Open Discussion: May 21st, 2017
(Last Updated On: May 21, 2017)

Welcome to this week’s Open Discussion where you can post anything that you like about video games (or not) and will face no censorship when doing so. This series of discussions change every week, but usually revolves around video games and the like.

Open Discussions pop up every Sunday on this site and explore a wide variety of topics that include technology, interactive entertainment and other mediums, and like any other post on this site no comment will face censorship. However, if a comment of yours faces any form of censorship by WordPress or Disqus, please let us know.

With that said and out of the way, this Open Discussion is about video games, developers or publishers that you hate or that drive you up the wall. More importantly, though, this Open Discussion is about why do you despise this game/development team?

This can range from a wide variety of developers and/or publishers. Additionally, you can post up a list or a single name, but explain why you hate a game: if it was poorly made, a scam in the works, a husk of a product, heavily laden with DLC, or that it went through so much censorship that it became appalling, whatever it is you are more than welcome to jot it down.

As of course, if you have something else on your mind and wish to share it you are free to post it up. In other words content unrelated to this topic can be shared without being moved or taken down.

In relation to this, one thing that I found while looking up older games was this video that Fox News posted talking about violence in video games. In the process Fox News revealed that when you censor a game it will bomb in sells, which in this case of the censored version of MK1 over 40% of sells dropped as seen below.

I know the above comes in as no surprise, but devs who kowtow to SJWs because they don’t have the balls to stand up will not only lose revenue and fans like in the past, but now and in the future to come.

Anyway, what game, dev team or publisher ebbs you the wrong way?

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  • Gaijin-

    I was going to post a reply to Mr. Towel agreeing on UBI, but then I stopped to think back: abusive microtransactions, bait and switch, games released broken, shady “deluxe editions” that try to extract more cash in exchange for next to nothing… common moves by all of the big three publishers.

    Funny thing is, the 3 publishers following the same strategies should not come as a surprise, since they are owned by pretty much the same people: Vanguard, JP Morgan, Fidelity and a host of other financial sharks. (Anyone interested in verifying this can take a quick look at MSN Money, Google Finance, or the tool of their choice).

    Solution? Kickstart an investment fund with the purpose of buying a significant stake in at least one of the big three publishers and have a say on the way they are run. Utopic, probably. Worth trying, definitely.

  • TylorW

    I can’t say that I particularly hate any company in particular, but I do hate how events and ideals have led EA to abandon franchises such as NFL Blitz and Command and Conquer.

    On another note now, I saw this recently on twitter and was wanting to share:

    The biggest thing that’s always had me curious about it is that a few people that I know are for NN for a host of reasons, one of which is that it prevents them from taking advantage of consumer (though that’s kinda assuming the consumer is stupid and there isn’t competition offering better), but I don’t really hear the other side of the argument that much.

    If there are good articles that someone knows explaining reasons that maybe NN should leave the stage, please hit me up, as I’m always wanting to learn more about things. 🙂

    • I haven’t heard much about the positives of net neutrality leaving. Every service having equal throughput from ISPs means no one is getting gypped.

      Comcast already has tiered content bundles just to access basic things like online streaming or having to pay extra for basic cable channels (yes, if you pay for cable you no longer get basic cable channels, you have to pay separately for that). I honestly don’t see why they wouldn’t cordon off access speeds for certain kinds of content, making people pay more for porn sites lest they get throttled, or limiting game latency and forcing people to pay for a gaming tier.

      I’m not really sure what the benefits are on the opposite side of the table that wouldn’t be exploited by big corporations currently running monopolies in certain regions.

  • Michael P

    Where to begin? So many devs/pubs have lost their way or are catering to markets that are either too niche or trying to cater to everyone but ultimately catering to no one.

    The main group I’ve fallen out of love with is racing devs tbh. Casualisation and repetition is at an all time high. Same cars, same tracks, simplistic layouts for open world games, weird simcade handling and bad wheel support. The market has almost completely stagnated, the only real innovation seems to be aimed at Youtubers and live streamers.

    And what the hell is going on with Polyphony Digital? Gran Turismo Sport is supposedly GT 7 now but it just sounds like a watered down version of GT 6 set to cater to a smaller segment of an already niche market, most of whom aren’t buying GT when iRacing exists.

    Just keeping the fingers crossed Dirt 4 is as good as it sounds, likely being the only racer this year worth a shit.

    • Mr.Towel

      If anything, Dirt will at least be seriously hard racing games

      • Michael P

        Hopefully yeah.

        All they really need to do is port over the Dirt Rally handling for the sim setting but Codies has a habit of chucking the baby out with the bath water on occasion so we’ll have to wait and see.

        If sim ends up just meaning twitchy (cheap difficulty akin to one hit kills), I’m gonna be pissed.

  • Disqusted

    Wrote two big comments complaining about stuff, but they didn’t really add or solve anything, so I decided not to post them.

    Mainstream media sucks, people suck, yadayada. The usual.

    • Mr.Towel

      Not like you. Things are getting too depressive lately isn’t?

      • Disqusted

        Always depressed anyway. It’s fundamentally the same old problems: people believing what they want to believe, acting like they know everything better than everybody else, mainstream lying with impunity, political correctness still getting worse, etc. So much corruption everywhere.

        I feel like I’m wasting too much time writing stuff that doesn’t really change anything, when I should be tinkering around in Unreal or something productive.

        Was looking through Japanese lists of female protagonist games. There really aren’t many good ones, at all. I feel like I could make some good ones, if I wasn’t procrastinating so much.

        • Sometimes it’s best to just shut off the net and do something for you. Too much intake of what’s happening in the world will ruin your brain. It’s good to stay informed but, too much of this stuff will ruin you.

          Definitely work on your Unreal project and give us an update on what you’re working on. Personally, I would rather hear about that stuff than the latest political scandal or some other nonsense about a favorite pastime or hobby being censored because of some slick-haired, silver-tongued politician spouting off at the mouth about “muh feels”.

          • Disqusted


        • Mr.Towel

          Artist will always have a love-hate relationship with procrastination. It hampers actual work but the mind of a artist also has to wander before finding the right stuff.

          But if you believe you’re procrastinating too much don’t be afraid of cutting out some internet. Internet can be a very dark and toxic place, it can poison your mind. Sometimes is better to do a Internet detox for a week or two and then come back with a much reduced bookmarks of political sites.

          Most politics are like a scratched disks anyway, it just keeps repeating itself. After you got used to how things work in this world you don’t need so many sources of political information, you can pretty much guess what happens because shit just repeats itself.

          That’s the white and dark thing about politics. To us, living in our times, it always feels like things are only becoming worse, that we’re at the pointy end of the stick. But really, none of this horrible stuff is ever knew. It has always been like that. The bullshit just changes form but the essence is always the same, and have been so for thousand years.

          On the bad side, it means mankind has always been a pile of horrible corrupt shit who aren’t worth a fart.

          On the good side, it means good stuff have always happened despite all this crap. This crap isn’t the end of the world, nor does it brings justice down.

          So it’s better to do actual good stuff and just be mindful of all the crap running around. For good measure.

          • So it’s better to do actual good stuff and just be mindful of all the crap running around. For good measure.

            This is good advice.

          • Disqusted

            Thanks too.

  • Phasmatis75

    Is E3 being opened up to the public this year as a result of the industry being unable to trust journalists anymore? In the last two to three years, journalists have celebrated everything that was virtue signalous and ignored or chided everything else. When these titles inevitably came out they bombed costing the publishers millions. Noted Examples: Watch Dogs 2, Mafia 3, Horizon: Zero Dawn (which needs to sell about 6-8 million).

    Worse is that journalists have their hands tied having to kiss the ass of developers or just have horrible tastes. Leading them to praise obviously going to be unpopular games that then go on to sell horribly. The greatest example being Hitman, as the developers celebrated episodic the public ignored it.

    Is E3 this year opened to the public so that companies can have a gage of what the average hard core consumer thinks? My money is honestly on this being the case, but what’s your opinion?

    • Is E3 this year opened to the public so that companies can have a gage of what the average hard core consumer thinks? My money is honestly on this being the case, but what’s your opinion?

      Market focus group testing paid for by the people you’re trying to sell your product to. It’s brilliant really.

      • Phasmatis75

        Really is, but it might end up shaking things up. Hearing right from the gaming public or watching them not be wowed by something journalists drool over is a good way to get innovation back into gaming.

        Hell, developers at Ubisoft hearing: lol we waz kangz and people not being interested in Far Cry 5 might be what it takes for corporate to issues some serious revisions to the projects.

    • Michael P

      I think you may have hit the nail right on the head there.

    • durka durka

      Let me play devils advocate and say thtat game sales are low in general lately, piracy cant be blamed for it, yeah denuvo games are cracked faster but overall it feels like no one buys games on launch anymore, they propably have alot of games in their backlog.

      • Disqusted

        I get the impression a lot of people are riding hype/social bullshit and buying stuff they don’t even play or actually like. Or they are just bored to shit and will throw money at whatever comes out.

      • Phasmatis75

        I’ll be frank, if I wasn’t a hardcore gamer who loved gaming as much as I love breathing I’d probably be buying a lot less games. Hell just the last couple months alone because of political bs or Denuvo I’ve saved several hundred dollars by not purchasing bad games.

      • but overall it feels like no one buys games on launch anymore, they propably have alot of games in their backlog.

        That was literally just revealed in a Nielsen Media survey… a bunch of people don’t buy games anymore brand new because of their back catalog. I think 12% or 13% of gamers don’t buy new games anymore.

  • Mr.Towel


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    • Phasmatis75

      We was Kangzs or Far Cry 5: The Right is Evil?

      • Mr.Towel

        Nah, my hate from them is older than that, comes from the last generation. Their Rayman and Rainbow Six days were alright.

        • Phasmatis75

          They’ve killed so many great IPs.

    • Hawk Hopper

      Ubisoft used to be really good. I like the Prince of Persia, Tom Clancy, and Rayman games. But for the past 7(?) or so years, everything they have put out is very disposable and forgettable. I remember being interested in Far Cry 3, and having not played any of the Assassin Creed games, I didn’t know how disappointed FC3 would be. It also sucks that they turned Ghost Recon into some sort of watered down Just Cause experience in a Ubisoft skin.

      • Mr.Towel

        Agreed. Almost everything from them which came at the Fifth and Sixth Generation is at least decent stuff, when they’re not good, one of the best of their class. But somehow, things went to shit at the Seventh Generation and has remained like that since then.

    • Phasmatis75

      I’ve literally, quite literally had to explain to someone before how Black Flag wasn’t historically accurate. They legitimately bought into the whole narrative especially around the female characters until I explained to them what really made them become pirates, and what really happened to them.

      At least now they’re so historically inaccurate any moron can see they’re absolute bullshit, but it sucks watching them butcher otherwise great historic settings and people who’s actual story would trump anything their writers could come up with.

  • Hawk Hopper

    I guess Alien: Covenant was a mess.

    I saw Guardians of the Galaxy 2. I thought it was ok. One thing I noticed is that a lot of jokes fell flat with the audience on the opening weekend. It seems like if those jokes happened 5 years ago, the whole audience would have been dying. I also think Deadpool wasn’t very funny.

    The US is selling about $100 billion worth of weapons to the Saudis. You, the average American, probably won’t see any of this money.

    The Chinese killed like 20, and imprisoned others, spies of ours in their country. This crippled out intelligence gathering on the Chinese, which kind of begs the question: why did we have so few spies in a country that could actually do damage to us?

    I guess the CIA’s Meme Warfare department has their work cut out for them.

    • GuyverOne

      Never had much hope for Covenant. Thought Prometheus was a bad joke and the new movie sounds like more of the same. Not sure if I should hold out hope for the new Predator movie, fox seems to be on a roll for f’kin things up on these two franchise.

      • Hawk Hopper

        It would seem like somebody could make a good Alien vs Predator movie. Maybe James Cameron could have put together a great one before he got caught up in all his Avatar extravagance.

    • Phasmatis75

      I heard the same about Covenant and read some reasons why (everyone is full retard and even the most basic of protocols are ignored). Pity for I was hoping it would be good.

      Guardians 2 strikes me as the we like it because it’s what we have movie. Not great, but after week one the buzz seemed to be none existent inside my circles (which are pretty small so take that for what it’s worth).

      The Saudi deal is a strategic move to buy allies against Israel. Right now we know that Israel controls about 80% of the politicians and Trump just leaked to Putin a Israeli false flag wherein they were going to crash some planes and blame it on ISIS. It’s public knowledge that they control and are allies to ISIS.

      It’s a safe bet since Saudi Arabia is a powder keg. I can’t recall the details but essentially when the King dies because of how he set it up there is going to be a civil war over who gets tor rule next. It’ll engulf that country for a decade and if they’re armed to the teeth, then they’re going to have themselves a bloodbath. All Trump would have to do is arrange the death of the King if they don’t play his game.

      That’s news to me. It’s not number it’s capacity. In real life you don’t spread Illuminati sized networks through nations. You have a select amount of agents who buy and weasel information to send back to your capital.

      • Phasmatis75

        Completely forgot how Saudi Arabia owns a huge stake in Twitter. Wonder how this is going to play out for Trumps enemies.

      • Hawk Hopper

        That’s news to me. It’s not number it’s capacity. In real life you don’t spread Illuminati sized networks through nations. You have a select amount of agents who buy and weasel information to send back to your capital.

        The thing is this started happening in 2010. Imagine not knowing for seven years how your intelligence got compromised. The FBI and CIA don’t even know exactly how it happened and were unable to stop it from happening. The intelligence agencies in the US have been shit for a while now. They can’t even stop leaks.

        • Phasmatis75

          I’d wager it probably has something to do with Chinese exploiting back doors the NSA had put in computer programs. Chinese have a very sophisticated programming sector with systems in place to prevent this from happening, but it’s also known they’ve been using NSA backdoors for years.

          If I had to guess how they know what they know it’d be our computer systems have been cracked.

    • durka durka

      why do you even have spies in china is the question.