flexibility of bodily functions (especially flexibility of brain function), which is exactly what the political elitists want, to secure the position of a working lifestyle/religious extremist mindset. They flood good psychology with tons of crap psychology.]

        [ #2 There might be a regret in the statement in the square bracketed box paragraph #2, but…Biology is the only main science category that political vitriol is “über alles” (“above all” in German language) compared to logic and reason. This is why Physics and Chemistry are “hard sciences”.]

        The mainstream news media has always been EVIL (though with the small exception of a few decent mainstream news media articles). The sole purpose of the mainstream news media is to push foward the government’s perspective. So it is a propaganda centre. And also, the whole of the mainstream news media probably has many more private groups that push forward the government’s perspective. So yes, these mainstream news media websites are quite fake news. However, the people must NEVER expect a politician (especially Drumpf) to truly go against a USA authority (including its mainstream news media). As long as USA politics rules (and Vatican politics, which is above USA politics) there will always be a mainstream news media. The people are the ones who can take down the mainstream news media…if they were NOT worshipping politicians. Politicians are just there for the authority and enslavement.

        The SJW white knights are the bad part of the culture battle. In this culture battle, logic and reason are ignored while society’s insecurities are considered as a “valid argument tactic”.

  • MusouTensei

    Fucking cancerous garbage people.

  • Bitterbear

    They’re also are deceptively inexpensive. Also, the positions they take are also deceptively seen as insignificant so they always rely on the lowest common denominator such as someone else girlfriend, or a coworker’s friend/relative/hellspawn.

  • Thank you for this article.

    • I think that intelligent and civilized conversation online is rare

      I agree. But it depends on where you go to look for it.

      I never felt confident enough that my opinion could offer something of value

      Well it depends on the value you wish either contribute or gain that makes the difference. If you want to change someone’s opinion, you have to ask yourself why? And if you’re willing to have your opinions changed, you have to ask yourself how much of your opinion on something are you willing to concede and how comfortable are you with it?

      Sometimes it seems that online discussions are dominated by people with set-to-stone beliefs and myside bias.

      That’s true anywhere… it’s just online people can be less cordial about it than in real life.

      • Most comment barrages that I have encountered online are more of a debate than a discussion. I have tried Reddit and I must say that I had some great conversations in some subreddits.

        In off-the-net conversations I can usually tell from the first couple of seconds whether the exchange of opinions is to defend a set of pre-established belief and in the process change the ‘enemy’ opinion to yours, or to explore new possibilities and novel ways to think through someone else’s point of view. 80% of what I have experienced falls on the first category, and that makes me so sad.

        Thank you so much for replying.

        • Bitterbear

          Science/tech sites are the worst. If they aren’t already gone full Illiberal/SJW, they will eventually be. And those that resist the influence will have the site owner(s)’ life destroyed.

          Case in point:

          http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2015/07/03/bora_zivkovic_r.html

          You’d think a higher IQ will shield an individual from tribalism but eh, in the end, we’re all slaves to our instincts.

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            Physics and Chemistry are less affected. However, Biology does have so many bitter morons…

        • Disqusted

          I think fundamentally it’s because most people don’t go online to learn or improve, they do it to pad their ego and prove they’re right, or to relieve stress from real life.

          • Bitterbear

            That’s why many sites have implement the Like/Dislike feature in the comments‘ section. It’s important because it increases the user engagement and also drives pageviews.

          • Disqusted

            I don’t like dislike buttons, they’re vague as hell and not constructive. It could mean anything: they disagreed for some random reason, they didn’t like your post because it made them sad, they think you’re absolutely wrong, etc.

            I once had SomethingAwful focus on bullying one of my joke mod videos because some assholes thought it was “anime” and summoned an army to downvote it to hell. Assholes who clearly have nothing better to do.

            And then there’s the vote manipulation shit on sites like Reddit, both by admins and third parties like Correct The Record and Soros’ lackeys. Just doesn’t seem like a good system to me. Too easy to abuse.

            People on Reddit also often seem to downvote facts and upvote whatever makes them feel good.

            I think Japanese sites usually only allow people to push stuff up, not down. That’s true for NicoVideo, at least. I’m sure that’s not the perfect solution either, though.

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            Overall, as a technology feature, it is interesting, but as a user engagement system, is can sometimes be either useful, hilarious, or misleading and horrifying.

            Then again, it is the Internet, where trololz and opinions are galore!

      • Disqusted

        Yeah, you can be sure any popular or major site will be run by SJWs who actively suppress people. The only places for intelligent discussion are smaller, lesser known sites like this.

    • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

      Almost all of the Internet, nonetheless of demographic, is a representation of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

      • I first came across this research during an e-sports discussion about how LoL players who are very confident in their skills are actually way worse than those who doubt whether they are actually good or not. Thank you for sharing!

        • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

          You are welcome 🙂

          Edit: And yes, there are players that suck hard that boast above their skill level, lol

        • Disqusted

          I think a good example is looking at the general quality of art on DeviantArt, and then looking at the quality of art on Japanese Pixiv.

          Most Japanese people I’ve met believe they have a long way to go and are always trying to get better. They tend to be really good at what they do.

          Most non-Japanese people I’ve met believe they have always been the absolute best with no room for improvement, throw a huge tantrum if anyone tries to give them constructive criticism, etc, etc. They tend to be complete utter trash at what they do.

          And I recently realized that people who believe they are the best/infallible are much easier to trick with propaganda. They’re so up themselves, they never want to admit they were fooled by bullshit. That doesn’t work with people who question themselves.

          • I wouldn’t go as far as saying that arrogance is encouraged, but I have to agree that the vast majority of people I know are afraid of constructive feedback. They take each criticism personally. When people take things personal they also tend to create defensive walls that turn them into…well… arrogant dumbasses. The problem is that we (the West, artists, writers, putyourowngroup) are so used to conflict that we believe every opinion to be a ‘frack you, you did it wrong’ instead of a ‘you know, this could be like this, without saying if it’s right or wrong. You’ll decide that.’

            Pixiv is a treasure chest of incredible artists. I wonder how many of them are actually employed in the anime/manga industry. I also happen to work for a Japanese company, and it’s true that they have a mentality of constant improvement. That mentality is not always in their favor, since I’ve seen people really good at what they do never being satisfied with the quality of the work.

          • Disqusted

            Added some stuff to the end of my previous post about how Westerners have a hero mentality and Japanese tend to work with others.

            Yeah, I think a lot of people on Western forums have a knee-jerk reaction where they think they’re being attacked and attack back, or they are actively looking for flaws in someone’s posts, so they can attack them for it. It’s sad.

            One of my oldest friends used to go around looking for people to attack online, as a means of alleviating stress from school, work, etc. I strongly disagree with doing that, but I’m sure a lot of people must be doing it.

            It also doesn’t help that Westerners tend to lack tact. When they criticize, they often just say “you suck, f**k you” and they never explain why. So even if you want to improve, you can’t. I think YouTube’s shitty downvote system is a good example of that.

            I’m sure a lot of people on Pixiv are pros, not just in anime/manga, but ero doujins, promotional art, games, media in general. Many are hobbyists, too. I know some Japanese artists who are soooo much better than I am, and they only do it as a side hobby. The downside to having so many good artists is there’s a lot of competition over there.

            I agree that always trying to be better can be a bad thing. I’m a perfectionist myself, and I waste so much time on stuff that probably doesn’t really matter. Balance is best.

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            [By the way, your display name is awesome 😀 , as it is the perfect terminology for what Disqus has done to their service:

            – No search function in Disqus
            – Downvotes are unfortunately invisible unless web browser developer tools or web browser extensions

            😀 ]

          • lol

            I love the style (don’t we all) but as an artist it’s MUCH easier to draw anime than realistic western-style art, so much stylization and sameface that can be drawn from memory, and even then anatomy mistakes abound on Pixiv lol.

          • Disqusted

            I think it depends on the artist. Like I have less trouble drawing out a real photo of someone, than drawing a caricature. Some people are only good at drawing the same kind of face, some can draw lots of different kinds, etc, etc.

            When I was in college, I found that a lot of people (both males and females) have trouble drawing males, because they mostly only draw females. Sorta interesting.

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            Japanese people do have some good artistic skills, which is why great video games can be produced from the aesthetic attributes of their awesome artwork.

            However, as much as the Japanese video game industry is the most passionate video game industry…however, within Japan, outside of the video game industry, some Japanese people are quite neoconservative (religious extremism?) enough to hate video games ( Japanese magazine hates video games? – https://www.japantoday.com/category/lifestyle/view/japanese-magazine-claims-pro-gamers-are-like-children-and-have-no-value-to-society ).

            It is all around the world (even Japan) that a conservative mentality to skills is present.

            Of course, trauma causes depression and anger. And if the person is raised to obey strict social norms, and there is no way out, then the person will conform to it out of FEAR. As a defense mechanism against trauma, the person will either hide the emotions, to induce depression, or will fight aggressively to gain back what the person no longer had. The person would supposedly become “resistant to gaslighting”, but if there is not much logic into the anger, then the person would also be “resistant to positive change”.

            And the main cause is the cult of statism. Government makes assholes by the use of trauma and depression.

            About “Westerners”, is that they often do not use logic in their mentality. This means that their supposed “independence” is never fully developed.

            Also, again, all the good stuff is mainly in the video game industry of Japan.

            Westerners are akin to most people that do not use logic: They are too easily traumatised, therefore too easily depressed.

            And since the “Westerners” cannot use logic, they just go with the pseudo-intellectual flow of BS on many Internet sites.

          • Disqusted

            It feels like generally logic and reasonable thinking are being suppressed and replaced with feels. Very sad. May as well go back to caveman times and thump each other over the head with clubs… whoops, already happening.

            No idea if that magazine is common thinking or not. There will always be some sensationalist assholes with shitty opinions making outrageous statements.

            One thing I always try to keep in mind is that most of the stuff the Western media reports about Japan (or any other country, really) is only the stuff that stands out and would grab people’s attention. That’s why people often think Japan is crazyland – mostly crazy stuff gets reported. The reality is often very different.

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            Logic and reason were mostly supressed throughout history, since km.t/Kemet (Egypt) or Roma (Rome). And about the prehistoric-era anatomically modern humans, they may not be the sunshine and rainbows that many people portray them, but they are not as bad as others portray them as. However, the nature of Earth’s environment is quite active, a reality that many feminazis in mainstream news media cannot comprehend.

            And apparently, as Japan is a quite strict society, the common person in Japan would be too reluctant to be honest about his/her feelings (” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honne_and_tatemae “. There is a similar issue in Anglosphere nations (USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, UK, Ireland) and even China, though less so in those sovereign states than Japan.), resulting in unnecessary collectivism. Japanese mainstream news media is also as guilty as any other mainstream news media. And in a strict society, the working class/middle class/upper class would only play the video game half-heartedly then trash it later on. Only the video game industry is good enough to develop and play its video games.

            Each “sovereign state” has its own differences, and embracing the positives of the differences can be awesome. However, every one of them has at least one negative (government is the main negative of all nations). And speaking of the type of media reports, here is a Malcom X quote:

            “The media’s the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that’s power. Because they control the minds of the masses.”

      • Disqusted

        Oh… I’ve been surrounded by assholes with that, for my entire life. Didn’t know it already has a name. Thanks!

        • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

          indeed

        • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

          It generally is an issue with Internet websites.

          Being an anarchist, gamer, MRA, science enthusiast…it is too harsh to perform successful online activism as most people are not as “progressive” or “freedom-loving” as they claim to be. Most people, however much “good ethics” they “agree” on, none of them are willing to defend incredibly for those good ethics, instead they pull the “enticing” morality and lecture on why activism should not improve, why it is not necessary to support something honourable…and more…

    • Disqusted

      I’ve had the same experience when trying to talk to Western people online. They don’t want to intelligently discuss anything, they just want to boast about how right they are, and attack anyone who doesn’t bend over to them. They have all made their minds up, and are always 1000000000000% certain they are absolutely correct.

      The Japanese people I’ve talked to have mostly been much more reasonable and intelligent. It’s really hard to find such people in the West, because the West is filled with people who are arrogant and believe they are perfection incarnate. Japanese people seem much more humble and empathetic. Of course, they’re still not perfect. We’re all still humans.

  • EroBotan

    another cause why these SJW can easily take over any forum is because the target is often bunch of naive good guys who think that a dialog & compromise can solve anything .. not realizing that compromising with SJW means you’re giving up a part of your freedom already, and the compromise from SJW side usually never happen (it’s always they win-you lose when dealing with SJWs). Repeat this process several times and the freedom is lost completely.

    • Also don’t forget that SJWs label the good guys as “sexists” and “misogynists” and make it known on social media if they don’t comply.

      They don’t really have a choice to be honest. I do agree that the naive good guys and “moderates” are a problem

      • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

        Speaking of “naive good guys” and “moderates”, there is an intriguing quote from Howard Zinn:

        Quote: “You can’t be neutral on a moving train”

        • EroBotan

          a few years ago i didn’t agree with that quote, but tons of game has been censored or even butchered beyond playable and tons others has been banned/canceled because the publishers are afraid of SJW. I don’t want to lose more games so I decided to changed my stance ^^.

          • ElKonsolero

            TBF media has always been butchered for stupid reasons.

          • Robert LVN

            Baldur’s Gate Dragonspear comes to mind. Though I think in that case the game creators themselves had an SJW agenda from the onstart.

          • Yep. In an interview one of them said that they had to update Baldur’s Gate because the original was filled with “sexist” and “racist” tropes.

          • Robert LVN

            Yes I think Safana was the name of one NPC. She used her sexuality as a weapon to get what she wanted and give her an advantage, which perfectly fits in with the setting of the Forgotten Realms. You use what you have available to you, and if you happen to be a sexy woman, you’ve got a tool at your disposal. Beamdog didn’t like that, and they considered it an improvement to sour her personality, turning her into a feminist.

          • EroBotan

            yeah, from what i heard a bunch of characters are acting like tumblrina instead of medieval heroes lol

          • Robert LVN

            I shit you not, a GOBLIN acuses you of racism in that game. A fucking GOBLIN. As in… a creature listed in the monster manual with a default alignment of neutral evil. This just blows my mind… because the default position of any player who doesn’t die at level one is to assume that MONSTERS are a threat unless they go out of their way to prove themselves friendly (and even then it could be a ruse). FFS… in the forgotten realms, what we call racism is what they call survival.

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            Lmfao, a goblin

          • EroBotan

            they really go all out there XD

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            yup

      • Jalulz Anarchist Dragun

        Sad thing is some of them proport themselves to be Anarchists.

  • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

    Politics… 🙁

    • EroBotan

      i don’t like politics either but if ignoring politics means your favorite games are censored beyond salvation or banned then I can’t stay idle.

      • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

        Agreed.

        Unfortunately, not a lot of video game support activism goes on in 2017 🙁

        • Disqusted

          Because a lot of dumb shits still think a 90+ billion dollar industry is “lol just games get a life”.

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            Unfortunately 🙁

            Many people around the world read a lot of mainstream news media, and the mainstream news media consistently bashes us video gamers, because video games encourage creativity and freedom, which is absent in the contemporary [working lifestyle and religious extremism] mindset of society

          • Disqusted

            The West doesn’t take games seriously, they think it’s still a hobby for kids or neckbeard misogynists who live in their mother’s basement. Same with animated “cartoons”.

            That kind of mentality doesn’t seem to exist in Japan. I’m always amazed at the variety of Japanese gamers I run into. 30-50 year old women who play RPGs, horror games and stuff. Probably a rarity in the West.

            When I watch non-game related Japanese streams even, a lot of gaming stuff seems to be common knowledge, even for people who don’t play games. Not that they all know the game references in depth, but they have a rough idea. 20-40 year old Japanese girls/women who’ve heard of Resident Evil, Call of Duty, etc. I get the impression that wouldn’t happen in the West.

            Not sure if all this is because Westerners are more ignorant/close-minded with less interests, or less memory capacity/learning capacity, or what. Wouldn’t be surprised if it had something to do with fluoridated water making people dumber.

            Oh, I should say that a Japanese friend told me that there aren’t many Japanese people who consider themselves “gamers”, per se. What we consider to be “hardcore gamers” are probably “gamers” in Japan.

  • Excellent article.

  • mikebrand83

    “If you think GAF is a hive mind where people get banned for disagreeing, we’ll ban you for defying the hive mind.”
    lolwat

    • FlamingoJet

      SJW logic is always lol wat

    • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

      lulz