Mass Effect: Andromeda’s Gay Romance, Animations To Be Fixed Over Next Two Months
Mass Effect Andromeda Animation Patch
(Last Updated On: April 5, 2017)

BioWare announced over on their official website that they will fix the gay romance options for Scott Ryder, along with adjust the conversations with the Hainly Abrams, along with adding more character creation options so you can make fair-skinned whites, Asians and mulatto individuals, over the course of the next two months.

They detailed that the first patch they’re going to release this Thursday, on April 6th, will fix the poop-walk animations for the Ryder twins, as well as clean-up the dead-eye effect for the humans and Asari in Mass Effect: Andromeda. Improved lip-synching and inventory limits will also be addressed in the Thursday patch. But really… I’m glad they’ll address those dead-eyes… because… wow…

All the butt-ugly human characters will have their hair and “general appearances” improved, along with more variety in the character creator added at a later date. They’ll toss in those features along with fixes for the cinematic scenes and animations. The animation fixes will take place over the course of months, which is the expected amount of time given how much work is required to overhaul animation sets in an AAA game.

As they mentioned in the post…

“Over the next two months we’ll be rolling out additional patches which will go even deeper and look to improve several areas of the game” […]

 

“These upcoming patches will also address performance and stability issues. And we’re looking at adding more cosmetic items to single player for free.”

Some people have tried to place the blame of Mass Effect: Andromeda‘s animations on outsourcing (even though every major studio outsources), others tried to say that it was the engine (even though Frostbite powered Dragon Age, Mirror’s Edge and Battlefield without any problems), and a few tried saying that the studio just didn’t have enough experience. In a way, the last point is true… but more-so for the fact that they decided to bring in inexperienced people with nothing on their resume that qualified them for the job, and they were given five years and $40 million to make magic happen; they didn’t.

Pirates are already having a field with Mass Effect: Andromeda now that it’s been cracked, and BioWare will be working against the clock to try to get the animations, voices, lip-synching and bugs fixed before everyone just completely gives up on the game.

Injecting identity politics into the design ecosystem of Mass Effect: Andromeda backfired badly, so now they have to spend more of EA’s money to fix a problem that shouldn’t have been there from the start. As many gamers have already said “Keep politics out of gaming”, and by that, they should have kept said politics from interfering with the quality of the final product. Maybe other studios will see this and take note so that it doesn’t repeat itself.


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  • DoDoDo Ro

    Too late now.

    I’ll wait til it’s in the $10-$20 dollar bin.

  • daniel_ream

    What’s that adage about trying to play chess with a pigeon? Ah, yes – “It knocks over the pieces, shits all over the board, then struts about like it won.”

  • John27

    Another year, another thing ruined by SJWs.

  • MONAD

    So, we’re basically paying $60 to participate in a BETA? Fuck you, Bioware, I’m done.

    • SevTheBear

      Yeah they screwed over A LOT of people. But the hard core fans defend it. Juts like Fallout and Skyrim fans 😛

  • Derek Schaaf

    This is sounding oddly familiar and I can’t quite put my finger on it. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/79df40c4d119c07232dd87dd9fdbfd52fac70ef5019a6c99a48ec7beaa9efb5f.jpg

  • LurkerJK

    Am I reading the patch notes for a full price AAA game or or the steam front page for an early access game ?

    How about I pay them with defective money and in the following two months I will gradually switch the bills with proper ones ?

  • SevTheBear

    So in short, the game was not finished at release but a BETA build sold for 60$ and now the team left behind needs 2-3 months to fix it all. Thanks EA it’s nice to know you love to screw your costumers over and don’t give a damn who the hell your dev team hire as long has it’s political correct.

    I really hope they don’t repeat this mistake again

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/44911d15aab932a1e6083a4c2075b123da47f6b52fd5e7f22d79dc20c50b1dd1.gif

    • Their won’t be an again as Bioware and EA are fucked.

  • Gozu Tennoh

    The homo shit is fixed. Just what everyone wanted.

    • SevTheBear

      They have to keep them 5% happy and safe right 😉

      • Disqusted

        5% of the tiny % that will bother playing through this shitfest.

        • SevTheBear

          with 2 months to fix it I say they can make it playable. But it ain’t gonna fix the voice acting and poor writing I have seen and have the “pleasure” of hearing xD

  • RichardGristle

    5 years and $40 mil couldn’t get it done, but it’ll be fixed in the next few weeks-2 months? What the shit were they doing before?

    • SevTheBear

      Drinking and smoking weed?

    • Disqusted

      Probably wearing vagina hats and marching for free tampons.

  • John27

    It’s always entertaining to watch delusional SJWs run face first into the brick wall of market economics.

  • Bitterbear

    When you say Gay Romance do you mean the homo stuff, or are you doing bait and switch tactics that LGBT sites do where they say gay but in reality is lesbian-related stuff?

    EDIT: Oh, Scott Ryder. Good. I really hate how all of a sudden lesbians are hijacking the term Gay now.

    • Yup, it literally means the gay male stuff, not the lesbian stuff.

  • NOTslow17mo

    This article is just full of inaccuracies. Hainsly Abrams didn’t say, “My face is tired.” That was Foster Addison. Nobody is giving up on a title selling this well. The fact that they’re including gay romance is nothing new and has made Mass Effect accessible to many people. The biggest issue in the original trilogy were that you couldn’t play as a gay male until Mass Effect 3. Now, five years later, their choices for gay Scott Ryder are even slimmer than in Mass Effect 3 (Cortez and Kaidan were both far bigger, far better characters than Gil and Reyes, both of whom are pretty much afterthoughts).

    • The fact that they’re including gay romance is nothing new and has made Mass Effect accessible to many people.

      What? When people say this it’s just confusing. You do know that there are more straight people out there who buy games than gays right? Statistically your comment makes zero sense when looking at demographic reach. If gay/lesbians make up 1% of the population, and there’s an estimated 10 million hardcore gamers (even though half of America is labeled as a gamer due to casual games), then statistically you’re looking at on average 100,000 potential hardcore gay/lesbian gamers you’re adding to potential sales in America.

      Hainsly Abrams didn’t say, “My face is tired.” That was Foster Addison.

      Thanks for the correction. I removed that line.

      • NOTslow17mo

        Who cares if straights are the majority? How does including a gay option do anything to affect straight male players? As a gay guy who bought all of the originals, I appreciated the fact that I can play as a gay guy in ME3 and MEA. As I said, all it does is expand their player base. No straight guy complained about Cortez or bisexual Kaidan in ME3. No straight guy gave a crap. Gay players, on the other hand, DID give a crap. So why not include it? More options = more people who are interested.

        • When you talk about “accessible to many people” you’re incorrect by using gay/lesbians/trans as a standard.

          Accessible to “many” people would actually be making the game more appealing to females, to which, sadly, they still don’t have quite as large a pie as they could.

          Technically, “accessible to many” would be tapping the female audience who reads romance novels. That’s a $1 billion industry all its own, made up of 84% of a female audience, according to Nielson: https://www.rwa.org/p/cm/ld/fid=580

          So, technically, from a capitalists point of view, it would have actually served them better to add more romance options stereotypical to romance novels: more male romance for the females, more handsome male custom character options, more female custom character options, a variety of different socially classed males designed as “suitors”.

          *shrugs*

          But obviously adding gay/lesbian/trans romance will bring in a minority of players from those groups, just not at a rate to which you could label that demographic as “many”, according to sales statistics.

        • Ghost

          Why are you dumb? Why?

          • SevTheBear
          • NOTslow17mo

            Right, I’m a hardcore fan–because I have an opinion after PLAYING THE GAME, unlike the majority of others here.

            No, I’m a hardcore fan of the franchise who is willing to call a spade a spade. There are problems with this game. But they’re not problems that prevent it from being awesome.

          • SevTheBear

            Well a lot of people seem to disagree with you. Having a tantrum and insult people on a website ain’t gonna fix that.

            Yes you sound like fanboy. This post talks about the problems with the game and that they will try to fix them. Yet here you are to defending Bioware and EA after they made a mess of MEA and keep saying *IT’S FANTASTIC* and *don’t you dare making fun or criticizes it* for not be willing to pay 60$ for an unfinished game. If you like it and see no wrong with it’s problems, that’s fine. More power to ya. But the others is gonna wait for the updates and fixes it needs and a price drop.

          • NOTslow17mo

            I’m saying it’s fantastic because I played it and it’s fantastic. It has nothing to do w/ fanboyism. And most of the people who disagree, didn’t play the game.

          • SevTheBear

            Again, good for you. But the rest of us ain’t convinced. I trust a friend who has played it and tells me it ain’t worth it over any raging fanboy 😉 Hell even the Big YouTubers says it has problems and that ain’t only the bugs they are talking about.

          • NOTslow17mo

            How about you make up your own mind? Sheople.

          • SevTheBear

            I did make up my mind. I trust my friend and the YouTubers I watch and it saves me from wasting 60$ on a unfinished game. I never Pre-order and I wait for friends or YouTubers to give me a better idea what the game is like. Is called common sense and vote with your wallet. You should try it 😉

        • LurkerJK

          Don’t talk for me, i do not agree with you

          Adding more fruit to a blend does not make it better, it turns it into a sweet goop without a specific taste

          Making them all BI does not make them “better”, knowing they would screw anyone or anything that would give them the X item they want or do their loyalty mission (sometimes less) just makes it even easier to consider them cheap whores

          i dont even like how easy is to bag aliens, Asaris had a plot reason to do that, but Turians or those Cat Twillek things are not even physically or biologically compatible, the Garrus relationship in 2 was played with humor for that reason

        • daniel_ream

          Including additional gay options isn’t free. Time and money spent on that development isn’t going into improving the rest of the game that appeals to the mainstream. It’s simple economics. Billy mentions romance novels below; although I’m skeptical you could convince enough women to buy a game to make it cost effective catering to them in a game like Andromeda, they at least exist. Gay men are about 1-2% of the population. There are more desi South Asians in the target market; it would make more economic sense to include Bollywood dance numbers than gay romance options.

          • NOTslow17mo

            Stop being an idiot. Adding romance options for more people is just good business. According to you games should only be designed for straight men to enjoy? That’s not exactly a message people are trying to get out there. The fact is, it’s relatively easy to incorporate gays into games–or, I don’t know, people who aren’t gay but like gay romances. My best friend plays as a female Ryder and romances women.

            Get your head out of your ass. Men play video games. And plenty of men like other men.

          • daniel_ream

            Telling lies in an angry, bitchy tone doesn’t make them any more true. It is self-evidently not good business or easy to incorporate into games, as we’ve already seen the additional work necessary to make the lesbian sex animations make some kind of sense. Again, work that _could_ be going into fixing the uncanny valley problems. Time and money are finite resources. And you know full well I never said games should only be designed for straight men, you mewling, mendacious twerp. I said that games are a business and have to be designed with return on investment in mind. Plenty of men do not, in fact, like other men. A very, very small percentage of men do, and an even tinier fraction of those buy AAA video games. Catering to them is pouring money down a drain, you mincing, entitled, self-aggrandizing queen.

          • NOTslow17mo

            No, that’s exactly what you’re saying. You are arguing that every video game should dedicate every last resource to appeasing the largest demographic of customers. Since straight men play video games the most, no time should be dedicated to appealing to other people–because it’s money down the train.

            I hate to burst your bubble, Tinkerbell, but this game has a worldwide release. In America alone there are 314 million people. By the most conservative estimates that’s still MILLIONS of people who fall into the category of ‘gay’ and plenty of gay people play games–in America alone. I’m gay and I bought a physical copy of the game along with a bunch of the merch because I’ve bought every iteration of this game upon release. I rebought some of them digitally. Rough estimate, between mailbags, merch, games, etc.–I alone have spent over a thousand dollars on the ME franchise. It happens to have a HUGE gay following. Also, because I like the company, I’ve tried DragonAge.

            Now, I bought these games BEFORE male gay romance was an option (which began in ME3). But the fact is, I’m much more invested when I know that there is at least some attention paid towards my particular interests. Kaidan, who required ABSOLUTELY NOTHING from the developer (as the romance was the same for male or female), had dialogue that fit much better with the male Shepard. And it was fantastic. Probably the best romance in the game. Cortez, a character (like Traynor) had a great backstory that was more worthwhile than Diana Allers BY A LONG SHOT–and you think that the time they put into him and Traynor were a waste of time?

            You’re an idiot. You’re an idiot because you don’t realize how many gay people loyally purchase ME and DA games. For the small investment of time they put into character design and voicing characters (some which run double duty as bisexual), they earn the patronage of hundreds of thousands of new customers.

            You don’t seem to even understand that game stability and testing aren’t even necessarily done by the same people. You’re like the idiot who complains that the government would have plenty of money to fund X by simply defunding Y–without any knowledge of how finances are actually located.

            The people of Bioware understand how to make an investment in their fanbase and earn customer loyalty.

            But, hey, two men making out really bothers you–so come up with some nonsensical reason to cut it out of video games to make yourself feel like less of a bigoted twerp.

          • daniel_ream

            Doubling down on hysterical shrieking doesn’t make you any less full of shit.

            I realize exactly how many gay people “loyally purchase ME and DA games”. It’s a ridiculously tiny number. You think the fact that _you_ buy a lot of ME stuff somehow makes up for the fact that gay men are a tiny little demographic in the world market. They’re not, and no amount of entitled drama queening will change that. But then, there’s a reason the term “drama queens” exists. Gay men always think everything revolves around them and their narcissistic obsession with sex.

            Also, I’ve done work for various video game companies, I know a number of senior people who have worked at Bioware, and your characterization of how video games are made is as full of shit as your understanding of market demographics. But I’m sure if you shout even louder and lie some more, you’ll totally convince more people that gay gamers aren’t an entitled bunch of hysterical narcissists.

          • NOTslow17mo

            LOL LOL LOL

            Here we go! “I know people at Bioware! I know all sorts of people!” Jesus Christ. I know people too. I know people who work at car dealerships–I guess that makes me an expert on automobiles!

            Yeah, YOU know everything–so I guess you should go tell your besties at Bioware that they’re wasting their time. You should go become the director, I mean, you already have so many connections.

            Lastly, your bias is showing. I’m a normal 33 y/o teacher without a lisp. I’m no more “sex obsessed” than your average straight guy. Yet, here you are screeching like an autistic that I’m being a drama queen? Because of how YOU are interpreting words on a screen? You’re reading your own bias into this discussion. You don’t like gays–dude, I get it. That’s fine, you’re allowed–but right now you’re arguing that you know more about producing video games than the people at Bioware–because you know people who worked at Bioware.

          • daniel_ream

            Jesus, there’s something deeply wrong with you. And they let you near children? *smh*

          • NOTslow17mo

            You should call your pals at Bioware and tell them about me.

          • NOTslow17mo

            Oh, a couple more things. They don’t dedicate much more money to lesbian sex scenes–since Peebee has the SAME ANIMATION regardless of which Ryder she’s banging.

            And just because I like dick doesn’t mean I’m mincing. I have a full and manly beard and I’m probably much more of a man than you could handle, sweetheart.

    • Disqusted

      I’ve seen plenty of people saying they are giving up on the series and are not buying this one, so your miniscule perception of the world is incorrect.

      • NOTslow17mo

        So, why are you listening to idiots who HAVE NOT PLAYED THE GAME?

        “Derp, I’m giving up on this series because of reviews–without playing it!” Well, then you’re an idiot, what can I say?

        • SevTheBear

          Well it’s his 60$ If the game is broken atm why would he waste money on it? That would just be stupid.

          • NOTslow17mo

            It’s not broken. I just finished it. It was fine.

          • Simon

            For what it’s worth I agree with what you are saying. People are blowing this way out of proportion, the reason? Because it’s mass effect. And that’s the only reason. And your right, skyrim is still buggy as hell now, years after release. The question is, how many other games are like mass effect? None. There are no other games quite like it, and if the facial animations need a few patches to fix, who cares? Your still playing something which is totally different to everything else, so why people don’t just enjoy it and stop whinging I cannot understand.

          • Dude, really? You don’t think that ME: Andromeda should have at least been graphically on par to ME1 in terms of post-processing, lighting and facial animation ranges? I mean, man come on… you expect people to pay $60 for a game that happens to be running on one of the most advanced game engines on the market and yet is still technologically inferior in many ways to a game that came out back in 2007? Dude… seriously?

          • Simon

            It’s being patched, so stop crying about it. When I bought skyrim when it first came out it was IMPOSSIBLE to create even a reasonably good looking female. At least you can do that with MEA. If you are so superficial that you don’t like the game for this reason why don’t you just not play it and stop beating on others who do.

          • When I bought skyrim when it first came out it was IMPOSSIBLE to create even a reasonably good looking female. At least you can do that with MEA.

            LOL. Lies. You have to use guides in order to make a half-way decent looking female in ME: Andromeda ’cause they’re all butt ugly. In Skyrim at least you had the tools to make a decent female if you put in the time. You didn’t even need mods for that.

            If you are so superficial that you don’t like the game for this reason why don’t you just not play it and stop beating on others who do.

            You can like whatever you want, but the game is technologically inferior to TONS of games that came out a decade ago. That’s a fact. This is moving the gaming industry backwards.

          • Simon

            Lies? I don’t think so. I remember it very well indeed.
            And is a few face animations your only basis for saying it is technically inferior to games made 10 years ago? You know what you just said there is bullshit. I did not comment on here to get into a forum based pissing contest with an idiot, I simply came on here to voice my opinion. It’s pricks like you that troll people like me when they simply give their opinion that are the reason ridiculous threads like this exist. Clearly you would rather spend your time trolling people and games that you don’t like on message boards rather than actually playing them. Get yourself a life and play a game that you actually enjoy. Why are you even on here? And honestly, who cares.

            Wow I just noticed that actually you are the author/ mod whatever of this page! You sad bastard lol do you get bullied by your wife or something? Hahahaha

          • And is a few face animations your only basis for saying it is technically inferior to games made 10 years ago? You know what you just said there is bullshit.

            No it’s not BS. This proves you’re wrong.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXphFnqhYoo&t=111s

            THAT is from 10 years ago.

            THIS is from 11 years ago.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pdjpO19gEU

            As I said, it’s not even BS. Andromeda just has some of the crappiest facial animations running on some of the best software technology (Frostbite) ever built.

            It’s pricks like you that troll people like me when they simply give their opinion that are the reason ridiculous threads like this exist.

            Wut? You’re telling people to stop crying and that you can’t make decent females in Skyrim. Here’s a simple video that blows your argument out of the water.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw_mMwd87hc

            Now go try to make a decent female in Andromeda WITHOUT using default head 9, because that’s the one everyone keeps using to make a halfway decent looking Ryder. Only one decent looking head. Pfft.

            You sad bastard lol do you get bullied by your wife or something? Hahahaha

            Bruh, stop peeping into my bedroom window!

          • Simon

            Lol very good except those are cinematic scenes of those games you posted. Look at the in game footage and tell me MEA is technically inferior to those 10 year old games! That’s why I said its bs and you and everyone else knows im right lol, I’ve called you, the forum and game expert out here admit it. But of course you won’t hahaha because you being the mod on this forum and having such a biased opinion about this game tells me that you have an agenda here to blast it for whatever reason.

            You and anything else you say can’t be trusted.

            Oh, and good job on telling me I can’t make my own face on MEA without a guide, and so to prove your point you post a skyrim face guide of your own lol!

            Oh dear

          • Oh, and good job on telling me I can’t make my own face on MEA without a guide, and so to prove your point you post a skyrim face guide of your own lol!

            You can make your own face in Andromeda, but it’ll look like trash. The Skyrim guide is to show you that you can actually make diverse faces that don’t look like trash and you don’t have to just use head no. 9 like in Andromeda.

            Lol very good except those are cinematic scenes of those games you posted.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_NAoNd4YyY

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUrXS8lCJ4U

            https://youtu.be/N2AThJPbxV4?t=333

            In-engine cinematics with gameplay. Still runs circles around Andromeda.

            Look at the in game footage and tell me MEA is technically inferior to those 10 year old games!

            Yeah… it is. Aside from the environmental graphics it’s a pretty huge step back in many areas: no proper post-processing, lack of ambient occlusion, improper color contrasting, lack of specular highlights, lack of self-shadowing, lack of multiple light passes.

            Heck, LA Noire completely trounces Andromeda as far as animations, dialogue sequences, cinematic camera angles and lighting is concerned.

            https://youtu.be/41p7L3oOdcs

            I’ve called you, the forum and game expert out here admit it. But of course you won’t hahaha because you being the mod on this forum and having such a biased opinion about this game tells me that you have an agenda here to blast it for whatever reason.

            Maybe because it stepped into a time machine and it took Mass Effect’s quality, which used to be on the level of Stefan, and turned it into Steve Urkel.

          • Simon

            The preset I used is preset 1, not preset 9.
            Claire siobhan has posted a guide showing three great faces using presets 1,5 and 7. None of those are 9 which as your bullshit states is apparently the only decent preset. You don’t know what your talking about, I rest my case.

            Plus as a mod you should really be replying to what people say in their posts not ignoring the main point of them to force your own agenda.

            How far have you got into the game I wonder?

          • The preset I used is preset 1, not preset 9.
            Claire siobhan has posted a guide showing three great faces using presets 1,5 and 7. None of those are 9 which as your bullshit states is apparently the only decent preset.

            Pics or it didn’t happen.

            Plus as a mod you should really be replying to what people say in their posts not ignoring the main point of them to force your own agenda.

            I don’t even know what we were talking about anymore. This convo is almost a week old. lol

          • NOTslow17mo

            It means a lot because several of these people have actually said that they haven’t even played it yet.

          • SevTheBear

            As you said, it’s Mass Effect, a series many love. People just didn’t expected an unfinished one for 60$ But I guess if people wait 1-2 months it will be 30-40$ instead.

          • SevTheBear

            Unfinished means it ain’t the 60$ for a lot of people. So they better fix it.

          • NOTslow17mo

            Having glitches doesn’t mean “unfinished.” People too liberally use this word now.

          • SevTheBear

            glitches ain’t it’s only problem. But how about you just go back to the game and stop fan defend it with people who ain’t gonna agree with you anyway 😉

          • NOTslow17mo

            Like a lot of games, it does have problems. But people here are crying about a couple of facial animations–when the game is SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT.

            Some lines of dialogue stink and Sara is inferior to Scott as far as line delivery goes. The Nomad and open world needlessly extends the game–along with really irritating and unrewarding side quests (which are optional, but tacked on feeling). Some of the animations are off and some of the NPC’s don’t show as much care in their development as other characters.

            That being said, it’s all a bunch of minor criticisms in the face of what is a gigantic game with a variety of planets to explore. It has a great combat system and the storyline is pretty tight regardless of the fact that many of the squadmates aren’t up to Mass Effect 2’s cast of characters.

            It has flaws. I played the game–unlike so many of you here–and I am aware of what they are. I am not saying it’s perfect, I’m saying the level of hate and anger people have over relatively MINOR flaws is ridiculous for this game. Skyrim was universally loved and named Game of the Year. That doesn’t mean nobody every criticized it on Reddit, but it does mean that people were willing to look past its minor imperfections in the light of all the things it does correctly.

            Mass Effect Andromeda does a lot correctly. It’s a fantastically fun game. The main missions and loyalty missions all feel like vintage Mass Effect. Some of the characters I thought I’d detest (Peebee) I actually liked. Some are legitimately great (like Drack, who is awesome–but not as good as Grunt). The chase at the end of the game, where you’re chasing the Archon’s ship on Meridian while jets fly in to support you actually gives chills.

            If you don’t want to play it because people have dissuaded you, fine. I’m not going to convince you online. But I refuse to sit silently while people paint this game as a careless mess because of stupid minor flaws that are overlooked in other games in a similar vein to Mass Effect.

          • SevTheBear

            And yet you keep coming back try doing so xD

            Dude, if you like it’s fine. The rest of us either wait for it to be fixed og move on to the next game that we feel is worth out money and time. Go to Reddit or another BIG website and debate with the rest of them. You ain’t gonna find anyone her agreeing with you with that fanboy attitude.

            That half the planet is okay with buying unfinished games tells me that people are to dumb or don’t care they get screwed over by the devs and publishers. I have skipped of waited months for plenty of games because they were either broken or unfinished. Bioware and EA knew what they were shipping out and thought they could get away with it. And they almost did.

          • NOTslow17mo

            Ugh. Now you’re on your soapbox about companies releasing games unfinished. It IS finished. It’s perfectly fine to play. Bugs pop up in every major game. If you are willing to wait a year to play every AAA game, fine. Go for it.

            Companies don’t ship games with bugs out of spite. They do it to meet strict deadline because they have millions sunk into advertising among other things. This game, if never patched, would still be perfectly decent.

          • SevTheBear

            I don’t wait a year for every game. What are you talking about? Now you are just making stuff -__-‘

            Because some companies do release unfinished games and as consumers we need to let them know that their don’t get away with that when we pay 60-80$ for it for their products. If they fix the game withing the next 2 months it’s a good thing.

          • NOTslow17mo

            btw, saying a game is BROKEN means it’s unplayable…not that it has a couple animation glitches. Christ, you’re dramatic.

          • SevTheBear

            says you xD

          • NOTslow17mo

            There are no reports of the game being unplayable. So–says everyone.

    • Jim

      Shill confirmed. That or super mega fanboy that can’t accept reality.

  • MONAD

    So this is how a developer dies. With autistic screeching.

    • Disqusted

      I dunno, I think they probably paid the new staff a low salary, kept the extra budget money, and are now raking in profits because they didn’t spend much on the actual game and tons of people are still buying it at a high price.

      It might actually be an effective business strategy, especially because they had the popularity of the original trilogy to carry them. They only need to improve the Androgyna sequel slightly to satisfy consumers, and they can keep doing that with each sequel to rake in even greater profits.

      • This is a sad possibility that might also be true.

        • Raging Papist

          Indeed. 40 million for a AAA title isn’t actually all that much. Which also adds to the reason why they would outsource things like multiplayer and even basic facial animations. Then, if you give the game to your “c” team developers who you don’t have to pay much, and give them 5 years (frankly longer than the other teams would need), EA is going to make a tidy profit.

          It sucks. But at least we have objective evidence now about how the SJW/PC culture actually is strangling creativity and the lives of devs.

          Bioware is converged. Once a company is converged, it will sacrifice anything, including its own economic feasibility, to serve the narrative. It would rather be dissolved than go against the narrative. We just have to hope that eventually gamers get tired of it, and EA continually works Bioware to death.

          • Disqusted

            Yeah. I think if they knew they only had 40 million they shouldn’t have had such a huge scope. It’s not like it’s Bigotware’s first game either, they should know better.

  • Keystone

    Pissing in the wind at this point. The (irreparable) damage to the series, and the developer, has been done.

    At this point it would be easier if Bioware just threw itself into the EA corpse pile.

    • NOTslow17mo

      Stop being melodramatic. The game is selling very well and anyone who has played it knows that it’s actually a pretty fantastic game. The next Mass Effect Andromeda will build off of this one and probably be even better (look at ME2 compared to the original ME).

      • it’s actually a pretty fantastic game.

        It has solid combat and pretty good looking outdoor environments. That’s far from fantastic.

        Every other aspect of the game is overshadowed in quality by either the previous Mass Effect titles or other games running on Frostbite. Any game with regressive features is already, objectively speaking, far from “fantastic”.

        • NOTslow17mo

          No, it’s a pretty FANTASTIC game. People seem to want PERFECTION and that’s simply not going to happen. People are whining about Mass Effect Andromeda’s facial animations because they want to find something to complain about. Nobody criticizes Fallout 4 for having thousands more bugs and completely crap facial animations and voice acting.

          I’m not sure what you mean about “regressive features.”

          I agree that the story from other Mass Effect games was better–but not the actual combat/gameplay. Combat in ME1 wasn’t very good. The game was a pretty big mess, but was lifted up by its story. ME2 and ME3 had strong points and weak points. I would say Andromeda has several moments on par with the other two games. It’s an ambitious game and it is flawed.

          But Fallout 4 was ambitious and flawed too. So was Skyrim. Some of the BEST games around have flaws–often glaring ones. It doesn’t make the games any less fantastic.

          • Disqusted

            Nobody said anything about perfection. They’re comparing to previous Mass Effects that were fine. If your latest game looks like shit compared to 10 year old prequels, you are doing something wrong.

            Look, I create 3d characters and animate faces/bodies too. I can do a better job than Mass Effect Androgyna, and I don’t have a 40 million dollar budget or a huge dev team. I even surprised my college lecturers with how believable I made and animated my characters’ eyes, something that Mass Effect Androgyna has completely failed on. Because any character artist worth their salt knows the eyes are damn important.

            Fallout 4 and Skyrim have modders to fix their crappiness. Mass Effect Androgyna doesn’t support modding like those games do, as far as I know.

            Edit: I should also point out I can’t compare to the really talented artists out there. It probably says a lot that someone like me, with no budget, can make better faces than Mass Effect Androgyna.

          • NOTslow17mo

            Really? Because of what? Foster Addison? Mass Effect is more than the face of a few NPC’s. The game is sprawling and gorgeous.

          • Disqusted

            The ENVIRONMENTS are sprawling and gorgeous. Seriously, are you two years old? There’s little other explanation for how you can be so blind and tasteless.

            I gave Mass Effect Androgyna a chance and tried it out yesterday. It’s WORSE THAN I EXPECTED. The GUI is horribly clunky as shit, and difficult to read. The camera in-game is floating so high up that it makes me want to throw up. It makes the game unplayable for me. How do you f**k up such basic shit?

            Character customization is better than before but still leaves a lot to be desired. No eyebrow customization, at all. I have never seen such stupid looking eyeliner/eyeshadow options. They all look horribly amateurish and lazy, like they just stamped a premade brush onto the face texture. One of the eye makeup options is literally just a plain rectangular block. Never seen anything so ugly and lazy before. Even modders aren’t that lazy.

            Character facial animations are far from “pretty fantastic”, and this is AFTER they’ve been “improved”. Lips still move way too much. Eyes are still wide open and pupils/irises are too small. My character’s lips keep moving very high up and looks terrible.

            I noticed other animation issues, such as character basic head/neck movement lacking basic curves/ease in/out for smoothness. That takes like 2 seconds to do.

            And as I thought, the lighting is bad. The characters faces are often in dark shadows to the point that I can’t even make out their faces clearly.

            Timing in the opening sequence is really bad. That shot of the ship flying by took forever. It was 3-4x longer than it should have been.

            The only things I thought were good are the environments and environmental objects, and possibly the audio, but I haven’t heard much of it yet. I will admit I was surprised that they have actual options for customizing graphics and mouse smoothing, which is a rarity in PC gaming nowadays. But the options were easy to miss because of how shitty the GUI is.

            I’m seeing people saying they can still enjoy the game. If you can, then good for you. But this is obviously huge steps BACKWARD for the series. Considering the time they had and money spent, there is no f**king excuse.

          • jlenoconel

            Mass Effect Andromeda isn’t selling well anymore. Its made a steep drop in the gaming charts.

          • NOTslow17mo

            The press jumped on the hate bandwagon for this game since day one. It’s not a surprise. But look at the morons here–most say, “It’s terrible! I hate it!”–even though they never actually played the game.

          • jlenoconel

            I’m not saying it doesn’t have any redeeming qualities, but the game is obviously subpar and was rushed out of the door in the hopes that “gamers will buy it anyway.” That’s the general attitude with the AAA gaming industry now. Release now, patch later. All for money.

          • No, it’s a pretty FANTASTIC game.

            The science powering video game technology disagrees with you; BioWare disagrees with you. Otherwise Bioware wouldn’t have had to make a statement about bringing the game’s animations, graphics and playability up to today’s quality standards.

            People are whining about Mass Effect Andromeda’s facial animations because they want to find something to complain about.

            Uh no, objectively speaking the animations are worse than Mass Effect 1 from a decade ago. From lighting, to post-processing, to facial gesticulation, to lip-synching… it’s all technologically inferior to a game released back in 2007. As I said, the science disagrees with you.

            Nobody criticizes Fallout 4 for having thousands more bugs and completely crap facial animations and voice acting.

            https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/3sbp1o/why_is_fallout_4_getting_poor_user_reviews_on/

            http://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/496881136899803614/

            https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/3tvwd1/the_critic_scores_for_fallout_4_are_way_higher/

            Google search, my friend… it soothes the storm of ignorance upon which furious posts sail the waves of discussion.

            I agree that the story from other Mass Effect games was better–but not the actual combat/gameplay. Combat in ME1 wasn’t very good.

            I’m pretty sure I said the combat was better in Andromeda? — looks like I said it has solid combat. But yeah, the combat is obviously better in Andromeda.

            It’s an ambitious game and it is flawed.

            Actually… no… it’s not. Despite the hate it’s received, No Man’s Sky was very ambitious. Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild was also very ambitious, both gameplay wise and from a technological standpoint.

            But Fallout 4 was ambitious and flawed too. So was Skyrim. Some of the BEST games around have flaws–often glaring ones. It doesn’t make the games any less fantastic.

            Like 70% of Mass Effect’s appeal is in the cinematic dialogue and storytelling, and a lot of that relies on quality dialogue and facial animations between character interactions… and that was Andromeda’s biggest drawback. It absolutely does make it less fantastic.

          • NOTslow17mo

            Bioware never disparaged their game, you’re making that up.

            And I admit to using hyperbole about Skyrim and Fallout 4, but let me be clear now: Both games were lauded as some of the best open world games ever. Skyrim won numerous GOTY awards. And it was FULL of bugs. Yes, whiners complain about EVERY SINGLE GAME on reddit and steam. If you’re going to reddit or steam, get prepared to hear little else other than complaining.

            As far as the ME combat comment–why are you looking at my comment through a lens that requires EVERYTHING I say to be a disagreement? No, you’re correct about the combat. It’s better. Far better. And considering that’s HALF THE GAME, you’d think that’d be more important to you.

            No Man’s Sky was ambitious? HAHAHA! Yeah, that’s ALL IT WAS. It delivered next to nothing it promised. Zelda was ambitious? REALLY? It seems pretty by the book to me.

            And you say the facial animations make it less fantastic. So you agree it’s fantastic? Then what are you arguing with me about?

          • Bioware never disparaged their game, you’re making that up.

            BioWare didn’t have to disparage the game for them to disagree with you about it being fantastic — they simply had to admit that they had to rework essential key parts of the game that should have been finished at launch.

            Both games were lauded as some of the best open world games ever. Skyrim won numerous GOTY awards. And it was FULL of bugs.

            Dude, come on? No matter what you or I think about Skyrim, from a technological standpoint, it’s still one of the most ambitious games ever made and there hasn’t been a game quite as large or as emergent in the AAA space released since then that is like it (barring Fallout 4). This goes back to what I was saying about the science behind a game… even if the game sucks, if it’s ambitious and it delivers some smidgen of that to the audience, then it’s something people will recognize and laud them for.

            Zelda was ambitious? REALLY? It seems pretty by the book to me.

            It does look by the book, and I’m not a Legend of Zelda fan, but it’s very ambitious in how it incorporates exploration and emergent problem solving in an open-world game. Usually it’s only Early Access indie titles that feature the kind of stuff that you can do in Breath of the Wild.

            And you say the facial animations make it less fantastic. So you agree it’s fantastic? Then what are you arguing with me about?

            Ahahahaha… now you’re just putting words in my mouth. I never said the terri-bad facial animations make it less fantastic as a standard of already being a fantastic game, I was deconstructing your predication of “less fantastic”, and explained that by virtue of the animations being bad, it objectively does make the game “less fantastic” even according to your standards of “fantastic”. I absolutely do not think the game is fantastic, though.

          • NOTslow17mo

            Really? Admitting that there are bugs is tantamount to saying they don’t believe that their game is fantastic? REALLY? That runs counter to literally EVERYTHING they’ve said up to this point.

            No kidding about Skyrim. It was amazing. It wasn’t EARTH SHATTERING as many games like it, running on the exact same engine, were released prior to it. It was chalk full of bugs–but that didn’t stop it from being great. From a technical standpoint, it was a natural step forward for the franchise, but it certainly wasn’t technically groundbreaking.

            Right, emergent problem solving in an open world game. Nintendo hasn’t been doing that already in past Zelda–and Mario–games. Once again, Zelda is the natural progression for the next iteration. It’s not overly ambitious or groundbreaking. This one is ‘bigger’–but it is what Zelda has been for years.

            All you have been doing is whining about animations. That’s literally your biggest most consistent complaint. When you’re not busy getting characters names wrong in your write-up (you’re welcome for that correction by the way), you’re whining about things that don’t affect core gameplay. I would accept criticism of this game, if something that you complained about wasn’t present in a thousand other games that aren’t held to these standards.

            MEA has issues. It’s needlessly long because of its open world format, full of idiotic repetitive fetch questing and scanning. But, they’re all optional, so I don’t feel it detracts. The animation might not be PERFECT, but PERFECT isn’t a standard you can judge a game with this much detail and this much dialogue by. We don’t expect Bethesda to be perfect–so why should we expect Bioware to be perfect. They are dedicated to making the game BETTER and dealing with glitches. And now you think that’s them admitting that they have a game that isn’t fantastic.

            Yeah, customer support or servicing your game is now tantamount to admitting your game sucks. You heard it here first, folks.

          • I would accept criticism of this game, if something that you complained about wasn’t present in a thousand other games that aren’t held to these standards.

            Except thousands of other games don’t base their gameplay on cinematic dialogue and character interactions, Mass Effect does! That’s the point.

            It’s like saying a fighting game has poor fighting animations and using the excuse “Well a lot of games have poor fighting animations!” Sure, but it’s made worse when it’s in a FIGHTING GAME!

            The bread and butter of Mass Effect is in its character interactions and that’s where its biggest flaws are.

            The animation might not be PERFECT, but PERFECT isn’t a standard you can judge a game with this much detail and this much dialogue by.

            No one’s asking for the game to be perfect, but by gosh man you at least expect it to be better than a game released within the same franchise A DECADE AGO!

            And now you think that’s them admitting that they have a game that isn’t fantastic.

            When it’s admitting that they have to fix one of the core tenets of what makes Mass Effect Mass Effect, then yes… absolutely. It’s like a racing sim dev admitting that their racing is garbage and they’ll spend the next few months making sure it plays like an actual racing game.

            Yeah, customer support or servicing your game is now tantamount to admitting your game sucks. You heard it here first, folks.

            You sure did, ace. And you can take that hot dog and stick it in a bun.

          • NOTslow17mo

            If you don’t think the animation or graphics are better than the original games, you haven’t played the original games lately. ME1 was as stilted and awkward as it gets. The faces were fine, for the time, but lack the texture and detail of 2 and 3–and Andromeda is an improvement over 3, without a doubt. I’m not the biggest fan of the current squad, but Christ–they look fantastic. The NPC’s that aren’t squadmates are the bigger issue, and did you look at the NPC’s from previous ME’s? They’re not exactly stellar looking.

            Mass Effect is a role playing/shooter. The shooter portion of the game is the best it has ever been. The role playing decisions are pretty decent. The character interactions are, for the most part, pretty interesting.

            You’re whining about something that has been so blown out of proportion it’s idiotic. This game has more NPC’s and dialogue than all three ME games combined. If you play through every side mission plus the main quest–you’re looking at a longer playtime than all three Mass Effects put together. But, hey, there are some graphical flaws, so let’s all whine endlessly about it and pout.

            You’re the same breed of idiot who complained about ME3 being a “crappy game” because it didn’t have the ending that you wanted, ignoring the hours upon hours of fantastic storytelling leading up to that point.

            The fact is, they will keep making improvements throughout the course of the next couple of years. Like other games as gigantic as this one, it will eventually be more stable and will get its bugs worked out. But, until then, you can keep whining about some inane nonsense like Foster Addison’s stupid looking face–while completely ignoring the fact that you spend about two minutes total interacting with her in a 70+ hour game.

          • ME1 was as stilted and awkward as it gets. The faces were fine, for the time, but lack the texture and detail of 2 and 3–and Andromeda is an improvement over 3, without a doubt.

            https://youtu.be/rnLQe4kcsQI

            https://youtu.be/NS0vsYDV3H0

            Ten years… ten year difference between those two and the advancements are extremely minimal. Sure, texture resolution is higher because the RAM quadrupled. Obviously the meshes are better (somewhat) but the faces are still just as stilted and actually show FEWER ranges of emotive gesticulation.

            Let me put this into perspective for you: 1992 – 2002

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJvvy6RKaCE

            https://youtu.be/w5LBZC9p9s8

            2006 – 2016.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY-i3rZR43U

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dPD22hChiQ

            The fact ME1 looks just as good as ME: Andromeda in those scenes is a farce to the game design industry. Period.

            This game has more NPC’s and dialogue than all three ME games combined

            And when they look awful and are poorly designed, what’s the point?

            Quality > quantity.

            You’re the same breed of idiot who complained about ME3 being a “crappy game” because it didn’t have the ending that you wanted, ignoring the hours upon hours of fantastic storytelling leading up to that point.

            Great strawman there ace, but I didn’t give a sh*t about the ME3 ending.

            The fact is, they will keep making improvements throughout the course of the next couple of years. Like other games as gigantic as this one, it will eventually be more stable and will get its bugs worked out.

            This game isn’t gigantic, though. It’s just packed full of bad looking NPCs with a whole lot of dialogue, recycling gameplay loops already pre-designed for them in the first three Mass Effect games, running on an in-house engine with fully-paid for support. How on Earth did they manage to funk that up?

          • NOTslow17mo

            The game IS gigantic. There are four gigantic open worlds, several smaller missions, and an asteroid. Not to mention the main quest maps, which are huge. It’s very big. And the game looks MUCH better. I played the original trilogy on a 100 inch screen. I played this on the same 100 inch screen. Trust me, its VERY different.

          • The game IS gigantic. There are four gigantic open worlds, several smaller missions, and an asteroid. Not to mention the main quest maps, which are huge. It’s very big.

            Right, but that’s scale. That doesn’t make the game itself “big”. A lot of games have massive maps with a lot of repetitive loops. That doesn’t mean the game is necessarily gigantic in terms of playability. Look at Arma or any of the number of survival games out there with multiple planets to visit and little to do. You essentially have a lot of small, repetitive hooks sprinkled across really large maps. It’s nothing like, say, GTA, where there are a bunch of different activities to do across the open world, or Sleeping Dogs, or Assassin’s Creed.

            Simply having a map designer make really large maps doesn’t really mean much when the gameplay loops are rather minimalistic.

            And the game looks MUCH better. I played the original trilogy on a 100 inch screen. I played this on the same 100 inch screen. Trust me, its VERY different.

            I’m pretty sure we’ve already agreed that the game’s environments and atmospheric visuals are its best asset. I’m not doubting that at all.

          • Disqusted

            If they thought the game was “fantastic” they wouldn’t be wasting time trying to fix the shittiness. If you can’t see that, you’re flat out delusional, or a troll.

            I would question any dev that strongly conveys to audiences that they personally believe their game is “fantastic”. Good artists are always trying to improve and know their faults. They don’t act like they’re the best.

            They say, “we worked hard and hope you like it”. They don’t say “our game is fantastic, you will like it”. People who say the latter are usually scammers.

          • SevTheBear

            If it’s so FANTASTIC why do they then need 2 months to fix it? It’s a cinematic experience first and action game second. So the messed up facial and body animations seem to be a major problem + the writing is a huge step backward for the series. As one of my friends said
            ” The writing sure ain’t ME1 or ME2 quality that’s for sure”.

            MEA does indeed have better combat and most of the worlds and environment looks awesome. But what good does that if the rest is broken? look I have guilty pleasures to, but I don’t ignore their flaws and defend them like a hardcore fanboy. Someone at Bioware and EA fucked it BIG time and now the team left behind pay the price.

            Dude… plenty of people has given Fallout 3, 4 and Skyrim A LOT of shit for their problems. The only thing that has saved them is the option for mods.

          • NOTslow17mo

            Oh, right, I forgot. Every game is 100% w/out flaws these days upon arrival. It didn’t take Skyrim dozens of patches and two extra years to fix…a game that was named GAME OF THE YEAR.

            I’m not sure why people think that facial animation glitches and body animation glitches are things that are game-breaking? What world are you living in? EVERY GAME I have played in the past year has required MULTIPLE patches, sometimes several within the first week. What game these days is released w/out a day one patch? It’s not a great practice, but that’s the reality we’re living in. There are flaws. They’re being patched. Stop whining.

            ME 1, 2, and 3 were FULL of bugs–which were patched. You’re looking at the past through rose-tinted glasses.

            The fact is that people overlook the issues with Skyrim and Fallout. Yes, whiners complain on reddit. It’s reddit. But, overall, the attitude towards these games is POSITIVE, not NEGATIVE, despite all of their bugs. No, not just on PC, but also on consoles. Skyrim was played by 11.5 million people on consoles. Less than 3 million bought the PC version (we don’t know STEAM figures, but it’s not going to rival consoles regardless). You couldn’t mod Skyrim’s original version. BEFORE patches it received a 96% DESPITE the bugs WITHOUT the ability to mod.

            So stuff this mod garbage already.

          • SevTheBear

            Holy fuck are you in fanboy defends mode xD

            Dude, I have NEVER said any of the other games were bug free. I even said that people gave Fallout and Skyrim A LOT of shit because it was broken as fuck. But yeah the fanboys in that camp forgive way to easy, I agree. I think it’s BS to that Fallout and Skyrim got GOTY as well. No one should be okay with buying an unfinished game at launch and I will never understand why ANYONE would defend that.

            Again if NOTHING was wrong with MEA why do they then need to patch it 😉 The animations lightning needs to be fixed, they look horrible in the year of 2017.

            So take it easy with the fanboy rage okay. You are not proving anything by going ape shit like that 😉

          • NOTslow17mo

            I never said NOTHING was wrong with it–it has glitches–LIKE EVERY OTHER AAA GAME ON THE MARKET TODAY. That’s my entire point. GET IT?

          • SevTheBear

            You keep miss reading people replies xD and what it is with you and the heavy use of CAPSLOCK 😛 ?

          • Gozu Tennoh

            Its a technique SJW cucks use to stagnate the argument. The scumbag knows the games crap and isnt actually addressing any points.

          • SevTheBear

            Pretty much. But it has been a while since I have seen this much fanboy defends for a game. I have plenty guilty pleasures. But none of them as unfinished as MEA, Fallout or Skyrim the first year it was out. They had all from bugs to shitty gameplay but great story and reversed. I can’t count how many games I have either skipped or waited a year for it to be fixed and fall in price. But they are plenty.

          • NOTslow17mo

            I use capslock to accentuate words because I don’t have easy access to italics and accentuating words helps convey tone, which isn’t naturally conveyed well through text.

          • SevTheBear

            Yes yes

          • Disqusted

            You use Bigotware bucks to finance your keyboard. We understand.

          • Disqusted

            He can’t read because he’s clearly two years old. “Mommy mommy Mass Effy Abobobo FANTASTIC!”

          • Disqusted

            That guy is totally insane. I think he’s actually 2 years old and using his mommy and spell check to help him write.

          • SevTheBear

            Let’s just say the fandom is strong with this one 😉

          • jlenoconel

            I played Fallout 4 once and haven’t picked it up since lol.

          • SevTheBear

            Played Fallout 3. It was okay but not one I would play again. Then came Skyrim… got boring after a few hours where I got lazy and used cheats to get to the ending and done. The next Elder Scroll and Fallout needs to do something really new + Co-op before I am ever gonna give a shit again about their RPG series

          • jlenoconel

            I liked Oblivion, Skyrim, and Fallout 3. Something just seemed… off, about Fallout 4. I’ll give it another chance, but yeah, we need something new, and not the same old, same old.

          • SevTheBear

            I hear ya

          • jlenoconel

            You’re defending a shitty game where they couldn’t even get the facial animations right. The game doesn’t even have the character’s heads moving when they speak. That’s pretty bad. Skyrim is a bit different because its a sandbox game. Mass Effect is open world, but its not the same as Skyrim or the Elder Scrolls series.

          • NOTslow17mo

            It “couldn’t get the facial animation right”? Did you play the game? I’d estimate the facial animations are fine, if not excellent, the vast majority of the time. You realize that the captures people are posting of bad facial animations are a few examples from a game that is literally about 70 hours in length, 12 hours just for a speedy run of the main mission stuff?

          • jlenoconel

            I’ll eventually give this game a chance, but only when it hits the $5 bargain bin and all the bugs and stuff are fixed. The SJW bull is enough for me to not really want to bother at all, but it may still be worth it if I can get it for cheap.

          • SevTheBear

            5$ and nothing better to play. Sounds fair to me

          • jlenoconel

            I got To The Moon from Humble Bundle for like $2 and apparently its a beautiful game. I’m looking forward to playing that when I eventually get the chance.

          • SevTheBear

            Havn’t played it myself, but the music is pretty good

          • Salt Miner

            Alright fess up. How many Shekels did BioWare pay you to shill for them, cupcake?

          • NOTslow17mo

            Right, I must be a shill because I have a dissenting opinion. You sound like a Democrat.

          • Salt Miner

            HAHAHA Democrat? Me? But I’m neither Socialist, Feminist nor Taliban Regime. Sorry to disappoint shill.

          • NOTslow17mo

            I didn’t say you WERE a democrat–I said you sound like one.

          • Salt Miner

            And your a shill, so we’re even 😉

          • Disqusted

            You do realize the fact that you’re deflecting accusations by labelling people instead of providing a valid explanation makes you even more suspicious and less legitimate?

          • Disqusted

            No, you must be a shill because you have no valid arguments and are just heaping frothing blind praise. You might be the most obvious shill I’ve ever seen. Or the biggest fanboy in the entire universe.

      • Disqusted

        From what I’ve heard, it’s selling better than I thought it would, but it’s obviously not selling as well as it could have, and the reactions seem to be very mixed. Some people saying the writing is really bad, others saying the game is very glitchy, and some people are just enjoying the shitshow.

        People who want to believe it’s “pretty fantastic” are why the industry has been increasingly pooping out low quality crap. There’s no need to spend money on talented artists or programmers when desperate consumers will lap up anything and defend their bad decisions for them.

        • Part of me thinks people are buying it to experience the awfulness and laugh at it with friends.

          • RichardGristle

            I never had any plans on purchasing it as I’m not an ME fan, but I’ve spent a considerable amount of time on Youtube and on gaming sites reading about this game. Without the lulz I would have ignored it entirely.

          • Disqusted

            That’s why I’m interested in it. It’s sad because I would have been interested in it as a game if it wasn’t so crappy on so many levels.

        • NOTslow17mo

          Have you played the game? I actually PLAYED THE GAME. It’s fantastic. It’s not fantastic because it’s “good enough.” It’s a fantastic game. I played it from beginning to end. It is FLAWED, but it is a great game.

          • Disqusted

            I played it yesterday, and it’s f**king horrible to me. Again, I emphasize that I made better quality character assets years ago on my own, with little experience.

            You might want to expand your vocab and learn more words than “fantastic”.

          • NOTslow17mo

            Then you suck at video games because the combat is fantastic and the camera is actually perfect.

            If you’re complaining about the camera–I truly don’t believe that you’ve played it.

      • RichardGristle

        “anyone who has played it knows that it’s actually a pretty fantastic game.”

        Well, except the 51 reviewers on Meta.

        It seems to be a very average game that could have been fantastic had they spent their time and money a little more wisely.

        • NOTslow17mo

          The fact is most people whining haven’t played the game and hopped on the hate bandwagon long before it ever arrived on shelves. People played the first hour and went, “Well, that’s it!”

          The truth of the matter is that by the end of the game, it was clearly, definitively Mass Effect. And each planet adds more to the story and gameplay.

          • SevTheBear

            Some people will buy it when they fix it. Sounds fair to me.

          • Disqusted

            According to NOTshill2yo there’s nothing to fix though. It’s “FANTASTIC”.

          • SevTheBear
          • Not really dude. It is as far away from mass effect as you are from being legit.

          • NOTslow17mo

            Derp de derp.

          • Poor sad dumb thing you…

          • Disqusted

            NOT slow 17 mo NOT slow 17 mo

          • Disqusted

            The fact is you don’t know the facts and are making shit up. The truth of the matter is that you’re full of shit.

            You have to be a huge asshole to pull facts our of your ass, despite so much contrary evidence. Let me guess, you work for the mainstream media as a “professional journalist”? If not, it’d be right up your alley.

      • Shows that you know nothing about anything you drone. Bioware have been stated that Mass Effect Andromeda is a one time thing. They never planned to make another Mass Effect game and after the failure of Andromeda they won’t.

        • NOTslow17mo

          You’re an idiot. It ends on a cliffhanger you babbling retard. And it’s selling extremely well. Just stop. You’re embarrassing yourself.

          • My goodness You are either an moron, troll, or both.

            Look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N74WGIdjZTY
            Bioware states that Mass Effect Andromeda will be a stand alone game. Please stop being retarded.

          • NOTslow17mo

            Wow, you’re a complete RETARD. They’re talking about having a complete narrative within the course of ONE GAME. That means they introduce a plot and complete it by the end of the game–unlike the original Mass Effect which introduced the Reapers and carried that story thread through THREE GAMES. By the end of this game, the Archon story is FINISHED. The story about settling the planets is FINISHED.

            That doesn’t mean they’re not going to have a sequel. AT NO POINT DO THEY SAY THIS.

            Do you not know what a stand alone game is? It means that it doesn’t require other games to complete the story–unlike the ME trilogy, which required THREE GAMES to go through the Reaper story.

            At NO POINT did they EVER say they wouldn’t have a sequel. If you actually played the game, you’d know that not only is there DEFINITELY going to be a sequel (as there is a CLEAR cliffhanger during the credits), they purposefully set up long term stories and choices that can’t possibly pay off at the end of Andromeda.

            Your inability to correctly understand the English language is not my fault.

          • Wow you are really retarded. HAHAHAH! Do you not know Bioware is dead? Most of all the top staff jumped ship. Besides this game failed hard. Their will be no new Bioware game kid. Ask your boyfriend to buy you a good game like NieR: Automata. :^)

          • NOTslow17mo

            It topped the UK sales chart and is selling better than the original ME. Physical sales are down compared to 2 and 3, but digital sales are way up (unfortunately exact numbers from digital sales are not given).

            Keep this reply fresh in your memory, retard. In a couple year, when the sequel comes out, remember it and think of me.

          • SevTheBear

            Why would he think of you in a year? I am pretty sure he has better things to do at that point xD

          • NOTslow17mo

            Because then he’ll remember how idiotic he sounded. And I didn’t say a year, necessarily. It might be a couple. But a sequel will come out.

          • SevTheBear

            Time will tell

          • NOTslow17mo

            Indeed.

          • Don’t forget me baby.

          • NOTslow17mo

            Never.

          • NOTslow17mo

            LOL! This is non-news. In case you didn’t know–Montreal was FOUNDED as a support studio. Mass Effect has an average of 2-3 years between its first three games–and five years between 3 and Andromeda. Dragon Age’s team was broken up, too. Does that mean there’s no more Dragon Age?

            This is idiotic speculation based on a bunch of hack journalists who seem to think relocating developers and putting Montreal back to its default status is something unexpected.

          • Yeah bitch Dragon Age and mass effect is dead. Bioware is dead.

          • NOTslow17mo

            Wow, you’re retarded.

          • Nope just realistic.

          • NOTslow17mo

            You’re realistic in thinking that a game, like Dragon Age: Inquisition, which won GAME OF THE YEAR and went on to become the most successful launch in Bioware history, won’t get a sequel?

            You think they’ve spent time and money teasing DA4 for the past year just for fun?

            You think Mass Effect, as a franchise is over–when ME3 brought in 200m in revenue in one month?

            All because Kotaku has an article reading deeply into a rather ambiguous statement put out by Bioware…

            But you’re realistic. Okay. And Uncharted won’t ever get another game either. Right.

          • Uncharted is over for good reasons. No Bioware, no games from them, simple as that. EA killed many studios. Bioware is their newest victims. ha!

          • NOTslow17mo

            You have a reading comprehension problem. Montreal is being converted back to an assist studio–as it was originally intended and founded. Bioware Edmonton and Austin are still around. Bioware is confirmed to be working on new Destiny-like MMO.

            And Uncharted isn’t over. I guarantee.

          • Continue to be delusional child. Bioware is dead.

          • NOTslow17mo
          • You should have read it kido as it is a spinoff being written by a new guy. May be a mobile game. Not a true Dragon Age game. try again fago.

          • NOTslow17mo

            They literally mentioned that it may take place in Tevinter. Which means they’re talking about the sequel. You’re dense.

          • Just because it is in tevinter doesn’t mean it is a mainline RPG kido.

          • NOTslow17mo

            You just said Bioware is dead. It has an untitled new release and a writer just said he’s working on the next Dragon Age game. You’re dumb.

          • NOTslow17mo

            It’s an opinion piece about Mass Effect.

            What does that prove, exactly? Oh, right, nothing.

          • Read the article first kid.

          • NOTslow17mo

            The best part is that the article extrapolates on what little was said. The developers mentioned the limitations of the engine. That’s it. The rest is opinion.

            We’ll still be getting another ME.

            We’ll still be getting another DA.

          • HEHEHEHEHEHEHE. We will see. 🙂

          • NOTslow17mo

            Anthem really makes it look like Bioware is bankrupt, eh? Lol

          • Yeah because the remnants of Bioware being forced to work on an EA developed destiny ripoff shows that they are very much alive. LOL You do know guys are only attracted to ignorance when it comes from women right? HA!

          • NOTslow17mo

            The “remnants”? You mean the superstars EA paid a ton of money for to snatch up? And it’s clearly with the Mass Effect aesthetic. FYI, by that logic Destiny is a Halo ripoff–which is a Doom ripoff–which is…well, you get the point.

            Anthem is next–then likely Dragon Age IV–then the next Mass Effect.

          • NOTslow17mo

            Oh, and moron–it’s a primarily third person game with some FPS elements. Destiny and Titanfall were first person. So–it’s a “ripoff” with an entirely different aesthetic, gameplay, and perspective. Lulz.

          • NOTslow17mo
          • That is a rumor kid. I only deal in facts gaybo.
            Look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwuAjAnyrR8

          • NOTslow17mo

            Fact: Writer has been hired to work on DA4. Fact: Bioware is developing a new IP. Fact: You are an idiot.

          • Fact: You are one stupid father fucker.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj6St0tbaGI

          • Fact: You are one stupid father fucker.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj6St0tbaGI

          • NOTslow17mo

            Fact: Writer has been hired to work on DA4. Fact: Bioware is developing a new IP. Fact: You are an idiot.

          • Disqusted

            Because there are a lot of people like you with no taste or sense of quality. Dog feces could easily be number 1 on the sales chart.

          • NOTslow17mo

            Have you played the game? Nope.

          • SevTheBear

            Or Nioh or Yakuza 0. If one is into that 🙂

          • Disqusted

            You’re an idiot. It ends on a cliffhanger you babbling retard. And it’s selling extremely well. Just stop. You’re embarrassing yourself.

          • NOTslow17mo

            Once again–didn’t play the game did you? The Kett walking toward the camera–it’s called a cliffhanger.

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