Nintendo Localizers Now Work With Japanese Devs To Censor Games For Western Culture
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
(Last Updated On: June 19, 2017)

A recent interview with Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime, Monolith Soft CEO Tetsuya Takahashi, and Nintendo’s Genki Yokota reveals insight into the censorship and localization process for Nintendo games that arrive in the West.

Nintendo Everything condensed down the important bits from the original Kotaku interview, quoting Reggie Fils-Aime, who explained that Nintendo works with the Japanese development teams to ensure that the games fit the cultural standards in the West, particularly in America…

“The creators are always involved in anything that happens in the localization process. In terms of what gets localized, there’s a simple collection of words that we use to define how we think about this: It’s ‘cultural relevance’ and ‘understanding of the ratings and ratings implications.’

 

“It’s during those meetings that they discuss the localization process, what’s being evaluated. I am extremely comfortable with the process. And again if you look at our executives that are involved, Nate Bihldorff and members of this team, they have deep relationships with the developers and everything is being done with the best intentions of the content showing itself the best way it can.”

It’s mentioned that Nintendo’s Treehouse localizers travel to Japan about every two months to discuss content and upcoming products with the development teams. This is Nintendo’s new strategy in working with Japanese developers for games currently in production as opposed to letting the Japanese teams finish the work and then localize it later.

Nintendo’s Yokota explained that current games in development in Japan are now being made in collaboration with Nintendo’s European localization group…

“We’re really building [the game] as we’re in discussion. Whereas for the past title, the Japanese version had already been pretty much close to completion when this [localization] discussion started.”

 

“For past titles, because the Japanese version was done, our challenge was then to figure out what it is we need to do to make sure this game is made available in overseas, as well as, we’re able to sell this product. In that sense, I was open to making any changes that were necessary to make sure everybody can enjoy this game.”

In simple terms, it means that Western localizers can start censoring content during development as opposed to after development. So even if you want to import the Japanese version, it may already be just as censored as the American or European version.

Reggie mentioning the “cultural relevance” of localization caught the eye of Censored Gaming, who dug into the IGDA’s usage of the term in some of their documents relating to basically censoring products from one region to the next to ensure that it’s culturally appropriate.

Some of the commenters on the Nintendo Everything article tried to argue that Japanese developers don’t mind censoring their products, and invite that kind of feedback. However, others pointed out that creative directors like Masahiro Sakurai lamented having to censor characters like Palutena in the Japanese version of Super Smash Bros. on the Wii U, as reported by Source Gaming.

Nintendo previously came under fire for the localization of games like Fire Emblem: Fates and Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE, which made drastic changes to the character stories, interactions and designs in order to fit Western standards. Gamers were able to take note of these changes by comparing the American versions to the Japanese versions and spotting out the differences in side-by-side breakdowns.

With Nintendo’s new method of having European and Treehouse localizers travel to Japan and suggest censorship changes while the games are in development, like with the upcoming Xenoblade Chronicles 2, it means that the Eastern version and the Western version are going to be a lot closer in terms of content.

Genki Yokota explained that the main goal is to have very little difference between the Japanese version and the other versions released around the world, saying…

“When we have costumes or clothes that we have a little concern with, we share it with NoE and NoA and they’ll say, ‘No, no, that’s fine’ or ‘You’re right, that’s an issue.’ If it is an issue, we’ll go back and say we’ll say, ‘We adjusted it this way, what do you think?’ There’s a lot of back and forth in that sense. Rather than compromise, it’s like we’re all aiming for the same goal, of being able to provide a good experience for everybody in all regions. And we’re aiming to have a game that has very little difference between the regions.”

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is due for release exclusively on the Nintendo Switch later this year.


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  • Alex Chaudhari

    You know, I really hate to generalize since it makes me an unnecessary bad guy here but why do I get these two questions here being this: Why do anime gamers never have a wait and see attitude and why do people who accuse things of being an SJW somehow end up turning into SJWs themselves? As much as I hate SJWs and censorship, I do get this feeling that this is what it’s boiling down to: A soon to be Balkanization in gaming where the Anti SJW crowd becomes SJWS and instill there own kind of agenda. you can scream and condemn me all you want but this is kinda what I’m seeing in the future here.

    • Well, Alex. In the case of anime games, we have a history of them being censored on the grounds of “progressivism”. Blade & Soul was specifically said to be making its way to the West uncensored (it’s an 18+ game after all), but it was censored by the localization team on the grounds that some of the content wasn’t progressive enough, and the women needed to be portrayed in a more empowered state to better reflect the values of feminism in the West. Gamers who wanted to campaign against this were censored or banned on the forums.

      You have to understand that it’s literally people who have had their hobby usurped by political ideologues and then told “lol, we’re not taking your games away. You’re just paranoid”. And then they proceed to take the games away or complain and get them banned, like what happened to Hatred, or how Criminal Girls 1 & 2 were heavily censored in the West and nearly 50% of all the fan-service was either removed or obscured but the games were still banned in certain regions, leaving gamers with a gimped product and others who still couldn’t buy it anyway.

      For people who repeatedly see certain kinds of games under attack, censored, banned, or “localized” with unsavory results, such as Fire Emblem Fates or Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE, it becomes angering knowing that your hobby is under attack and there’s literally nothing you can do about it.

      • Alex Chaudhari

        My fear is that we can end up with a harsh scorched earth policy that can turn the Anti SJWs into SJWs themselves. I mean let’s be real, would anyone in this comment section save a certain company from death when the SJW crowd is kicked out and the people here were given that option? They would say “They don’t deserve forgiveness, they deserve to die for attacking us. Sorry, no more of that particular game or franchise anymore because our feelings were hurt before”. That’s Social Justice if that scenario ever happens. I’m giving a word of caution here.

  • Paradox Reign

    You know, I wanted Xenoblade Chronicles 1 so badly, but when I saw that this game was censored, I said “fuck this” and kept my money. The same happened later with FF# and Fire Emblem Fate. And now I hear this.

    I lost a lot of games like this way, which I never played and won’t plan to play. When will the world pull its head out of its ass and accept the fucking fakt, that these are fucking stories and nothing else. You want racism and problems, go outside and watch the news. But these are fucking games, which are not even close to reality. I wonder when we will reach the point, in which making games will become a thing, that only governments will do, because they know best what is “good for us”.

    Stalin showed us the future, and now we soon live in it. However, this time, it will be the SJWs who will force us to dance after their flute. And I rather pull the plug than to join this bullshit by going underground as all of the heroes from 19xx did when they created their comics to rebel against the comic censorship.

    #FreedomforTitsAndAss

    • You know, I wanted Xenoblade Chronicles 1 so badly, but when I saw that this game was censored, I said “fuck this” and kept my money. The same happened later with FF# and Fire Emblem Fate. And now I hear this.

      Same thing happened to Blade & Soul. I was looking forward to that game a lot, because back before it was localized, the developers promised that the game would not be censored for the West.

      What happened? Social Justice parasites on the localization team censored the game, with most of the censorship focused on depicting the female characters in a more “positive” and “empowered” manner.

      And anyone who brought this issue up and mentioned it on the forums had their comments censored, threads locked and sometimes the posters themselves banned from the forum.

      • Paradox Reign

        Blade & Soul was also a game I wanted to play, but as you said, the censorship just ruined it for me as well. It really looks like people can’t make games without those sjw / feminists bastards around us. I really hope this will die someday and people will become normal again. Guess not in the far future.

    • Alex Chaudhari

      You are in the minority when it comes to Xenoblade Chronicles because most people didn’t care about that. You’re talking about X. Also that seems kinda unnecessary if you don’t play games because you at purposely ending your gaming knowledge.

  • CrimsonCavalier

    It isn’t Western cultural standards to which they’re trying to adhere. They’re pandering to the fucking pieces of shit SJWs, who have their little fingers in everything. Quit ruining everything for everyone else. Let adults make their own choices. I don’t want sociopaths thinking they know what I want and don’t want, what I need to see and what I don’t need to see.

  • CrimsonCavalier

    It isn’t Western cultural standards to which they’re trying to adhere. They’re pandering to the fucking pieces of shit SJWs, who have their little fingers in everything. Quit ruining everything for everyone else. Let adults make their own choices. I don’t want sociopaths thinking they know what I want and don’t want, what I need to see and what I don’t need to see.

  • AR7777

    Nintendo America’s master plan: No one can complain about censorship if there’s no uncensored version.

    This shit is unacceptable. Fuck Nintendo

  • APA

    Why the fudge can’t we receive the content as intended by the creators? There’s a freaking rating that ensures the content it’s appropiate for each age. Why is it so difficult to learn from Atlus, XSEED or Aksys on thar regard, Ninty? Sony doesn’t bother anyone with that.

    • Kiryu

      Because apparently Nintendo knows better what’s best for you.
      And then N Fanboys get butthurt when we call Nintendo a kiddie company.

      • Alex Chaudhari

        I guess Bayonetta 2 is a kiddie game to you or Devil’s Third for that matter

  • Ted Harrold

    now? are you joking? Nintendo and all other games have been adjusted for the laws of the country of sale since the 80’s. Fuck, look up “lunar blue star story complete” and learn some shit

  • Milty10

    “Ignore them and they’ll go away!” they said.

    • Kiryu

      Most retarded thing to say.Ignoring a problem will certainly make it go away.

  • poguxd

    i lost all hope for humanity

    • JustANerdWithARocketLauncher

      I know, this comment section is atrocious. These guys really like video game titties

      • “Muh social justice. Why don’t normal people like muh social justice.”

        If you could see life beyond the blinders maybe you would understand not everyone is a regressive Liberal prude or Republican puritan arsehole, and *gasp* people like things you may not like.

        I know your parents never taught you that because trust fund kids grow up having everything given to them (or you’re poor and your dad left you and never explained to you that people outside your world view have different tastes than your own), but in the real world kid, people aren’t always like you and don’t always like what you like.

        I know it’s shocking, but I figured I would tell you since you weren’t smart enough to learn it in class and your parents sure as heck were educated enough to teach you about it.

        • JustANerdWithARocketLauncher

          Man it’s amazing how far you missed describing my life. I know there are people with different world views, and sometimes those world views involve looking at video game titties. And these people sure do like it. And I am pointing out the fact that there are so many people here who are insulting a video game company catered for children for wanting have less bare skin and big tits (most of which are on underage characters) from a company that most certainly does not want to be associated with that.

          I’m sorry that you didn’t realize you have your own blinders to think that the only people who disagree with you fall under those categories, or that some people aren’t described by their family status but rather had a relatively normal family life and had their personality formed by events and tragedies that didn’t have to do with their dad leaving or being a trust fund kid.

          • And I am pointing out the fact that there are so many people here who are insulting a video game company catered for children for wanting have less bare skin and big tits (most of which are on underage characters)

            Except who is saying that? People here are complaining about censorship in general, which stretches across religious themes, violence, characterizations, story and yes, even sexualization.

            The fact that you are singularly fixated on the female mammaries tells me you’re the only one here who can’t stop thinking about video game tits.

            I’m sorry that you didn’t realize you have your own blinders to think that the only people who disagree with you fall under those categories

            The only people disagreeing who aren’t in the aforementioned categories fall under the categories of being idiots, trolls, mongloids, troglodytes, pedophiles or rapists.

            Pick one.

          • JustANerdWithARocketLauncher

            I’m talking about things in relation to this article. If you want to argue about censorship in general that’s fine, but maybe take it somewhere else because comments on an article should be in reference to the article. Most of nintendo’s censorship falls under the censoring of bare skin and breasts, so I’m sorry if I was staying on the topic of the article.

            It’s too bad you’re so fixed onto categories that people have to fall under those. I am in college on course to graduating magna cum laude, so idiot doesn’t seem right. I did use to troll but that was back when I was 13 and I stopped doing that in high school. I’m not sure if you meant mongoloid which is an actual word, or meant it that way as in the internet term for retard, which I am absolutely not. With troglodyte you’re just being redundant because you’re using it in the same context as being stupid. I am not a pedophile, especially since I really don’t want to see any children in video games in skimpy clothes. And I am certainly not a rapist, I respect women and actually am a part of a service at my campus where we walk women home to ensure no one assaults them.

            You must really be up on a high horse to decide the type of people who disagree with you are only a part of those groups. You’ll never learn anything arguing if you insist that anyone who is against you is below you. Then again, it doesn’t seem like you are able to acknowledge people who have different world views because of the way you describe people who’s world views aren’t yours.

          • I’m talking about things in relation to this article. If you want to argue about censorship in general that’s fine, but maybe take it somewhere else because comments on an article should be in reference to the article. Most of nintendo’s censorship falls under the censoring of bare skin and breasts, so I’m sorry if I was staying on the topic of the article.

            Where is that a rule? I don’t remember that being a rule here at this site. When did it come into play?

            Man, I wish someone would have told me that people can’t talk about censorship in general in relation to an article discussing censorship. I mean, we can only talk about boobs being censored; so sayeth JustANerdWithARocketLauncher.

            It’s too bad you’re so fixed onto categories that people have to fall under those.

            It’s not my problem that’s the truth.

            . I am in college on course to graduating magna cum laude, so idiot doesn’t seem right.

            I’ve met a lot of dumb people with degrees. Don’t sell yourself short, ace.

            I did use to troll but that was back when I was 13 and I stopped doing that in high school.

            Good… I guess?

            I’m not sure if you meant mongoloid which is an actual word, or meant it that way as in the internet term for retard, which I am absolutely not.

            Verdict is still out.

            With troglodyte you’re just being redundant because you’re using it in the same context as being stupid.

            Ah, someone’s been browsing Merriam.

            I am not a pedophile, especially since I really don’t want to see any children in video games in skimpy clothes.

            I’m pretty sure John Podesta would say the same thing.

            And I am certainly not a rapist, I respect women and actually am a part of a service at my campus where we walk women home to ensure no one assaults them.

            And Matt Hickey was/is a male feminist fighting on behalf of women’s rights. Didn’t stop him from trying to imitate the rape horse from Berserk.

            You must really be up on a high horse to decide the type of people who disagree with you are only a part of those groups.

            Nah, those people are usually just in ditches.

            Then again, it doesn’t seem like you are able to acknowledge people who have different world views because of the way you describe people who’s world views aren’t yours.

            Ohhhhh…. you got me, ace. You got me good in the heart. The ruse is up. Apparently I’m an SJW in disguise. You win. You can now go back to raping women while watching kiddie pr0n with your retard brother who trolls on 4chan.

          • JustANerdWithARocketLauncher

            Oh man dude, thank you. You’re response couldn’t have been more predicted. Normally now I would call you a lonely virgin without any female friends, but you’ve taught me how stupid it looks to just try and defame your opponent without knowing literally anything about them. Like you’re so convinced that those are the only people who are against. Why would rapists even be against you when after looking at some of your articles you’re so sexist and support the things they believe. You’re alienating you’re allies dude. This has really taught me a lot on how not to look bad on the internet, so seriously thanks dude. Enjoy your life of “rustling Jimmies” because it’s made your arguments so coherent that all you can do to argue with me is try and defame someone you know nothing about. Cheers love, the cavalries queer

          • Why would rapists even be against you when after looking at some of your articles you’re so sexist and support the things they believe.

            I don’t know, ask your butt-buddy Matt Hickey. He was anti-#GamerGate and a rapist.

            http://www.oneangrygamer.net/2017/04/matt-hickey-anti-gamergate-journalist-fined-332000-for-porn-agency-scam/28169/

            You’re alienating you’re allies dude. This has really taught me a lot on how not to look bad on the internet, so seriously thanks dude.

            Allies? You support censorship, so you’re no ally of gaming, bruh.

            Enjoy your life of “rustling Jimmies” because it’s made your arguments so coherent that all you can do to argue with me is try and defame someone you know nothing about. Cheers love, the cavalries queer

            Whatever, dude. You can’t seem to stop thinking about tiddies, and you actually had no argument other than defending censorship. I didn’t have to “try and defame” you… you did that yourself being obsessed with cartoon boobs.

          • Smug

            ” And I am certainly not a rapist, I respect women and actually am a part of a service at my campus where we walk women home to ensure no one assaults them”

            that’s what happens when you let the dindus and sandnigs in the country

      • AR7777

        Shut up neo puritan piece of shit

  • JustANerdWithARocketLauncher

    Did it ever occur to you guys that maybe they aren’t censoring things because of SJWs? Maybe they’re censoring things because nintendo has a reputation as a child friendly company and if a parent walks in on their kid and sees half naked teenage girls they’re gunna complain? Nintendo has always been a company that caters to younger audiences.

    • CatCouch

      That’s what the ESRB, PEGI and other rating systems are for.

      If they feel that way they shouldn’t publish the games to begin with.

      • JustANerdWithARocketLauncher

        Yeah and Nintendo would rather make their games have lower ratings on ESRB. You have not proven me wrong my dude/

        • CatCouch

          That doesn’t cover all or even the majority of what they’re doing. Wedding dresses don’t cause games to get M ratings. Bikini’s don’t cause games to get M ratings. Breast sliders don’t either. Plenty of Teen games have these features.

          Why would the face petting mini game in Fire Emblem Fates increase the age rating? Why remove skimpy outfits in a M rated game like Fatal Frame 5?

          The best answer we have is culturalization.

          • The best answer we have is culturalization.

            In other words, censorship via the biased and personal agendas of fat, blue-haired, problem-glasses wearing hipster Social Justice feminist parasites on the localization team then.

          • JustANerdWithARocketLauncher

            The breast sliders issue was to prevent people from making their characters to look like lolis and so they could have them wear a skimpy bikini and not have the same kind of covering swimsuit as the 13 year old character. I can’t confirm this but I have been told that the reason the fatal frame costumes were removed was actually due to licensing rights because when it came to America the company who the clothes were based on pulled the rights to use their clothing, so it wasn’t even nintendo.

            Cultures are different and America has always had a more modest culture. And is it really censorship if its something that happens during development?

          • Akai Kiri

            if memory serves it was in fact due to the rights. This happens a lot actually due to the way licenses are written.

            There are already plenty of games that have short/flat characters in skimpy swimsuits, even on steam. Also common in anime.

            By definition of censorship, yes. A group of people that are able to request changes to content as it is made is no different than the same group doing the same thing after it has been finished. It’s actually more efficient to do it this way because the devs don’t have to go fishing for the assets in question and change them and edit code if thats needed. Doesn’t change the fact that american laws are far less strict than laws in japan so any argument that its because of legal issues around the appearance are actually invalid. These changes are only made because a few people believe they are absolutely required so that someone isn’t offended by the literally minor changes made that most people are not even aware of in the first place.

          • CatCouch

            Is it censorship? is it localization? It looks like it’s in between. I think we’re past the semantics part of the discussion now that culturalization is involved. And yes, it can be censorship in development. Pressure from one culture to leave out elements of another culture because it’s offensive is pretty close to the definition of censorship.

            The Licensing thing could be true but the bikini’s were also removed out of the remake of Fatal Frame 2 on the Wii. It’s a pattern.

            If the breast slider was removed to prevent loli characters then why am I not allowed to have large breasts? What about the head petting mini game? I don’t appreciate Japanese culture being edited out of the Japanese games I buy.

            It’s surprising that anyone would want suppression of art from another culture. This is a serious debate that needs to happen because a lot more is at stake than just bikini’s.

    • Minuteworld92

      oh yeah dude bayonetta 2 is totally a kid friendly game published by nintendo d00d

  • Chris Bedard
  • Mr. Oshawott

    With all of this “culturalization” buffoonery going worldwide, the world of gaming has regressed back to 1990 levels of censorship, but on a global scale. This will only bring about more cultural ISOLATION, not unity. As the old adage goes: All bad roads are paved with good intentions.

  • nate148

    hey look a edgelord

  • CatCouch

    I’m not sure what I think of this. On one hand this could mean Nintendo Treehouse has less influence on the games we get in the west. Pokemon and Zelda have world wide releases and seem to keep the adult humor in them intact where Treehouse would likely edit it.

    On the other hand, the severity of the changes in Tokyo Mirage Sessions, Fire Emblem Fates and to a lesser extent, XBC X, Fatal Frame etc, along with the
    definition of culturalization in the video has me concerned this will
    lead to pressure on the Japanese developers to abandon the more
    Japanese elements in their games. Not just Bikini’s but anything with
    cultural significance that the “west” wouldn’t get. The old onigiri/jelly doughnut issue.

    • ntbxp

      >Not just Bikini’s but anything with
      cultural significance that the “west” wouldn’t get. The old onigiri/jelly doughnut issue.

      I agree. If you think about “cultural appropriation” bullshit, the game having japanese culture on it would be considered an barrier because since you are not japanese, you should not consume japanese culture.
      There would be no Mexican Mario on Mario Odyssey if Treehouse or NoA had heavy influence on it.

      Barrier… They are the one building a wall.

    • ntbxp

      >Not just Bikini’s but anything with
      cultural significance that the “west” wouldn’t get. The old onigiri/jelly doughnut issue.

      I agree. If you think about “cultural appropriation” bullshit, the game having japanese culture on it would be considered an barrier because since you are not japanese, you should not consume japanese culture.
      There would be no Mexican Mario on Mario Odyssey if Treehouse or NoA had heavy influence on it.

      Barrier… They are the one building a wall.

  • CatCouch

    I’m not sure what I think of this. On one hand this could mean Nintendo Treehouse has less influence on the games we get in the west. Pokemon and Zelda have world wide releases and seem to keep the adult humor in them intact where Treehouse would likely edit it.

    On the other hand, the severity of the changes in Tokyo Mirage Sessions, Fire Emblem Fates and to a lesser extent, XBC X, Fatal Frame etc, along with the
    definition of culturalization in the video has me concerned this will
    lead to pressure on the Japanese developers to abandon the more
    Japanese elements in their games. Not just Bikini’s but anything with
    cultural significance that the “west” wouldn’t get. The old onigiri/jelly doughnut issue.

  • Travis Touchdown

    I love how the censorshitters have lowered the bar so far to the point where changing a product mid development, with the consent of the developers, can be considered censorship.

    These complaints are and always have been a joke.

  • Travis Touchdown

    I love how the censorshitters have lowered the bar so far to the point where changing a product mid development, with the consent of the developers, can be considered censorship.

    These complaints are and always have been a joke.

  • Travis Touchdown

    I love how the censorshitters have lowered the bar so far to the point where changing a product mid development, with the consent of the developers, can be considered censorship.

    These complaints are and always have been a joke.

    • JustANerdWithARocketLauncher

      These guys really love their fake tits man

      • Smug

        2D > 3DPD

      • Minuteworld92

        you’re the only one talking about them.

    • Smug

      Just because the jap folks cant into fact-check and get deceived by western localizers who tell them lies about how the west works, doesnt mean it’s not censorship by influence by changing what is deemed “offensive”. In the end, it’s only alienating their jap audience, especially more when it’ll touch niche games.

      That happened very well with Star Ocean 5, but I suppose you dont care since it’s a game on a Sony system :^)

    • epy

      Aw, “censorshitters” guy is here too.

  • I will never buy a nintendo product again.

  • I will never buy a nintendo product again.

  • Rancine Ouibulette

    So Japan can’t have their lolis because America frowns upon it? Why not just nuke them again you want to erase their culture?

  • Marmotte Desormiers Bourdeau

    That’s a ridiculous notion. First off, there’s this weird idea that censoring and localization are the same thing. There’s also the ridiculous notion that censorship is necessarily a bad thing. Let’s look at a couple definitions first. I’ll be using the Merriam-Webster for this.

    Censorship
    “a: the institution, system, or practice of censoring.
    b : the actions or practices of censors; especially : censorial control exercised repressively”

    Censor (ing)
    “: a person who supervises conduct and morals: such as
    a : an official who examines materials (such as publications or films) for objectionable matter Government censors deleted all references to the protest.
    b : an official (as in time of war) who reads communications (such as letters) and deletes material considered sensitive or harmful”

    So from these excerpts, we can determine that censoring is a system, usually institutional, by which harmful or objectionable material is removed from publications. This, in and of itself, isn’t a bad thing. The problem lies in what is considered objectionable material or not. It’s only a problem when governments and companies censor facts or dissident opinions that act to undermine their interests. This is true in spite of the notion of free speech. That is because Freedom of Speech, as a human right, is not absolute. It does include a number of exceptions. These exceptions include, but are not limited to, incitement, slander, and obscenity. That’s the harm principle. “The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against their will, is to prevent harm to others.” Content can harm others, and so harmful material should not be published, or published with due consideration and warnings.

    This is why we have things like ratings boards.

    Let’s take the content creator’s and the translator’s points of views now. The translator’s job isn’t just to translate words, like a machine would. The translator’s job is to translate the creator’s intent, as completely as possible. This is called the skopos, in translation theory. Basically, it states that the translator should aim to make the translated work reflect not only the spoken words, but the intended message. If the intent of the creator is to make a work of fiction to be enjoyed by people of all ages, then making a translated/localized work rated 18+ is unacceptable. It means that there are things considered trivial by the original author that are socially unacceptable in the target audience. Because the goal was always to make a work of fiction accessible by as many people as possible, then removing the offensive material, or altering it in a way that keeps the core of the message– the value of that content– is in no way a bad thing. Because it serves the creator’s intent.

    Now, say the intent of the creator is to make a social commentary on war, and the creator is not at all concerned with the audience of that commentary, then the translator’s goal is simply to communicate that social commentary. The translator might change a metaphor or idiom to better reflect the creator’s point, that would otherwise be lost in translation if the average reader of the target language isn’t knowledgeable about the creator’s culture. If any of the content happens to be too realistic, grim, or violent for a PG rating in North America, then so be it. It can get a 13+ or 18+ rating without any problem regarding the creator’s intent.

    And so localization is a necessary process of any international release. It’s a part of translation that covers more than just moral compass, but also societal understanding and perception.

    To make it more to the point, nothing here is being censored in the first place. A committee of people are working together on the creative project to ensure that nothing harmful or distasteful is included in the material. Because it is a part of the creative project, nothing is being censored. The act of censorship is an act of erasure. In this scenario, no objectionable material is created in the first place.

    • A committee of people are working together on the creative project to ensure that nothing harmful or distasteful is included in the material.

      It’s called self-censorship.

      • Travis Touchdown

        It’s amazing how you retards have deluded yourselves into thinking that this is a thing.

        Marmotte’s comment is spot on.

          • Travis Touchdown

            It’s interesting how you chose not to respond to Marmotte’s response. In fact, when I went to comment to praise him on his insight, I found that I could not. Someone, a certain moderator perhaps, shut down the ability to respond to that particular comment.

            It’s almost like… dissenting opinions here are censored, with no explanation? If only there were a blog where I could complain about this.

            But seriously, all of you are cucks and don’t represent Nintendo’s wider audience. This move guarantees that you will no longer by able to cherry pick certain images and pretend that the whole game is ruined because of it. You will actually have to… imagine this… judge the game on it’s own merits. Which, of course, you will never do.

          • It’s interesting how you chose not to respond to Marmotte’s response.

            90% of his comment was pedantic bloviating. I only responded to the relevant parts by saying that self-censorship does exist. He opted not to respond to that retort, and it seems you’ve chosen not to as well.

            In fact, when I went to comment to praise him on his insight, I found that I could not. Someone, a certain moderator perhaps, shut down the ability to respond to that particular comment.

            Disqus auto-moved his comment into the spam folder after it was repeatedly downvoted. Blame the system not the worker.

            It’s almost like… dissenting opinions here are censored, with no explanation? If only there were a blog where I could complain about this.

            You’re complaining now… aren’t you, ace?

          • It’s interesting how you chose not to respond to Marmotte’s response.

            To be honest, what Billy said virtually destroys the rest of Marmotte’s pile of crap anyway.

          • Smug

            Marmotte’s comment is still here, you blind dummy.

            Also not surprised you would praise a comment making up exceptions of the First Amendment and advocating for censorship on creative works for the sole reason they shouldnt be “offensive”

          • Marmotte’s comment is still here, you blind dummy.

            Okay, to be fair, Marmotte’s comment did briefly get moved to the spam folder due to the downvotes. That usually doesn’t happen when a comment is downvoted but maybe Disqus thought the length of the post + downvotes made it spam? Not sure.

            Anyway, I restored the comment, so it does make Travis’ post look a bit silly.

          • Travis Touchdown

            It’s interesting how you chose not to respond to Marmotte’s response. In fact, when I went to comment to praise him on his insight, I found that I could not. Someone, a certain moderator perhaps, shut down the ability to respond to that particular comment.

            It’s almost like… dissenting opinions here are censored, with no explanation? If only there were a blog where I could complain about this.

            But seriously, all of you are cucks and don’t represent Nintendo’s wider audience. This move guarantees that you will no longer by able to cherry pick certain images and pretend that the whole game is ruined because of it. You will actually have to… imagine this… judge the game on it’s own merits. Which, of course, you will never do.

      • Travis Touchdown

        It’s amazing how you retards have deluded yourselves into thinking that this is a thing.

        Marmotte’s comment is spot on.

      • Travis Touchdown

        It’s amazing how you retards have deluded yourselves into thinking that this is a thing.

        Marmotte’s comment is spot on.

    • So from these excerpts, we can determine that censoring is a system, usually institutional, by which harmful or objectionable material is removed from publications.

      Content can harm others, and so harmful material should not be published, or published with due consideration and warnings.

      A committee of people are working together on the creative project to
      ensure that nothing harmful or distasteful is included in the material.

      It’s a part of translation that covers more than just moral compass, but also societal understanding and perception.

      “harmful”, “objectionable”, “distasteful”, “moral compass”, “social understanding and perception”

      According to who’s definitions? Yours and only people of your ilk I take it?

      Do carry on trying to defend self-censorship though.

      It’s only a problem when governments and companies censor facts or dissident opinions that act to undermine their interests.

      You have a nerve to claim it’s a problem, considering that your ilk are the experts at censoring facts, dissident and dissenting opinions.

    • So from these excerpts, we can determine that censoring is a system, usually institutional, by which harmful or objectionable material is removed from publications.

      Content can harm others, and so harmful material should not be published, or published with due consideration and warnings.

      A committee of people are working together on the creative project to
      ensure that nothing harmful or distasteful is included in the material.

      It’s a part of translation that covers more than just moral compass, but also societal understanding and perception.

      “harmful”, “objectionable”, “distasteful”, “moral compass”, “social understanding and perception”

      According to who’s definitions? Yours and only people of your ilk I take it?

      Do carry on trying to defend self-censorship though.

      It’s only a problem when governments and companies censor facts or dissident opinions that act to undermine their interests.

      You have a nerve to claim it’s a problem, considering that your ilk are the experts at censoring facts, dissident and dissenting opinions.

    • Akai Kiri

      Now do you see the problem?

      Content is censored at the point of creation rather than specifically for some countries.

      the main problem is that not developers need to work with treehouse looming over there shoulder nit picking every little thing they do because it might possibly offend “someone”

      Treehouse is staffed by a small group of perpetually offended individuals that are now able to dictate what is and is not “objectionable material” that no one has the option to opt out of. Its impossible to make content that doesn’t offend anyone and at the end of the day if your so offended by minor things in games then you should probably find another game to play or not pay them at all and not change games that they are likely not even going to play even after they are changed.

      I would prefer if treeshouse would stay out of development and let the developers make what they want to make and let the individual decide what they want to play or what is/isn’t acceptable for there kids.

    • Akai Kiri

      Now do you see the problem?

      Content is censored at the point of creation rather than specifically for some countries.

      the main problem is that not developers need to work with treehouse looming over there shoulder nit picking every little thing they do because it might possibly offend “someone”

      Treehouse is staffed by a small group of perpetually offended individuals that are now able to dictate what is and is not “objectionable material” that no one has the option to opt out of. Its impossible to make content that doesn’t offend anyone and at the end of the day if your so offended by minor things in games then you should probably find another game to play or not pay them at all and not change games that they are likely not even going to play even after they are changed.

      I would prefer if treeshouse would stay out of development and let the developers make what they want to make and let the individual decide what they want to play or what is/isn’t acceptable for there kids.

      • Akai Kiri

        i had to re-type this like 8 times because of power outages. i can expand on it later because fuck the rain and everything it holds dear.

      • Akai Kiri

        i had to re-type this like 8 times because of power outages. i can expand on it later because fuck the rain and everything it holds dear.

      • Akai Kiri

        i had to re-type this like 8 times because of power outages. i can expand on it later because fuck the rain and everything it holds dear.

    • Akai Kiri

      Now do you see the problem?

      Content is censored at the point of creation rather than specifically for some countries.

      the main problem is that not developers need to work with treehouse looming over there shoulder nit picking every little thing they do because it might possibly offend “someone”

      Treehouse is staffed by a small group of perpetually offended individuals that are now able to dictate what is and is not “objectionable material” that no one has the option to opt out of. Its impossible to make content that doesn’t offend anyone and at the end of the day if your so offended by minor things in games then you should probably find another game to play or not pay them at all and not change games that they are likely not even going to play even after they are changed.

      I would prefer if treeshouse would stay out of development and let the developers make what they want to make and let the individual decide what they want to play or what is/isn’t acceptable for there kids.

    • Smug

      “That is because Freedom of Speech, as a human right, is not absolute. It does include a number of exceptions. ”

      I bet you’re one of the faggots who believe “Hate Speech” (which is a stupid and corrupted term) is an exception to the first amendment

      “Content can harm others, and so harmful material should not be published, or published with due consideration and warnings.”
      “A committee of people are working together on the creative project to
      ensure that nothing harmful or distasteful is included in the material”
      “The act of censorship is an act of erasure. In this scenario, no objectionable material is created in the first place.”

      Do you even read yourself?
      Basically advocating censorship of creative works for the sole purpose that they shouldnt be “offensive”

      • Marmotte Desormiers Bourdeau

        The creators in this case don’t want to make offensive content in the first place. So removing and/or finding concil to avoid making it is 100% ok. I’d also like to remind everyone here that, thanks to good ol’ capitalism, the creator of Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is, for ALL intents and purposes, Nintendo and Monolith Soft, the companies. I assure you that Monolith Soft and Nintendo’s visions were in no way harmed or repressed in the so called self-censorship of the game.

        As for that first amendment bit, I’d like to invite you to go read the damn thing, and then go read what Free Speech is. And then you’ll see wrtten, almost word for word, what I’ve shared above.

        One last reminder, the right to free speech and the first amendment do not protect you from social consequence, they protect you from imprisonment. A company that makes the call to remove objectionable content for publication in one or more territory in order to appeal to as wide an audience as possible is perfectly reasonable, because the result of not doing that is directly reflective in sales and bad press. Whereas leaving in the objectionable material digs them into a niche only a few angry gamers from those territories would want to touch with a ten foot pole.

        • Smug

          https://archive.fo/Lyzb6
          https://archive.fo/ZNzlg
          Here ya go, “hate speech” isnt an exception on First Amendment. You cant jew people on this. This is the reason (with the 2nd Amendment) why America remains best unlike Europe.

          and fuck your baby feelings. Anything can be “offensive” to you marxist fags.

          “So removing and/or finding concil to avoid making it is 100% ok.”
          So advocating for censorship and changing creative works to make less “offensive for poor little fee-fees”, like I said.

          “A company that makes the call to remove objectionable content for publication in one or more territory in order to appeal to as wide an audience as possible is perfectly reasonable”

          Trying to appeal to a wider audience never worked, even less for niche games that have already a small userbase in the first place. You only alienate your loyal consumers and gain nothing in the end.

          • Marmotte Desormiers Bourdeau

            >Trying to appeal to a wider audience never worked.

            What about Fire Emblem? The wii? Those didn’t work?

            I’d also argue the people here aren’t exactly what a company would consider “loyal consumers”.

            Back to the quesiton of free speech and the first amendment, again, the government might not be able to sanction against hate speech specifically, but it is able to restrict through human rights. Because every human has a right to security, your freedom stops where others’ begin.

            And this hasn’t been adressed yet, but since we’re talking about international products, I’d like to remind you that the USA isn’t the only country NoA has to worry about. It’s also responsible for Canada and Mexico. Canadian legislation completely bans sexual representation of minors under pedophilia laws. This includes drawn, written and modelized content. Non-explicit content is automatically shot up in ratings.

            Would you still argue that NoA should have pushed through Lin’s micro-bikini in Xenoblade X? Are things like common sense and empathy so far removed from you that you can’t see why it’s reasonable to get rid of it?

          • Smug

            There is a difference between a good goy who has absolutely no standards and the loyal userbase that was present for the games before the poor changes.

            “your freedom stops where MY FEELINGS begins”
            fixed that for you since it’s more your own argument
            Again it’s your marxist ideology that corrupts what the Constitution stands for.

            “Canadian legislation completely bans sexual representation of minors under pedophilia laws.”
            Lets remind that Canada is totally fine with bestiality (as long it’s not you giving the dicking to the animal) or forcing kids to watch LGBT shit and to mutilate their genitals (and parents who disagree with that education on transsexual bullshit gets their kids taken away to get raped by the local sex trade to the nearest center); So I wouldnt really take any example from there to justify censorship when insanity is dominating.

            not to mention trying to establish some kind of age of consent on fictional characters is quite stupid

            “Are things like common sense and empathy so far removed from you that you can’t see why it’s reasonable to get rid of it?”
            So far I have common sense unlike you do.
            I dont feel any empathy towards pussies who have a problem with a little bit of revealed skin in games however. Televised media gets a free pass on even worse shit but not games? Come on.

        • I assure you that Monolith Soft and Nintendo’s visions were in no way harmed or repressed in the so called self-censorship of the game.

          Based on what? Were you in the localization meetings?

          A company that makes the call to remove objectionable content for publication in one or more territory in order to appeal to as wide an audience as possible is perfectly reasonable,

          Objectionable based on whose standards? Yours?

          Whereas leaving in the objectionable material digs them into a niche only a few angry gamers from those territories would want to touch with a ten foot pole.

          You mean how Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 ran circles around Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE in terms of sales despite having “objectionable content”? Or how Nekopara Vol. 3 sold three times more than Tokyo Mirage Sessions by the time both games entered their second month of sales?

          You do know that there are facts and sales numbers widely available proving you wrong, and that it completely nullifies anything you just said, right?

          • Marmotte Desormiers Bourdeau

            1) Based on the article this piece is based on.
            2) Based on the localization team’s. Those people’s job is to know the market and culture into which they are translating a product.
            3) Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE lost all its hype due to it being an idol themed persona hybrid rather than a grimdark SMT crossover as was hinted during the initial teaser. Furthermore, the lack or presence of fan service in games is not the only factor coming into play when it comes to sales. Other explanations include system userbase (the wii u was a failure sales-wise), advertising, pre-order incentives, and price.

            Nekopara vol. 3 is like, what, 20$ at most?

            You have to look at the whole picture.

          • Based on the localization team’s. Those people’s job is to know the market and culture into which they are translating a product.

            Which is why they removed head-patting… based on a culture where head-patting is prohibited. Oh wait, head-patting isn’t prohibited. So where are you getting this from? Is there a market report saying head-patting is banned? Is there a survey saying that the target demographic thinks head-patting is disgusting? You derived a conclusion based on zero information available. As I said, unless you were in those meetings, you’re making blatant guesstimates based on your own ideals and absolutely nothing else.

            At which point one must ask, what makes you a more reliable barometer for demographic appeal than the people complaining?

            Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE lost all its hype due to it being an idol themed persona hybrid rather than a grimdark SMT crossover as was hinted during the initial teaser

            We call that mind-share. Do you have any market data or survey statistics to back up that this affected sales?

            Furthermore, the lack or presence of fan service in games is not the only factor coming into play when it comes to sales.

            Of course fan-service isn’t the be-all, end-all of a game, but negative mind-share spread about a game being censored from top to bottom within the core demographic market who planned to buy it would probably have an effect on the game.

            Other explanations include system userbase (the wii u was a failure sales-wise),

            That has no bearing on the Wii U’s software sales. Splatoon and Super Mario Maker, along with Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros., were all top sellers, even with the Wii U’s low install base.

            https://www.gamespot.com/articles/splatoon-joins-wii-u-bestseller-list-with-4m-sales/1100-6434410/

            https://venturebeat.com/2017/04/28/super-mario-maker-for-nintendo-3ds-passes-2-million-sales/

            advertising, pre-order incentives, and price.

            Advertising would be a factor if they were trying to reach people outside of the Shin Megami/Fire Emblem demographic. The game was aimed squarely at people within that demographic. Persona 5 and Nier Automata didn’t have the biggest advertising campaigns in the West, but the core demographics for those titles were well aware since the games were streamed and promoted by enthusiast media directed toward those markets, no different than Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE.

            Nier Automata and Persona 5 both easily sold over 1 million. Then again, they had positive mind-share leading up toward release due to not being censored or altered drastically from the original Japanese release.

            https://www.pcgamesn.com/nier-automata/nier-automata-sales-numbers

            http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-04-07-persona-5-ships-over-1-5m-copies-only-three-days-after-western-release

            Nekopara vol. 3 is like, what, 20$ at most? You have to look at the whole picture.

            Except Nekopara had no marketing campaign. It wasn’t widely advertised and received less than a fraction of the coverage that Tokyo Mirage Sessions did. Technically it should have sold less than what it did, but positive word of mouth, positive mind-share for the brand, and the promise of an uncensored patch helped the game hit and penetrate its target demographic with high sales volume.

            Business 101: you supply what consumers demand.

          • Marmotte Desormiers Bourdeau

            Nekopara appeals to a niche and very hardcore audience that is starved for games like it. RPGs are a dime a dozen in the world. It also benefits from Steam’s recommendation and queue system, that does the advertisement for it.

            #FE did get coverage, but a lot of it was negative and or confused. The mind-share you seem to be talking about wasn’t any good, and it wasn’t over cut content. It was definitely over the content itself being different than the idealised idea of what a Fire Emblem X Shin megami tensei crossover should be. It ended up being like neither of those games, and so failed to appeal to either demographics.

            Super Mario Maker, Smash and Mario Kart are unfair comparisons. Those are flagship titles made for the #1 recognized brand in video games. Many people bought a Wii U just to play mario games and nothing else.

            Persona 5 is the sequel to the most overhyped JRPG of the last era and is an exceptional game that far outclasses #FE. It also does so with very little fan service. Nier Automata is marketed for a mature audience and so isn’t relevant in the debate. Fan service doesn’t need to be cut from it.

            And while I don’t and can’t have the numbers and statistics for myself, I agree with your business 101. You supply what consumers demand. I’m sure Nintendo’s marketing teams are better at determining what their consumers want than you. They’ve poised themselves as a rather family-friendly brand, and they’ve got to preserve that brand.

          • Nekopara appeals to a niche and very hardcore audience that is starved for games like it. RPGs are a dime a dozen in the world.

            Incorrect. There are more than 670 visual novels in Steam’s database. There’s a very stiff market for competing visual novels, so only the high quality ones stand out, usually by word of mouth. This isn’t including visual novels sold exclusively through Nutaku or Denpasoft, or those directly sold through the publisher/distributor website.

            In fact, there are only 16 RPGs available on the Wii U, meaning that there should have been a far bigger market share available for Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE given the dearth of available RPGs on the Wii U, as evident with the sales of Splatoon (a shooter game that had very little competition on the Wii U).

            Many people bought a Wii U just to play mario games and nothing else.

            Right, but as mentioned, Splatoon was a new and unproven IP and sold millions.

            Nier Automata is marketed for a mature audience and so isn’t relevant in the debate. Fan service doesn’t need to be cut from it.

            Well it does when censorship still happened with Fatal Frame 5, and that was also marketed toward a mature audience.

            I’m sure Nintendo’s marketing teams are better at determining what their consumers want than you.

            If that were true then Tokyo Mirage Sessions wouldn’t have been outsold by a no-name nudie VN with zero marketing leading up to its release.

            They’ve poised themselves as a rather family-friendly brand, and they’ve got to preserve that brand.

            You couldn’t be more wrong.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayonetta_2

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster:_Day_of_Crisis

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Zero_2:_Wii_Edition

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_Gaiden_3#Ninja_Gaiden_3:_Razor.27s_Edge

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Third

          • Marmotte Desormiers Bourdeau

            The very vast majority of those 670 games are not eroges published on steam.

            In any case, the most important factor is definitely the overall game quality.

            Splatoon is definitely a standout, but no new IP from nintendo has ever received that amount of love and advertisement.

            As for the games you referece, Nintendo might have published them, but only one of them was developped by Nintendo. That game is Disaster: Day of Crisis, and that’s the project Monolith had been working on when they were bought out from Namco. Nintendo did eventually buy out the Fatal Frame franchise, but even stll, those 2 and, like, Eternal Darkness, are exceptions in a very, very large catalog of games.

          • The very vast majority of those 670 games are not eroges published on steam.

            Nearly a third of them are eroge or adult visual novels… 201 to be exact.
            http://store.steampowered.com/search/?term=nudity&tags=3799

            That’s still a heck of a lot of competition for Nekopara compared to Tokyo Mirage Sessions, and it still mopped the floor with it.

            Splatoon is definitely a standout, but no new IP from nintendo has ever received that amount of love and advertisement.

            Just like Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE, it was also in a starved genre, competing against only seven other games. Even still, when your competition on the market spans five years and only 15 other games, there’s absolutely no excuse that it would do that bad, especially when people absolutely did want a JRPG on the Wii U.

            As for the games you referece, Nintendo might have published them, but only one of them was developped by Nintendo.

            That’s a non-sequitur in relation to Nintendo having mature themed games on their system(s). They do have those games on their systems and do reach out to those markets beyond just kids and families.

            Nintendo did eventually buy out the Fatal Frame franchise, but even stll, those 2 and, like, Eternal Darkness, are exceptions in a very, very large catalog of games.

            And that has nothing to do with the fact that the censorship enacted by the localization team did nothing but alienate the target demographic that Tokyo Mirage Session #FE was marketed to.

  • Nekan Orion

    Fuck You NoA! Fuck You Reggie! Fuck You SJWs!

  • Guin

    Fucking hell man. At this point, this is cultural imperialism at work.

  • SevTheBear
  • DeeeFoo

    If this means that the Japanese and global releases of the game will have the same content from now on, since Treehouse is influencing the changes at the source itself, how will ANYONE know that censorship has even occurred?

    It used to be that we could just take screenshots from the Japanese and English versions and put them side-by-side and say “Look at this part here, this was censored.” But if both versions are the same, you can’t do that. In fact, would it still be considered censorship if both versions are the same?

    • Travis Touchdown

      It never was censorship to begin with, as the developers acknowledged, and accepted, the necessity of the changes.

      Take Fatal Frame V. Why were those costumes changed? Because of licensing issues with the brand that designed the clothes. Not because they were ‘too sexy.’ Keep in mind Bayonetta 2, a much raunchier game, launched the year before with no issues.

      It’s interesting how no one who covers these topics understands this kind of thing.

      • DizzyGear

        You’re the one who does not understand a thing because you have Nintendo’s dick rammed so far up your arse you are willing to excuse all the bullshit they pull no matter how inexcusable.

        Heres a pro commenting on the issue:

        The term does exist, and it is somewhat of a taboo in the translator’s trade. Originally it was used for things such as puns, which often failed to translate well between languages, but, as many pointed, is a slippery slope and things have degenerated into censorship and butchering of content. What these people are doing is unethical, immoral, and is a violation of the translator’s code of ethics. I took a major in translation. I know what I am talking about. I was trained in the field by real professionals. They always warned us of avoiding culturalization, especially to push an agenda.

        As a side note. Remember Okami? That was actual localization. They did their best to respect the source material and since it was impossible to omit the source culture, they made little to no changes to it. That was a game translated and localized ethically and with integrity.

        This is worse than the times of the Super NES when any and all religious symbols were cut and all content was toned down to be as family friendly as possible. Heck, as a child I played the SNES Breath of Fire II and it was less censored than this, I am sure I am not the only 10 year old boy who noticed Katt Chuan was wearing absolutely nothing below her waist.

        I think it is time to call a spade a spade. Call the evil by their name, or at least one of the names it is called. They are called many things, radical left, cultural marxists, regressive left, regressives, SJWs. But we all know what we are talking about. These parasites who infect the industry and alter things to their liking, ruining it for everyone else. They turn entertainment and art into political propaganda, and bully anyone within the industry who disagrees with them.

        https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/6i4elb/censorship_sharing_some_peoples_comments_on_igda/

        • Travis Touchdown

          >Pro
          >Reddit

          Ha ha ha ha. No.

    • Travis Touchdown

      It never was censorship to begin with, as the developers acknowledged, and accepted, the necessity of the changes.

      Take Fatal Frame V. Why were those costumes changed? Because of licensing issues with the brand that designed the clothes. Not because they were ‘too sexy.’ Keep in mind Bayonetta 2, a much raunchier game, launched the year before with no issues.

      It’s interesting how no one who covers these topics understands this kind of thing.

  • DizzyGear

    Someone should beat them over the head with this comic repeatedly until it sinks in.

    http://i.imgur.com/bAR5KK9.png

    • JustANerdWithARocketLauncher

      But most of the people in this thread have given up on buying nintendo products long before, saying “this is why I hate nintendo” so who’s the one who’s input should be ignored?

      • descent3031

        I think you’ve read the tone completely wrong. These are dissatisfied ex-customers, not non-customers. The former is a group you can win back by addressing the concerns they show, you can also avoid future mistakes that will alienate other customers by hearing them (this is why companies do exit surveys).

        The latter group are people who never have, and never will be your customer.

        • JustANerdWithARocketLauncher

          That’s weird because the people I know who talk about these issues do still buy nintendo products and support them, and call them out when they do things wrong. You assume the “SJWs” (who by the way don’t complain about this stuff as much as parents) don’t buy them, but if you guys actually looked at tumblr or other SJW outlets you’d see a lot of these people do buy nintendo products.
          You just want to pretend that people who haven’t bought their products in years are the market. Nintendo hasn’t been listening to the groups on here for a long time, and they are clearly doing fine without them, so if they aren’t buying nintendo then they’ve soared outside of the market and are no longer of their concern.

          • Alistair

            SJWs don’t need to buy any game to piss on a game for it content a good example is dead or alive 3 extreme.

            They manage to get rid of that game for the west But still not happy about that still piss on it in Japan only.

            VR of dead or alive 3 extreme is sexual assault according to them.

            Since koei chicken out due to fear of backlash. Hence why we got censorship in our games.

            Because no Devs have any faith on their products and it rather sad and pathetic.

          • VersVlees

            Which is stupid because the titty volleyball version of DOA always sold pretty well in the West.

            I guess it was the current year gaming media that was bitching about the sexy times in that game made Koei tecmo scared. Granted the whiners appear to be numerous and very vocal if seen from glorious Nippon but these people do not buy you game anyway.

            However, I will say this again Koei cucked out with Dead or Alive extreme but, at least play Asia was the laughing third man here.

          • Granted the whiners appear to be numerous and very vocal if seen from glorious Nippon but these people do not buy you game anyway.

            It’s not only that though.

            While the whiners might be a minority, they are also the same kind of people in control of the mainstream games media, mainstream media, news outlets, entertainment media, etc… basically the most powerful and influential institutions and organizations.

            All they have to do is contact each other at their website/medium (they are a network of SJW parasites) and in 24 hours they could ALL release a slew of articles that hammer the game and slander Koei Tecmo for being “misogynists”. When this happens, everyone sees it and the normies will swallow every word of it because the narrative is suddenly everywhere. I’m sure Koei Tecmo knows this.

            They have created an authoritarian fear-mongering climate in the Western video games industry and they know it. And they will try to excuse or justify it by screaming “muh moral compass” or “muh think of the children” or “muh misogyny”. Same excuses apply when they advocate for censorship.

            In fact, I do believe this is exactly what happened with the DOAX3 VR Expansion, there were a whole bunch of mainstream games sites and tech sites that called it a “sexual assault simulator”.

            So that’s the difference between SJWs and gamers. SJWs are the minority, but they have the control of the entire mainstream games and tech media which means that they have the loudest voice and are the most influential.

          • Exactly this.

            And just as an addendum, for all those people who say “But, but, but it’s just news articles!”

            WRONG!

            News affects investors, just like when Nintendo’s stock dropped because rumors spread the Nintendo Switch wasn’t going to be $250. Same thing happened after news media non-stop reported on Pokemon Go, which raised Nintendo’s stock profile, and then Nintendo had to inform investors they only had a minority stake in Pokemon Go, causing their stock to rapidly tumble.

            Perception is reality in the world of business, and even if what the SJW media is saying is flatout false, they can dictate the value of a company through the perception of headlines.

            I understand Koei cucked out by folding to the SJWs/feminists by not bringing over DOAX3, but I’m pretty sure the higher-ups were well aware of how much damage their overall portfolio would take amongst shareholders following non-stop headlines painting them as a misogynist organization peddling “sexual assault simulators”.

          • Perception is reality in the world of business, and even if what the SJW media is saying is flatout false, they can dictate the value of a company through the perception of headlines.

            This is precisely it. Even if it is false, the SJW media can just make things up and decide what a company is and decide their fate, all through their own biased and personal standards and agendas.

            The UK news media and tabloid newspapers does this all the time.

            It wouldn’t be so bad if normies didn’t completely suck up and swallow what they are told by the mainstream media, but the reality is, most of them do. And that’s whats lead to this pathetic whiny, crybully and perpetually-offended behavior in Western society.

          • VersVlees

            Weren’t these current year websites like kotaku, polygon and rock paper shot gun dying due to people getting their gamer news/reviews from youtubers/streamers?

            but you guys are totally right about the SJW parasites. They have infected large parts of the gaming media and it is sad to see that they try to directly influence Japanese devs too.

            I bet there are people who started playing Japanese games due to all the SJW’s whining in mainstream Western games.

          • Weren’t these current year websites like kotaku, polygon and rock paper shot gun dying due to people getting their gamer news/reviews from youtubers/streamers?

            I believe their visitor and readership numbers have gone down but I would not call it “dying”.

            The fact is that they are the mainstream games media and still get a massive amount of traffic. They are the first places that normies and newcomers go to for video game news, which speaks for itself.

          • Weren’t these current year websites like kotaku, polygon and rock paper shot gun dying due to people getting their gamer news/reviews from youtubers/streamers?

            I believe their visitor and readership numbers have gone down but I would not call it “dying”.

            The fact is that they are the mainstream games media and still get a massive amount of traffic. They are the first places that normies and newcomers go to for video game news, which speaks for itself.

          • More reason to destroy the current media industry completely and replace it outright.

          • More reason to destroy the current media industry completely and replace it outright.

  • Josh Sizzle

    Lol omg this entire comment section pissed off cuz they covered up some cartoon boob….i’m dead lmfao

    • Akai Kiri

      no, they are pissed off because said cartoon boob was only covered up in the american version, along with a number of other changes made for seemingly pointless reasons.

      They wanted to play the same game that was released in japan. not deal with shit like this.

      • JustANerdWithARocketLauncher

        Dude, why do you care so much about cartoon boobs. If you go outside you can find some real ones.

        • Smug

          As if a normalfag pleb like you could truly understand the wonders of 2D

        • Akai Kiri

          i don’t care about the cartoon tit. if i did i would go read some dirty manga or play some loli game or something like that.

          Once again your only argument is about cartoon tits. this is not the problem.

          if you can get your mind off of cartoon tits for a moment and look past them, i know its hard because they are fucking huge (unless your a pedophile and are thinking about flat chested lolis)

          you would be able to see the problem, which is that a small group of people literally dictate what is in the game. these very same people are the ones that want everyone to be included and represented. but in the process they remove anything they don’t think is “acceptable”

          now this is nintendo so many would argue that they need to keep the “family” image. but if this is true then why is the cartoon tit not removed from the japanese version too? the fact that there are differences in what is seen as “family” friendly is very different in japan than it is in america, but at the same time depending on where you are in america it can be very different as well. Which would mean that it is best left up to the parents what is and is not OK for there kids. (heaven forbid parents have to know what they are buying for there own kids)

          But im not sure the games in question are directly designed for young children. People develop differently and some people at the age of 10 are more mature than others. trying to make all content acceptable for the less mature individual only destroys the content for everyone else.

          now to be fair one thing is true on both sides of this – if you don’t like the game you should probably find one that you like better rather than demanding changes to the content. again, this works both ways.

          So think of it like this; next time you buy a game, give it to someone that hates videogames and play it after they make any changes they want to it. if oyu complain about literally anything they change, im going to call you out for complaining about what they did to the tits.

      • Josh Sizzle

        Who gives a fuck go jerk off to shit on pornhub

        • Smug

          >not sadpanda
          plebian

        • Akai Kiri

          better idea, YOU jerk off to something after we let your mother make any changes she wants to it. =)

          • Josh Sizzle

            Lmfao the only change ur mom wishes she could make is the descision not to abort ur dumb ass lool

          • Akai Kiri

            personal attacks already? this is why trump won.

  • Akai Kiri

    Next thing you know “Chess” will be censored/localized/culturized

    we cant have white people and black people fighting now can we?

    WE don’t have kings and queens that only represent TWO genders we have to make that include everyone!

    Bishops are racist! they represent the christian faith only are are harmful to muslims. they must be renamed to “people of faith”

    We don’t have knights in america. we must whitewash them and call them “justice heroes”

    The rook does not make sense. we don’t have moving castles. thats offensive! need to call them “forts” thats way more american!

    Pawns clearly need to be gender and race neutral. They are represented as black slaves controlled by the patriarchy! OFFENSIVE!
    (im at a loss for what to rename pawns to)

    I think i got the point across. No matter where you play chess its the same fucking game.any change to it would be bloody pointless. Nintendo is digging its own grave. localization and culturisation are fucking pointless.

    • DizzyGear

      Also all pieces would be gray in today’s world because if the white side wins from the black side that would be racist.

      • Alistair

        Pawns in shape of wheelchairs to show diversity.

    • Guin

      I call pawns niggers.

  • Bepfis

    Really roundabout way of saying “sjws will cause a fuss over tits”

  • Bepfis

    Really roundabout way of saying “sjws will cause a fuss over tits”

  • Bepfis

    Really roundabout way of saying “sjws will cause a fuss over tits”

  • Ash Velvet

    *Sigh* Nintendo, you take 3 steps forward and then 2 and a half back… I just don’t know what to say anymore…

  • Ash Velvet

    *Sigh* Nintendo, you take 3 steps forward and then 2 and a half back… I just don’t know what to say anymore…

  • Ash Velvet

    *Sigh* Nintendo, you take 3 steps forward and then 2 and a half back… I just don’t know what to say anymore…

  • SomeUser

    ….

    Fuck

  • SomeUser

    ….

    Fuck

  • Alfred Lou Card

    you cant know “cultural standards” by asking a small group of localizers that as of late have consisted of cocky radical feminist, pedophilia normalizing, ideology pushing assholes that hate their own user base. reggie says they dont push politics? does he even KNOW whats been going on with treehouse?

  • Alfred Lou Card

    you cant know “cultural standards” by asking a small group of localizers that as of late have consisted of cocky radical feminist, pedophilia normalizing, ideology pushing assholes that hate their own user base. reggie says they dont push politics? does he even KNOW whats been going on with treehouse?

  • Lishe

    Nintendo is ruined

    • Alex Chaudhari

      I don’t see a For Sale sign.

  • Γεώργιος Αρχαιοκαπηλίδης

    And yet Reggie claims that in Nintendo they don’t care about political correctness.

  • Γεώργιος Αρχαιοκαπηλίδης

    And yet Reggie claims that in Nintendo they don’t care about political correctness.

  • Now that we have confirmation that the Japanese developers of Nintendo are actually working with Western localizers to censor games for the West, it really is time for people to stand up, speak up and make it known to NOJ that you do not accept this practice. Unite and do it in significant numbers.

    This is especially aimed towards those who are still unsure and indecisive about the issue of censorship.

    Either speak up or face a future of censored video games.

  • Now that we have confirmation that the Japanese developers of Nintendo are actually working with Western localizers to censor games for the West, it really is time for people to stand up, speak up and make it known to NOJ that you do not accept this practice. Unite and do it in significant numbers.

    This is especially aimed towards those who are still unsure and indecisive about the issue of censorship.

    Either speak up or face a future of censored video games.

    • DizzyGear

      The worst part about this is how this reflects on the west in Japan. Japanese gamers did not take kindly to THEIR versions of games being censored as well because of the bullshit going on here. Like with that case with Star Ocean.
      I hope this interview gets translated and picked up Japan so Japanese gamers can give NoJ a piece of their mind.

    • Travis Touchdown

      You mean utilize SJW tactics?

      • No, I mean utilize a plan to stop SJWs from censoring video games by using facts, reason and logic.

        SJWs censor video games to have everything catered towards them and to exclude specific demographics. We are trying to stop it from happening so that when games are localized, everyone gets an option and/or material catered towards them, and that the game remains faithful to the Japanese original in all aspects.

        Don’t worry, maybe one day you’ll get the difference. Although I personally think that you’re so retarded that you’re beyond saving.

      • No, I mean utilize a plan to stop SJWs from censoring video games by using facts, reason and logic.

        SJWs censor video games to have everything catered towards them and to exclude specific demographics. We are trying to stop it from happening so that when games are localized, everyone gets an option and/or material catered towards them, and that the game remains faithful to the Japanese original in all aspects.

        Don’t worry, maybe one day you’ll get the difference. Although I personally think that you’re so retarded that you’re beyond saving.

    • Travis Touchdown

      You mean utilize SJW tactics?

  • Throwaway123

    Jesus Fuck, why do they always do shit like this. Man, this is why I have never liked Nintendo, they have been censorship happy since the 90s, and they have some of the biggest drone fans out there, and mind you, I owe no loyalty to any company just in case you yell bias before your ass turns red. I knew this shit was going to be infiltrated one way or the other and it just so happens to be from Nintendo, I really do hope other Japanese developers don’t follow suit. I have never like Reggie, everything about that guy screams LIES and deceit and he speaks in pure marketing rhetoric, that should tell you all about the guy, he doesn’t care about the community or about what fans want. This problem arises from developers not interacting with their customer nor knowing what they want, yet they pull these SJW cats off the streets and somehow they speak for all fans.

    Now we have to be wary of the shit they put out. Here in the West we already have thousands of example where you know games were censored from the beginning to appease the SJWs, Marvel right now is also feeling the heat and seeing what happens when they target SJWs and their core fanbase leaves, their comic book sales are down.

    What gave most of it away is the currently massive push for female protagonist, it happened so fast that any retard could easily see and tell it was deliberate.

    Some of you also have to do your part and e-mail Japan directly and tell them you don’t want your games censored and that those retards at the Treehouse are a bunch of low IQ retard that are there to subvert the medium, not help it.

  • Throwaway123

    Jesus Fuck, why do they always do shit like this. Man, this is why I have never liked Nintendo, they have been censorship happy since the 90s, and they have some of the biggest drone fans out there, and mind you, I owe no loyalty to any company just in case you yell bias before your ass turns red. I knew this shit was going to be infiltrated one way or the other and it just so happens to be from Nintendo, I really do hope other Japanese developers don’t follow suit. I have never like Reggie, everything about that guy screams LIES and deceit and he speaks in pure marketing rhetoric, that should tell you all about the guy, he doesn’t care about the community or about what fans want. This problem arises from developers not interacting with their customer nor knowing what they want, yet they pull these SJW cats off the streets and somehow they speak for all fans.

    Now we have to be wary of the shit they put out. Here in the West we already have thousands of example where you know games were censored from the beginning to appease the SJWs, Marvel right now is also feeling the heat and seeing what happens when they target SJWs and their core fanbase leaves, their comic book sales are down.

    What gave most of it away is the currently massive push for female protagonist, it happened so fast that any retard could easily see and tell it was deliberate.

    Some of you also have to do your part and e-mail Japan directly and tell them you don’t want your games censored and that those retards at the Treehouse are a bunch of low IQ retard that are there to subvert the medium, not help it.

  • Throwaway123

    Jesus Fuck, why do they always do shit like this. Man, this is why I have never liked Nintendo, they have been censorship happy since the 90s, and they have some of the biggest drone fans out there, and mind you, I owe no loyalty to any company just in case you yell bias before your ass turns red. I knew this shit was going to be infiltrated one way or the other and it just so happens to be from Nintendo, I really do hope other Japanese developers don’t follow suit. I have never like Reggie, everything about that guy screams LIES and deceit and he speaks in pure marketing rhetoric, that should tell you all about the guy, he doesn’t care about the community or about what fans want. This problem arises from developers not interacting with their customer nor knowing what they want, yet they pull these SJW cats off the streets and somehow they speak for all fans.

    Now we have to be wary of the shit they put out. Here in the West we already have thousands of example where you know games were censored from the beginning to appease the SJWs, Marvel right now is also feeling the heat and seeing what happens when they target SJWs and their core fanbase leaves, their comic book sales are down.

    What gave most of it away is the currently massive push for female protagonist, it happened so fast that any retard could easily see and tell it was deliberate.

    Some of you also have to do your part and e-mail Japan directly and tell them you don’t want your games censored and that those retards at the Treehouse are a bunch of low IQ retard that are there to subvert the medium, not help it.

    • This problem arises from developers not interacting with their customer nor knowing what they want, yet they pull these SJW cats off the streets and somehow they speak for all fans.

      The reason on why they do this is because SJWs have control of the mainstream games media, news outlets and are the influential ones. It comes from the fear-mongering climate that SJWs have created.

      Therefore, developers would rather ignore their own customers/gamers and instead choose to please the SJWs for positive PR and to protect themselves from being labeled as “misogynists” and “racists”.

      Regarding Japanese developers, there is an element of ignorance on their part because it seems that they’re only looking towards Western mainstream games media for researching Western trends. So basically, they’re only looking at cancerous sites like Kotaku and Polygon, and think that’s what the majority of gamers are in the West.

      If people want this bullshit to stop, then you need to completely kick the SJWs out of the mainstream games media and the video games industry.

    • This problem arises from developers not interacting with their customer nor knowing what they want, yet they pull these SJW cats off the streets and somehow they speak for all fans.

      The reason on why they do this is because SJWs have control of the mainstream games media, news outlets and are the influential ones. It comes from the fear-mongering climate that SJWs have created.

      Therefore, developers would rather ignore their own customers/gamers and instead choose to please the SJWs for positive PR and to protect themselves from being labeled as “misogynists” and “racists”.

      Regarding Japanese developers, there is an element of ignorance on their part because it seems that they’re only looking towards Western mainstream games media for researching Western trends. So basically, they’re only looking at cancerous sites like Kotaku and Polygon, and think that’s what the majority of gamers are in the West.

      If people want this bullshit to stop, then you need to completely kick the SJWs out of the mainstream games media and the video games industry.

  • Agitatius CEO of Rem

    Fuck Treehouse.

  • Agitatius CEO of Rem

    Fuck Treehouse.

  • Agitatius CEO of Rem

    Fuck Treehouse.

  • Never really liked Nintendo ’cause of their pro-censorship stance on life.

    But if this SJW bullshit starts spreading to Japanese devs for PS4 games (and other consoles) I’m just going to stop gaming again…

  • Megamatics

    The problem lies where Translators try to dictate what the audience wants rather than translating the game to best represent the understanding of the audience. You’re not just communicating what that text says, you’re telling us what that text means to Japanese culture. If you fill the fucking games with memes and shit then dump out anything you don’t like, it just becomes a beaten to shit version of the original product.

  • ElKonsolero

    I´m waiting how this pans out before throwing a ragefit but i´m not amused by this move. While the locals from europe are probably going to be fine because i don´t see a lot of SJWs in Gaming here, i´m not very fond of Treehouse and didn´t buy the new FEs due to the censorship even though i would´ve probably enjoyed the games.

  • plasmacutter

    We in the Anime Community used to suffer this garbage from localizers.

    Remember the cluster-F that was “robotech”, among other major gaffes?

    We settled the issue by boycotting localizers until they went out of business and were replaced with better ones.

    Do it here! I am! I haven’t bought nintendo in a decade for this very reason!

  • ThyPancakeConsumed

    I might not be biggest fan of games coming from Asia, but just like everyone else they have right to make games they want, but because of those rainbow colored fat snowflakes they cant. People who keeps industry running are called terrorists, harassers, misogynists, yet people who haven’t spent single cent on games, are calling shots on what okay and whats not. What a time to be alive.

  • Alistair

    Do you like the double bombshells they are Fucking determine to destroy the industry by stealth using censorship.

    Ninty is a lost cause they number three behind Microsoft and Sony.

    Ninty sells speak volumes the heavy edit of Fate:TM only manage 50.000 in a 2/3 month window that quite poor sells.

    I wonder why it fail to sell well, no other ninty games didn’t sell well two.

    That not a very good track record is it, the nomies will try to spin it as a good thing.

    You know a game done quite well if a title sold million with-in a week.

    Ecchi titles has a following but I know it not on the same scale as AAA titles.

    But Uncensored ecchi titles outdone the censored of the same title. So ninty want to lose money.

    Lastly about reggie and the CEO of monolith soft 1 word for you Cop-out do you really believe we stupid that you say Devs doesn’t mind self censored themselves.

    Thank god not every Devs thinks like you two. You are a Regression SJWs so I do not want your regression product. I hope you lose even more money and in the end your boss NoJ will have no choice to sack you.

  • Jason Murdock

    Considering the game will be launched world wide on the same day, if there is any Treehouse influence on it then Japan will have to deal with the same thing we will here in the west. I do have to wonder if they would push a “if this system is registered in the US, graphics are like this” thing.

  • EroBotan

    you know she has amazing boobs, but why her butt is so flat?

  • ScarredBushido

    HAHAAHAHA at this point i can’t even be angry anymore. im so glad i didn’t buy a switch because i knew this shit will continue. hopefully the jap devs tell them to get fucked but i doubt it.

    • EroBotan

      yeah, i really amazed with how japanese dev can put up with these SJWs ruining their games this long …

    • RichardGristle

      Thing is, how would the Japanese suits even know? It’s kind of scary to think about what kind of bullshit they’ve been/are going to be told. What lies about Western markets and culture are they being fed? It would be like going to Anita for a synopsis about gamer gate.

      • ScarredBushido

        well i think they know because the anger that was directed at Tokyo mirage even reached the Artist….also if they change the japanese version OH BOY you don’t want to fuck with the otakus they wont stand for that shit. since this game is more for them.

        • Smug

          To be honest, otakus would go more for a Sony system rather than a Nintendo one

          Though that doesnt change the issue at hand.

      • ScarredBushido

        well i think they know because the anger that was directed at Tokyo mirage even reached the Artist….also if they change the japanese version OH BOY you don’t want to fuck with the otakus they wont stand for that shit. since this game is more for them.

  • Mr Snow

    If only there was some kind of game ratings system that would tell people how mature a game was.

    If only Nintendo would realize the people playing their games were not pre teen babies.

  • Jack Thompson

    Profile pic related.

    Seething.

  • Jimmy

    Maybe if the devs for xenoblade 2 didn’t hire a hentai artist instead of a normal one for its character design, people wouldn’t of criticize it for coming of as otaku pandering

    • The only people who will buy XBC2 are Otaku, and they’ll make a heck of a lot more money appealing to that demographic from a hentai artist as opposed to hiring in some overweight welfare reject who got their skillz from Tumblr.

      • InkViper

        Comment of the day 🙂

      • JustANerdWithARocketLauncher

        You realize that most people hired to do video game art are extremely skilled artists. Nintendo’s not just going to hire someone off tumblr, they’d hire a real artist

    • Musushi Tamago

      Japanese devs hire artists who do hentai all the time.

      You know Valkyria Chronicles? Its character designer is known for drawing hentai with humongous boobs. Is it any worse because of it? Hell no.

      • Smug

        Satoshi Urushihara is a good example too

        • DizzyGear

          Or Rei Hiroe from the acclaimed Black Lagoon.

        • DizzyGear

          Or Rei Hiroe from the acclaimed Black Lagoon.

    • Smug

      Didnt stop Bruce Timm and Chris Sanders to make erotic drawings despite being more known for stuff aimed at kids

      Plenty of artists do that.

      • Yep, there’s a collection of Timm’s sketches online featuring various cartoon characters from popular kid shows.

        • Smug

          Too bad his artbooks cant be found unless you’re ready to pay an extra premium

    • Guin

      Says the apologetic SJW cuck.

    • DizzyGear

      So what if the artist did hentai? Its not all that uncommon for artists and even voice actors in Japan to have started their careers with hentai.

      The Japanese just don’t fucking care and just judge their work on its own merit. You could learn a thing or two from that attitude.

      • Kiryu

        Looking at his comments i doubt he could learn anything.

    • DizzyGear

      So what if the artist did hentai? Its not all that uncommon for artists and even voice actors in Japan to have started their careers with hentai.

      The Japanese just don’t fucking care and just judge their work on its own merit. You could learn a thing or two from that attitude.

  • Lord Seraph

    This is cultural imperialism.
    These SJWs are a plague. Political correctness needs to end.

    • a cult*
      plagues don’t care about being lazy slack-jawed grifters.

  • Gozu Tennoh

    I’ve been waiting a long time to see comments like this about nintendo.

    Havent bought a single nintendo product for 10+ years, maybe you guys should do the same…………………

  • jlnod15

    So books and video games… What groups of SJW’s are choking Movies? Also I look at movies from oversea’s. Because Well THERE SHIT IS DIFFERENT. I know it not video games. But this is just so bloody sad

  • TT

    i think what really makes this bad is: we KNOW how bad alot of their employees are. We know that people are trashing Japanese devs for doing their own thing. Christ, look at the shit flung at ATLUS with Persona 5, and that had a very decent translation.

    The big appeal of Japanese games is because it’s a different culture, because they don’t push politically driven bullshit, because they make the games they want. Hearing anything remotely related to “cultural relevance”, especially these days, simply kills that appeal and pushes the nonsense that has been going on for a long time now. This just killed any desire I had for any future games on the switch. Sure, maybe they’ll be some decent games that aren’t changed, maybe things won’t happen(or at least not a lot), but the problem is we know there has been a push, particularly from the shitstream media, for this kind of nonsense.

    • TT

      I’m done. Not even in an angry sense, I’m just done with Nintendo. Not even going to buy any of these games, and they look very appealing for the most part, but this will just set a precedent of allowing puritans to push Japanese devs around, it’s bad enough it happens already here to Western devs. I’m just…done.

  • TT

    …fuck, pirating it is i guess

  • Disqusted

    Yes, fit “cultural standards” that are set by the SJWs, a tiny percentage of the population. Great business decision. Not.

    Businesses think they’re doing the right thing by catering only to those who make the most noise. But they aren’t even customers.

    Regular/happy customers – buy products, stay relatively quiet.
    Angry/unhappy customers – buy products, complain until satisfied.
    SJWs – don’t buy products, throw tantrums, bully, abuse, infest, spread lies, nothing satisfies them.

    It’s literally like ignoring everyone over the age of 1 and focusing only on appeasing the wailing, screaming little babies. Maybe business people were just never educated on how to deal with such babies.

    When I watched the Nintendo E3 thing, I saw a woman with blue hair and asked a friend, “Blue hair? Nintendo is hiring SJW spokespeople?” and he said they’re Treehouse and have been there for a long while now. Dunno what Treehouse is, but it sounds like a special place for special little snowflakes.

    Same friend has been beyond disappointed and upset that every game they bought their WiiU for was censored to hell in the West, or just had really shitty localization. Their response to this news? “Ugh. That’s garbage. F**k the treehouse”. Good job alienating your customers, Nintendo.

    I’m pretty sure I’ve seen Japanese streams where people complained about how stuff is getting neutered because of Western audiences, feminists, etc. I doubt they will stop buying Nintendo because of it, but they clearly aren’t pleased either. Can’t blame them.

    Who in their right mind wants to be held down to the extreme regressive standard of a deranged 1 year old?

    • Alistair

      Wow the moment the woman step on stage we already know what a utter complete cop-out hiring a SJW feminist.

      Question why the blue hair, the answer is probably they didn’t like they normal hair that they were born with.

      My hair is like shit, brown lol 😂 The day I turn that shit to blue is the day I turn into a regression SJW cunt.

    • Alistair

      Wow the moment the woman step on stage we already know what a utter complete cop-out hiring a SJW feminist.

      Question why the blue hair, the answer is probably they didn’t like they normal hair that they were born with.

      My hair is like shit, brown lol 😂 The day I turn that shit to blue is the day I turn into a regression SJW cunt.

    • Alistair

      Wow the moment the woman step on stage we already know what a utter complete cop-out hiring a SJW feminist.

      Question why the blue hair, the answer is probably they didn’t like they normal hair that they were born with.

      My hair is like shit, brown lol 😂 The day I turn that shit to blue is the day I turn into a regression SJW cunt.

    • Businesses think they’re doing the right thing by catering only to those
      who make the most noise.

      It’s not only that though.

      They do it to virtue-signal for company PR points and to avoid getting labeled as “misogynists” and “racists” by the mainstream games media.

    • Businesses think they’re doing the right thing by catering only to those
      who make the most noise.

      It’s not only that though.

      They do it to virtue-signal for company PR points and to avoid getting labeled as “misogynists” and “racists” by the mainstream games media.

    • Mr.Towel

      What’s even sadder is that it’s a bad business decision all around.

      Nintendo already loses a portion of Japanese devs by refusing to release more risky/fanservicey games. Sony doesn’t have this problem… if they continue to double down on bullshit, on the long run, japanese devs will jump ship, go for Sony and show the middle finger to Nintendo.

      They’ll create a bad relationship with game developers and that’s much harder to heal. They’re fucked.

    • Mr.Towel

      What’s even sadder is that it’s a bad business decision all around.

      Nintendo already loses a portion of Japanese devs by refusing to release more risky/fanservicey games. Sony doesn’t have this problem… if they continue to double down on bullshit, on the long run, japanese devs will jump ship, go for Sony and show the middle finger to Nintendo.

      They’ll create a bad relationship with game developers and that’s much harder to heal. They’re fucked.

    • Mr.Towel

      What’s even sadder is that it’s a bad business decision all around.

      Nintendo already loses a portion of Japanese devs by refusing to release more risky/fanservicey games. Sony doesn’t have this problem… if they continue to double down on bullshit, on the long run, japanese devs will jump ship, go for Sony and show the middle finger to Nintendo.

      They’ll create a bad relationship with game developers and that’s much harder to heal. They’re fucked.

    • Travis Touchdown

      >Regular customers: Buy products, stay relatively quiet

      Hey, like Nintendo fans who don’t mind the changes.

      >SJWs: Don’t buy products, throw tantrums, bully, abuse, spread lies, nothing satisfies them

      Hey, just like you!

      • Smug

        “ur the SJWs”

        Do you even know what the acronym stands for, faggot?
        We’re against changes made for the purpose of satisfying some people that are more interested in politics & social (muh sexism, racism, muh diversity etc) and shoving those in established franchises & games, and thus make them as wide tools for marxist propaganda.

        inb4 you never reply as usual because too busy to be a good goy to Nintendo

        • Travis Touchdown

          Hi Smug! It’s been a while.

          But no, trying to present Nintendo localizations as being ‘SJW’ doesn’t fly considering the sheer amount of titles that go against their worldview. Take for example, Super Mario Bros. An SJW would never allow a franchise to revolve purely around saving a distressed damsel, but Super Mario Bros is famous for it. It has become the most well known example of the story line in modern times.

          In fact, there are plenty of times when SJWs have gone up against Nintendo games, only to fail hard. Take Tomodachi Life, where they tried to force developers to make the game gay. They had a stupid hashtag #Miiquality and everything, but they accomplished nothing.

          My point when comparing the likes of you to SJWs is that you are whining and crying about games you DO NOT PLAY for political reasons. You are not so different.

          • Smug

            Not surprising that your knowledge in vidya is low as ever. And it’s not like I ever expect you to play games in japanese too. (especially that learning japanese would require effort and some time)

            “My point when comparing the likes of you to SJWs is that you are whining and crying about games you DO NOT PLAY for political reasons. You are not so different.”

            Again, you are retarded as usual. The whole retort of “you’re as bad as SJWs” is moronic. Wanting to play foreign games that are faithfully translated and untouched from a visual and gameplay standpoint shouldnt be something to frowned upon, it’s actually having standards. But then again, I know you would rather defend at all cost a localized version, no matter how butchered it is, for the simple reason it’s translated in english and the fact you have no standards whatsoever.

            The truth is also that YOU complain that we dont suck up to companies (in this instance, Nintendo and its american branch, but that goes as well as for Sony and third-parties like Bandai Namco, Squeenix, Moenovel, etc which are known for bad practises too). Having some kind of allegiance to companies, and treating them like faceless individuals, is stupid as fuck. They’re not our friends. They’re business.

            Let’s hope your autism can process this train of thought

          • Smug

            Not surprising that your knowledge in vidya is low as ever. And it’s not like I ever expect you to play games in japanese too. (especially that learning japanese would require effort and some time)

            “My point when comparing the likes of you to SJWs is that you are whining and crying about games you DO NOT PLAY for political reasons. You are not so different.”

            Again, you are retarded as usual. The whole retort of “you’re as bad as SJWs” is moronic. Wanting to play foreign games that are faithfully translated and untouched from a visual and gameplay standpoint shouldnt be something to frowned upon, it’s actually having standards. But then again, I know you would rather defend at all cost a localized version, no matter how butchered it is, for the simple reason it’s translated in english and the fact you have no standards whatsoever.

            The truth is also that YOU complain that we dont suck up to companies (in this instance, Nintendo and its american branch, but that goes as well as for Sony and third-parties like Bandai Namco, Squeenix, Moenovel, etc which are known for bad practises too). Having some kind of allegiance to companies, and treating them like faceless individuals, is stupid as fuck. They’re not our friends. They’re business.

            Let’s hope your autism can process this train of thought

          • Smug

            Not surprising that your knowledge in vidya is low as ever. And it’s not like I ever expect you to play games in japanese too. (especially that learning japanese would require effort and some time)

            “My point when comparing the likes of you to SJWs is that you are whining and crying about games you DO NOT PLAY for political reasons. You are not so different.”

            Again, you are retarded as usual. The whole retort of “you’re as bad as SJWs” is moronic. Wanting to play foreign games that are faithfully translated and untouched from a visual and gameplay standpoint shouldnt be something to frowned upon, it’s actually having standards. But then again, I know you would rather defend at all cost a localized version, no matter how butchered it is, for the simple reason it’s translated in english and the fact you have no standards whatsoever.

            The truth is also that YOU complain that we dont suck up to companies (in this instance, Nintendo and its american branch, but that goes as well as for Sony and third-parties like Bandai Namco, Squeenix, Moenovel, etc which are known for bad practises too). Having some kind of allegiance to companies, and treating them like faceless individuals, is stupid as fuck. They’re not our friends. They’re business.

            Let’s hope your autism can process this train of thought

          • Minuteworld92

            I bet you’re one of those 30 year old nintendo dicksuckers that will buy that mario x rabbid crossover

    • Travis Touchdown

      >Regular customers: Buy products, stay relatively quiet

      Hey, like Nintendo fans who don’t mind the changes.

      >SJWs: Don’t buy products, throw tantrums, bully, abuse, spread lies, nothing satisfies them

      Hey, just like you!

    • Travis Touchdown

      >Regular customers: Buy products, stay relatively quiet

      Hey, like Nintendo fans who don’t mind the changes.

      >SJWs: Don’t buy products, throw tantrums, bully, abuse, spread lies, nothing satisfies them

      Hey, just like you!

    • Social justice ain’t much different from Scientology come to think of it. Only they rot you from the inside not the outside.
      Welcome the new ‘boss’ of the internet same as the old boss.
      Fortunately, we’re all used to the grind by now. And have better powerups

  • The gaming industry needs a serious restructuring. Almost everything about it is completely fucked. We never see this with books or movies. at least not to this insane extent.

    If they force Takaki to self-censor his Senran Kagura Switch game, I’m fucking done with Nintendo for good.

    • We never see this with books or movies. at least not to this insane extent.

      Sad Puppies ring a bell?

      • Kain Yusanagi

        “At least not to this insane extent”. There it’s just them gatekeeping awards ceremonies, and some of the publication companies. Yes, it’s bad, but it’s not as batshit nuts by comparison.

      • I forgot about that, but I maintain that we haven’t seen gatekeeping happen to books for a long time before Sad Puppies. At least not to the tyrannical extent video games have.

        • Guin

          Ehh, book censoring dabbled into excommunications and executions in the past so I wouldn’t give those a pass.

    • Disqusted

      The SJWs are everywhere.

  • Led_Stylus

    Just a small correction, Billy D. Nintendo of Europe is handling the localization, not Treehouse. They actually have a decent pedigree. Check InkViper’s comments.

    • Thanks. I made the edit to clarify that.

      • Led_Stylus

        No problem. You’re a refreshing step up from asshats like Jason Schreier, who also did that God forsaken article. Not one mention of the backlash against the omission of the bust slider. Not even add information of the fact that Western MMOs had character options like that for more than a decade longer than XCX has and no one complained, which would have shown Takahashi how wrong he was about the Western market.

        • Thanks. I guess I should have included the XCX stuff for further context, but I didn’t include the XCX stuff in this particular article because it was covered so much in all our other coverage. Plus it seemed a bit out of the way compared to the theme of focusing on the way the localizers will be focused on affecting Japanese development, and if the article gets too long it will be penalized by Google.

          • Led_Stylus

            Ah, no. My other comment was my pent up frustration with Schreier

          • Oh okay.

          • Oh okay.

          • Oh okay.

          • Alistair

            Now about google you know I’m not a great fan of google, with the censorship on YouTube.

            But I give google some credit. Censored gaming also cover a mobile game compare between apple IOS and google ANDROID.

            1 was censored the other one was not, the censored one was on Apple IOS and the uncensored one was on google Android.

            so google get a plus for that. Then your last article shows how out of touch apple is really are by banned games that have Pepe the frog.

          • Alistair

            Now about google you know I’m not a great fan of google, with the censorship on YouTube.

            But I give google some credit. Censored gaming also cover a mobile game compare between apple IOS and google ANDROID.

            1 was censored the other one was not, the censored one was on Apple IOS and the uncensored one was on google Android.

            so google get a plus for that. Then your last article shows how out of touch apple is really are by banned games that have Pepe the frog.

          • Alistair

            Now about google you know I’m not a great fan of google, with the censorship on YouTube.

            But I give google some credit. Censored gaming also cover a mobile game compare between apple IOS and google ANDROID.

            1 was censored the other one was not, the censored one was on Apple IOS and the uncensored one was on google Android.

            so google get a plus for that. Then your last article shows how out of touch apple is really are by banned games that have Pepe the frog.

  • RetroGamer

    The “Tree House” is the worst part of Nintendo.

  • Kiryu

    Go fuck yourself Nintendo,seriously go fuck yourself.I was willing to reconsider my stance to never buy a Nintendo console after the Wii U but this seals it,i’m done with this company.

    • Grahav

      Nintendo’s games are recognized everywhere. It became a global(ist) phenomenon.

      The success transformed it in another money whore.

      🙁

      • technically it was the Wii that did it. When they were on the ropes and afraid of going broke they put out decent quality.
        But with a $12billion nest egg, they can ‘experiment with new demographics’ and don’t care about ‘breaking even’
        Same thing that killed every other game company.

    • Grahav

      Nintendo’s games are recognized everywhere. It became a global(ist) phenomenon.

      The success transformed it in another money whore.

      🙁

    • cyanlaser121

      k bye

    • cyanlaser121

      k bye

    • Giro

      Good riddence

    • Alex Chaudhari

      Triggered much because of anime games? Because that’s technically what its boiling down to.

  • Minuteworld92

    fuck this.

  • giygas

    Ninty can keep their brick. My wallet remains closed.

  • RichardGristle

    This whole thing just continues to be super gross. Treehouse raping products is the #1 reason I never bought a Wii U and have no plans thus far of picking up a Switch.

    They should just start making 2 versions of games: a normal version for those that aren’t mentally ill and a blue-hair version for the retards that constantly complain more about game content than they spend actually playing games.

    They probably don’t need to bother producing too many copies of the latter.

    • They should just start making 2 versions of games: a normal version for those that aren’t mentally ill and a blue-hair version for the retards that constantly complain more about game content than they spend actually playing games.

      This is basically like the “Safe Mode” idea for video games that has been suggested before, you know one mode for the normal gamers and one mode for the whining crybullies within the game.

      I can tell straight away that SJWs and feminists do not accept that. This is generally the response you’ll get if you bring that idea up to an SJW:

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f29034c946fed70ee867e5f61755638245d60d7130d56cbe0985f2f72a0c4321.jpg

      Always remember that SJWs are authoritarians. They preach “diversity” and “inclusiveness” but do not practice it.

      • I need to stand near a microwave for a few minutes. The radiation might help cure the cancer I got from Aenea’s comment.

        http://s3.media.squarespace.com/production/465215/5366925/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/last-7.png

        • Mr.Towel

          We’ll need a double dose. I think cancer could get cancer from that.

        • Mr.Towel

          We’ll need a double dose. I think cancer could get cancer from that.

        • Mr.Towel

          We’ll need a double dose. I think cancer could get cancer from that.

        • Akai Kiri

          there is not enough brain bleach to cure that one… holy fuck those people are annoying.

      • RichardGristle

        “It’s not really about offensive content, it’s about me controlling every facet of your life.”

        What life events even leads someone to feel this way?

        I had to crack a chuckle @ the whole “People aren’t born this way” thing. The “sexist” shit they complain about includes things like saving princesses and thinking hot girls are attractive. Yeah pretty sure both of those concepts are biological.

      • TT

        why, oh why, do i get the impression of a white neckbeard desperate for sex reading Aenea’s comment

        • From what I remember, the person claimed to be a woman of colour.

          However, as we all know, anyone can be anyone on the Internet…

        • ThyPancakeConsumed

          Because he is.

      • Saizo Art

        Good Lawd this Aenea sounds like a conformist pile of safe-shit. I can play whatever the hell I want and it doesn’t necessarily make me racist/sexist or whatevs. She’s bringing the decade old bullshit of “violence in video games making children violent” which has already been debunked years ago to be false.

        People who cannot differentiate fantasy or reality are the problematic ones who blur the lines and start misbehaving, but us normal folk shouldn’t have to be punished for their mistakes.

      • Funny, but that reminds me of the original DMC where if you died too much Kamina would move you into “pussy babyman mode”

    • Alex Chaudhari

      It was anime titles that prevented you from doing that.

  • Nick

    >complaining about people who are “triggered” by stuff that could be potentially offensive because yes not all cultures are the same
    >literally being so triggered by this that you feel the need to angrily complain about it online

    • Disqusted

      Censoring everything under the same umbrella because someone somewhere out there might get triggered by something if they perceive it a certain way is definitely not a good way to go about doing anything.

    • RichardGristle

      Пролетарии всех стран, соединяйтесь!

    • Smug

      yes keep being a good goy for those amiboo figurines

    • Smug

      yes keep being a good goy for those amiboo figurines

    • Smug

      yes keep being a good goy for those amiboo figurines

    • Guin

      It’s like it’s not consumers’ right to complain about product changes they don’t like. WOWZERS!

  • Nanya

    Nintendo deserves no money. If they’re going to do this, they deserve nothing.

    How sad, it looked like they were getting better with the new Metroid games.

    But now this crap.

    If you get Nintendo stuff, get it used, give them zero dollars.

    • Well, we’ll see how bad it is with Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Based on the trailers and gameplay footage the lead chick still has big boobs and a slutty outfit, so if that stays intact then it’s not all bad.

      The problem is that whatever changes they make we’ll likely never know about it because now they’re going directly to the source, and we have no idea what the localizers are trying to influence the Japanese devs with. We’ll definitely find out when the game releases for the Switch.

      • Disqusted

        I will laugh hard if they flatten her chest and cover all skin before release. Then when people legimately complain at the blatant censorship, they will get slandered by the mainstream for “objectifying females” and “being GamerGate” or some bullshit.

        It’s all a trap to create more outrage and clickbait.

      • Led_Stylus

        The defaults outfits? Maybe so. I’m more curious about how the alternate armor/outfits will be handled. In the first Xenoblade, you can strip the characters to their trunks, and ther was no shortage of bikini armor as well. IN XCX, the armor got even more risqué with giving the ladies playboy bunny outfits as a few of the other selection of provocative attire. NoE remained faithful to XC1 and not censor the armor, while NoA axe the bust slider and censored XCX’s sexy armor for Lyn, and the fundoshi for everyone for some baffling reason–nobody was able to find any concrete answer to why!

        • Alistair

          Question did NoE remove the burst slider for EU/UK market?

          • Led_Stylus

            I wouldn’t think NoE would have had much if anything to do with that idea. XCX was a huge game in size and the company wanted a simultaneous NA/EU. It’s not like projects like Kirby’s Epic Yarn, Yoshi’s Woolly World, or Trifore Heroes, where they were much simpler games to localize and why both EU & NA localized independently from one another with 3 month long release gaps between them. NoA was put in full charge of localizing, which took 8 months to do with how huge the game is. If NoE were to localize independently, it would delay the EU release further, and the game took forever to come out in Japan alone. So NoE would have to comply with NoA’s bullshit changes for a simultaneous release, leaving NoE with maybe only translating the English script for other countries as NoA localized. The same would apply to FE:Fates and TMS, which also had equally long localization time.

          • Alistair

            So the short answer is NoE remove the tit slider yes, Under NoA control.

          • Led_Stylus

            I wouldn’t think NoE would have had much if anything to do with that idea. XCX was a huge game in size and the company wanted a simultaneous NA/EU. It’s not like projects like Kirby’s Epic Yarn, Yoshi’s Woolly World, or Trifore Heroes, where they were much simpler games to localize and why both EU & NA localized independently from one another with 3 month long release gaps between them. NoA was put in full charge of localizing, which took 8 months to do with how huge the game is. If NoE were to localize independently, it would delay the EU release further, and the game took forever to come out in Japan alone. So NoE would have to comply with NoA’s bullshit changes for a simultaneous release, leaving NoE with maybe only translating the English script for other countries as NoA localized. The same would apply to FE:Fates and TMS, which also had equally long localization time.

          • Led_Stylus

            I wouldn’t think NoE would have had much if anything to do with that idea. XCX was a huge game in size and the company wanted a simultaneous NA/EU. It’s not like projects like Kirby’s Epic Yarn, Yoshi’s Woolly World, or Trifore Heroes, where they were much simpler games to localize and why both EU & NA localized independently from one another with 3 month long release gaps between them. NoA was put in full charge of localizing, which took 8 months to do with how huge the game is. If NoE were to localize independently, it would delay the EU release further, and the game took forever to come out in Japan alone. So NoE would have to comply with NoA’s bullshit changes for a simultaneous release, leaving NoE with maybe only translating the English script for other countries as NoA localized. The same would apply to FE:Fates and TMS, which also had equally long localization time.

        • Alistair

          Question did NoE remove the burst slider for EU/UK market?

      • Alistair

        That why we need censored gaming even more they even discover more things that was change about two weeks ago.

        Besides can you really believe a Dev/localise team that going to direct source because it got all the hallmarks of making it easy to hide things from gamers.

        NISA get burnt from angry gamers about censorship in criminal girls 1 and 2 but NISA was upfront about it. Because they told the parent company Nippon icchi to made changes.

        I wouldn’t trust ninty or monolith soft ever again they sold out.

      • Alistair

        That why we need censored gaming even more they even discover more things that was change about two weeks ago.

        Besides can you really believe a Dev/localise team that going to direct source because it got all the hallmarks of making it easy to hide things from gamers.

        NISA get burnt from angry gamers about censorship in criminal girls 1 and 2 but NISA was upfront about it. Because they told the parent company Nippon icchi to made changes.

        I wouldn’t trust ninty or monolith soft ever again they sold out.

    • Giro

      Nintendo deserves every penny they have, because they’re the ones who earned it. Not you. You didn’t put a single ounce of effort in developing Smash Bros or BOTW or (insert any Nintendo game you enjoyed), so you have no say in whether they deserve the money *consumers gave them in exchange for a product*.

      Maybe you feel Nintendo doesn’t deserve YOUR money, thats fine. However, all of the money they have is money that was given to them (and not for free). They don’t have to localize games you know. There is no such thing as censorship when you only sell to your own country. You aren’t entitled to experience anything any japanese company makes, so when they make something available, how about showing a little gratitude?

      I’m not telling you to buy a product that you don’t want, but don’t act like its the end of the damn world every time someone changes something in a product BEFORE you bought it.

      • Nanya

        Oh look, someone who’s advocating for censorship.

        • Giro

          I’m not advocating for censorship, I’m advocating against idiotic behavior.

          • Nanya

            If we don’t make noise against this kind of B.S. then nothing changes and it gets worse.

          • Minuteworld92

            by sucking nintendog’s dick broh

          • Giro

            Everything I’ve said can just as easily be applied to any other company but since Nintendo is the topic of the article I used them as an example.

          • Giro

            Everything I’ve said can just as easily be applied to any other company but since Nintendo is the topic of the article I used them as an example.

          • If you want to advocate against idiotic behavior then I suggest you start with NOA and Treehouse.

          • If you want to advocate against idiotic behavior then I suggest you start with NOA and Treehouse.

      • Nanya
      • Smug

        People are entitled to have standards when their money is at stake, and there is nothing wrong with it. That includes shitting on poor translation and censorship (the latter soon affecting both western and original versions with the reveal of western localizers telling lies to jap devs).

        Just because you’re apathetic or/and have low standards doesnt mean everyone should do the same.

        • Giro

          I won’t tease you for lacking reading comprehension skills but maybe you should re-read my last paragraph and stop acting like you’re so much smarter than everyone else because you’ve practically misunderstood everything I said so far.

          Like I said in my last paragrapgh, people are entitled to do whatever they want with their money. You can decide not to support a company for any reason you see fit. However, they don’t have the right to decide who deserves their money and who doesn’t. They have a right to their opinion, but don’t treat it as a fact and try to make everyone abide by it.

          • Smug

            No, what you said was pretty clear in the sense that you’re a good goy telling us that we shouldnt say anything negative on something (especially when it’s related to Nintendo in your case) if we didnt buy it first.

            Also nice attempt to blur the line between opinions and facts.

          • Giro

            Now that is hilarious. I knew you were hard to talk to but now you’re straight up claiming that you know what I said better than I do. Okay. Whatever you say. I know what I said and exactly what I meant, but since you know me better than I do then I guess I must be absolutely wrong in this as well.

            I’ll give you a chance to write your post again because you obviously have a problem with losing arguments.

          • Not to interject here, but translating is not censorship.

            Linguistics is about the transference of ideas through spoken or written lexicon. Not every language uses the same lexicon for the transference of those ideas to a 1:1 ratio.

            However, every language allows you to express the same ideas through a different set of expressions. I would say a large percentage of the Japanese language cannot be used to transfer ideas through their standard expressions and syntax in a 1:1 ratio to English due to the structure of their langauge, therefore you need to find similar expressions in English to represent the exact same ideas from Japanese to English.

            Finding ways to precisely convey iconography or linguistic expressions from one language to the next is not censorship, especially when the goal is to accurately display what the ideas behind the language mean, which is exactly what Atlus did with Persona 5. It was as close to a 1:1 as you could get, given that it was about retaining all of the ideas of the Japanese language conveyed through readable and understandable English expressions.

            In that way, it was about bringing over those ideas, not culling them. To cull, or remove, or suppress, would be censorship. To convey, to portray, or to express, as accurately as possible, is proper translation.

            The issue most people have with localization, is that certain localization outfits don’t simply translate, they acculturate the content and expressions to what they feel best suits American sensibilities; changing food, character names, expressions, story themes, or even character personalities. And in some cases, like in Blade & Soul or Fire Emblem: Fates, altering quest-lines, removing dialogue, or changing story depictions from the original in order to better suit the localizers’ sensibilities and tastes.

            In the case of localizers removing content… it’s no longer about translation but about censorship. Most fans would prefer translations as close to the original as possible, without removing or culling content.

            Does that make sense?

          • Giro

            Yes, that makes a lot of sense and I can definetely understand why those extreme cases can make people upset. Also, thank you for being respectful.

        • Giro

          I won’t tease you for lacking reading comprehension skills but maybe you should re-read my last paragraph and stop acting like you’re so much smarter than everyone else because you’ve practically misunderstood everything I said so far.

          Like I said in my last paragrapgh, people are entitled to do whatever they want with their money. You can decide not to support a company for any reason you see fit. However, they don’t have the right to decide who deserves their money and who doesn’t. They have a right to their opinion, but don’t treat it as a fact and try to make everyone abide by it.

        • Giro

          I won’t tease you for lacking reading comprehension skills but maybe you should re-read my last paragraph and stop acting like you’re so much smarter than everyone else because you’ve practically misunderstood everything I said so far.

          Like I said in my last paragrapgh, people are entitled to do whatever they want with their money. You can decide not to support a company for any reason you see fit. However, they don’t have the right to decide who deserves their money and who doesn’t. They have a right to their opinion, but don’t treat it as a fact and try to make everyone abide by it.

      • Minuteworld92

        stopped reading after the first sentence.

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        DICK SUCKING FANBOY MUCH? HOW OLD ARE YA BRO? 46 AND YOU STILL SUCK NINTY’S DICK? WOW DOOD YOU’VE SEEN THAT MARIO AND RABBIDS CROSSOVER BRO? CRAZY RIGHT? OH WAIT YOU’RE ACTUALLY GONNA BUY IT? YOU THINK IT’S A FANTASTIC IDEA? WOW DOOD THAT’S CRAZY.

      • There is no such thing as censorship when you only sell to your own country.

        What an utter abortion of a comment. Dear lord.

      • There is no such thing as censorship when you only sell to your own country.

        What an utter abortion of a comment. Dear lord.

      • I wouldn’t have developed any games that were that shit!
        Go try some adult games, kiddo.

      • I will say, that last line doesn’t apply very well to the PC side of things anymore. (I know that’s not what the article is about, just pointing out it’s no longer universal, and Konami and Capcom both got in hot water before for pulling similar “PC-updates-on-console” content removal hijinks)
        As long as there is a drive to put half of the game online, it’s going to remain a possible issue going forwards now.
        This is especially true of kickstarter-funded (run out of time/money to meet extended goals, or remove content to garner ‘mass appeal’ (that is it was content preventing it from getting on Steam)) or Greenlight “Alpha builds” (devs just plain getting lazy or burnt out and removing more difficult things to work on) Gabe’s got a lot of leeway on content, so when something does fall ‘on the wrong side’ the removal is noticeable.
        Now granted this is more a lower-end-to-indie problem, but companies with lengthy PR nightmare histories like EA have become quite lax in informing anyone when they do these sorts of things, at this point seemingly because they have enough of a market spread that one genre’s sales cover boycotts in another so they never feel like they “lose” anything.

  • Kamelguru

    I want to apologize to 4Kids entertainment. I used to compare the censorship of games to your butchering of One Piece and Yu-Gi-Oh. But it has now become abundantly clear that you are positively benign compared to Treehouse and Nintendo, who is killing artistic vision before the brush even leaves the proverbial canvas.

    • Nanya

      At least 4Kids was amusing to make fun of.

    • Disqusted

      They all suck as far as I’m concerned. Less shitty is still shitty.

    • Alex Chaudhari

      How are they killing artistic vision? There’s a lot of valid complaints, but this isn’t one of them or one of the main ones.

  • Bigfatdane

    Hmm, the only thing to do here in response is to give Nintendo the Marvel Comics treatment. Don’t buy the games, don’t buy the products and don’t encourage others to buy the games and products either.

    Nintendo has chosen their audience with this stunt and sadly their new target audience is not their consumers, but a collection of tumbler/Twitter cry babies who will rarely spend any cash on their products.

    Let Nintendo go the way of the SEGA.

    • That’s not fair.

      At least Sega has turned around.

      • Disqusted

        I wouldn’t say they’ve turned around, just going by how they’ve been treating PSO2 like a big social experiment, instead of a game.

        I see all the huge PSO2 gatherings and parties and events and collaborations with shirt stores and undie stores and shit, and I just think “What the hell is this shit? What happened to Phantasy Star?” and that’s without even looking at how far from the original material they’ve gone astray.

        That’s not to say that some people shouldn’t be allowed to play PSO2 or anything. What I’m saying is there’s a big difference between people playing a game because they actually like the game, and people playing it just because their f**king friends are talking about it.

        • That does sound shitty, but in terms of producing games people want, they’ve been doing pretty well.

          • Bigfatdane

            Ehh, that’s debatable.

          • Sure, but I’ve been enjoying them as a company for about a year, now.

          • Bigfatdane

            And I have had to sit through 15 years of SEGA keeping all their good games confined to Japan while exporting lousy Sonic games and half assed sequels.

            So SEGA in my eyes is a disgrace whose only good game this year is produced by a collection of fans.

          • They’re discussing releasing Yakuza and Persona on PC. It’s not all bad. Certainly doesn’t make up for the years where they did nothing but snort coke and fart out blue amoeba packaged as a Sonic game.

          • Bigfatdane

            I’ve played Yakuza on the PS4, trust me on this. It’s a very good looking button masher with a really poor story and flat characters.

          • Minuteworld92

            bait.

          • Bigfatdane

            One word response huh, well, allow me to counter you.

            Yakuza 0 is an “open world” game in which you play as two characters that needs to unlock skill boosts, health boosts and defense boosts for three different fighting skills per fighter.

            You unlock these skills by spending in game money that you earn by completing story missions , fighting against random enemies found on the world map or chance gimmicks. The styles have boosts of three levels for you to unlock with the first and easiest boosts to unlock costing you 400,000. Yen. The second level boosts costs two million and the last level boosts costs you 30 million each. All fighting styles have a minimum of 15 boosts to unlock.

            Street fighting rapidly becomes your only way of earning cash by taking on either three thugs in a brawl that can earn you between 5,000. to 20,000. yen based on your fighting skills or you can go up against a sub boss character that carry a random amount of money that is always above a million.

            You also need yen to purchase health potions to recover after or doing fighting to prevent yourself from losing cash so that is a net drain on you cash amount as well.

            Basically, Yakuza 0, is a button masher that has you go through fight after fight against similar looking NPCS in order to level up your character so he can stand a better chance against boss characters.

          • Bigfatdane

            One word response huh, well, allow me to counter you.

            Yakuza 0 is an “open world” game in which you play as two characters that needs to unlock skill boosts, health boosts and defense boosts for three different fighting skills per fighter.

            You unlock these skills by spending in game money that you earn by completing story missions , fighting against random enemies found on the world map or chance gimmicks. The styles have boosts of three levels for you to unlock with the first and easiest boosts to unlock costing you 400,000. Yen. The second level boosts costs two million and the last level boosts costs you 30 million each. All fighting styles have a minimum of 15 boosts to unlock.

            Street fighting rapidly becomes your only way of earning cash by taking on either three thugs in a brawl that can earn you between 5,000. to 20,000. yen based on your fighting skills or you can go up against a sub boss character that carry a random amount of money that is always above a million.

            You also need yen to purchase health potions to recover after or doing fighting to prevent yourself from losing cash so that is a net drain on you cash amount as well.

            Basically, Yakuza 0, is a button masher that has you go through fight after fight against similar looking NPCS in order to level up your character so he can stand a better chance against boss characters.

          • Sure, but I’ve been enjoying them as a company for about a year, now.

      • Bigfatdane

        And it only took an impending bankruptcy and total mockery of their name and brands to make them understand.

        • If only it happened more often, honestly.

    • Alex Chaudhari

      How defeatist and ruthless are you to have a no forgiveness attitude? It makes you an SJW yourself.

      • Bigfatdane

        I tried that forgiveness approach with comics and cartoons and look where we are now.

        Come wise Marvel is dead, DC is getting ready to do the SJW again, Archie is cucked beyond repair, image is joining them and IDW just can’t stop shilling the blue pills.

        Cartoon wise: CN/Cartoon Network is blue pilled, Disney can’t stop preaching the pro feminist garbage and don’t even get me started on nickelodeon.

        And TV in general have been a lost cause for decades, same for Hollywood.

        Forgiveness and turning the other cheek doesn’t work, so its time for the scorched earth tactic instead.

        • Alex Chaudhari

          You know that scorched Earth policy makes you turn into an SJW in the long run when you are determined to undermine some form of creativity. You will be a villain for making things extinct due to feelings. That’s called NeoCon tactics mixed with 1950’s Christian values. I don’t do Right wing SJWs like I don’t do Left wing SJWs.

          • Bigfatdane

            Why are you contacting me than if you don’t want to deal with people like me?
            Honestly, your hurt fee fees don’t concern me nor do I care about them.
            The way I see it, you are part of the problem because you are willing to roll over and let every lunatic SJW march all over you to avoid offending someone’s feelings.
            Creativity is something I approve off and I feel that everyone has a right to create what they want to. But if your creativity comes with the price tag of ruining everything I care about because you can’t think of something to make on your own, you can just fuck off.
            My money will be spent on what I like, and if Nintendo wants to insult me based on my skin color, sexual orientation and political alignment to appease your kind, well tough luck, my money stays with me.
            Oh, and I’ll happily inform everyone I know that Nintendo hates straight white males so they can make the same choice based on how they feel about it.

          • Alex Chaudhari

            If Nintendo hates straight white males (Which is not even true) why are most of their character IP’s Caucasian or alien like creatures or anthromorphic animals? Even their mascot is white who even said “So long gay Bowser”. The only thing they did wrong was piss off anime fans (who are already tempermental as fuck). For someone who thinks gaming shouldn’t be political you sure are demanding they are on a certain group.

          • Bigfatdane

            Again, why are you contacting me if you dislike people like me who don’t follow your policy of turning the other cheek?

            And get off your moral high ground/horse. I was perfectly happy to play my games in peace until SJWs decided everything had to political and that everything straight white males like me enjoys is problematic and in need of changing so its no longer fun for me.
            I didn’t make the debate political, you and your kind did.

  • SJW culture needs to die already. People being triggered by he/she pronouns, genders, white males, they’re not the demographics. Someone here said Reggie likes money, well shit they shouldn’t censor their games then!

    • Disqusted

      I’m sure he likes Soros money more than our money.

    • Alistair

      Reggie likes money lol 😂 he got a strange way to show it.

      Golden rule: go down the censorship road be prepared to expect loss of sells, it look NoJ hate money too.

      • most US execs get bonuses from both company and shareholder. He’s likely making bank even as they fall.

    • Alistair

      Reggie likes money lol 😂 he got a strange way to show it.

      Golden rule: go down the censorship road be prepared to expect loss of sells, it look NoJ hate money too.

  • Mike Campbell

    Am I the only one that don’t give a shit as long as the gameplay and story is fateful

    • Daredevil

      Yes, you’re the only one. And you’re also a moron.

    • Kain Yusanagi

      >story is faithful
      See, that’s the problem. THAT’S what we’re complaining about, because it never is with the changes they make.

    • Disqusted

      You’re probably the only one who hasn’t seen how they keep f**king up the story with their shitty localizations.

      I might even argue that fictional aspects that people want to enjoy in a fictional environment like a game, are somewhat part of the gameplay.

      For example, I have a friend who likes boobs (OH SHIT). He was not pleased that they removed the boob slider in Xenoblade Chronicles. They also removed Japanese voices. These things didn’t stop him from playing the game, but it did disappoint him greatly and affected his overall enjoyment.

      There were other games he was going to buy (Tokyo Mirage Sessions was one of them) but decided not to because they removed so many other things he liked.

    • Alistair

      Maybe just maybe you are a self confess SJW cuck.

      How can it be faithful? Hmm to be faithful it means faithful to the original version.

      Censored and uncensored are not faithful to each other, one is superior and the other one inferior.

    • Alistair

      Maybe just maybe you are a self confess SJW cuck.

      How can it be faithful? Hmm to be faithful it means faithful to the original version.

      Censored and uncensored are not faithful to each other, one is superior and the other one inferior.

    • JustANerdWithARocketLauncher

      Apparently boobs are more important than the gameplay or story. Sorry dude, the virgins have spoken

  • chaoguy

    Treehouse aren’t just bad localizes that push ideology anymore.
    Like all SJW they escalate. They want Jap devs on puppet strings, making the games they want, without putting the effort in. Then when good devs walk out and the games tank, they shrug their shoulders and blame everyone else.

    Buy direct from Japan, Asia English, and tell Nintendo EVERY DAMN TIME you refuse to buy a Treehouse game, that it’s Treehouse’s fault.

    • Fear Me I Am Free

      Yet Reggie says that they don’t push politics. What a load of shit.

      • Disqusted

        Every time Reggie opens his mouth, it just sounds like bullshit to me. I’m not even being biased against him. That’s literally the impression I got when I saw him speak for the first time, which I think was when he spoke at E3 about 2-3 years ago.

      • It’s just a PR statement for damage control and to get the normies (who have been made aware of the censorship) back onto Nintendo’s side. He knows all about the censorship that’s been going on.

        If people weren’t criticizing the censorship in significant numbers then he would have not made that statement.

      • TT

        >Reggie says that they don’t push politics
        well, since they are affecting development midway through, in a sense that’s accurate, as how can anyone prove they censor things now?

    • RichardGristle

      “We destroyed the game you were looking forward to and made you not want to purchase it? You’re such a (insert -phobe/-ist here)!!!

      • chaoguy

        Worse still, if the game sells poorly- the SJW then say they need to cut more.
        And Western AAA devs are happy to pretend it’s true, so it kills their competition.

      • chaoguy

        Worse still, if the game sells poorly- the SJW then say they need to cut more.
        And Western AAA devs are happy to pretend it’s true, so it kills their competition.

      • chaoguy

        Worse still, if the game sells poorly- the SJW then say they need to cut more.
        And Western AAA devs are happy to pretend it’s true, so it kills their competition.

    • Disqusted

      Kinda sad that after three decades and how popular/huge mainstream gaming has become in the West, I still have to import games from Asia because localizations are still f**king shit.

    • anon9370

      Treehouse is now dictating the content of Japanese games while they’re mid-development. Did you not read the article? Now every Nintendo game is a Treehouse game. Period. Even the Japanese versions.

  • InkViper

    So I read the article and I felt sick to my stomach, oh God your right, this is going to be a disaster!
    Then I googled Genki Yokota, guy seems to be pretty base for the most part, but only because he’s got a pretty good selection of games under his belt, most of them more mature titles from Nintendo! Including Zangeki no Reginleiv and Disaster: Day of Crisis. The latter being localized by Nintendo of Europe uncut. Now as he seems to have a relatively good relationship with the localization team at Nintendo of Europe, and them being a team responsible for Xenoblade and Xenoblade 2, and the lot less known for being so censor happy unlike the Fuck-wit’s at NOA, I doubt there’s going to be any real changes to the game whilst in development, granted I might be wrong, and a good indicator of that may come from the supposed hot springs seen, which was described in the games script at the initial trailer reveal. Now I’m quite happy to throw bricks at them all day, but this dude seems to have no issue with the content in the games he’s worked on in the past, so personally I’m going to take a wait-and-see approach to this one.
    But on a side note this is the list of games he has worked on and his role on them.

    Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day! – Support
    Jump Ultimate Stars – Support
    Wii Chess – Assistant Director
    Online Play: Go Dojo 2700 – Director
    Online Play: Speed Shogi Sandan – Director
    ASH: Archaic Sealed Heat
    Fossil Fighters – Director
    Disaster: Day of Crisis – Director
    Fossil Fighter: Champions – Director
    Zangeki no Reginleiv – Assistant Director
    Xenoblade Chronicles – Director
    The Last Story – Supervisor
    Fire Emblem Awakening – Director
    Xenoblade Chronicles X – Director
    Fire Emblem Fates – Director
    Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia – Director
    Xenoblade Chronicles 2

    Link to his wiki page http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Genki_Yokota

    • Lionhart16

      Shadows of Valentia was the interesting one, because I’ve honestly heard absolutely NOTHING of there being any changes that were made to that one during localization, so maybe they either got the right people on that one, or they cleaned house a little after the whole Rapp debacle.

      Side note: That game is also looks very damn good. I wish I bought it in retrospect, but so far from what I’ve seen it has a good story, good dialogue and interactions with very little to no memes, and pretty damn good VOs to boot.

      • Cerzel

        Echoes didn’t get any sort of massive censorship like Fates did, but the localised script was every bit as liberal as Awakening’s was, complete with making everyone needlessly aggressive and snide.

      • InkViper

        Apparently it was 8-4 contracted to do that one on there own, as far as I know treehouse wasn’t involved! Going to take a guess and say they were probably on a very strict brief, to keep it as similar to awakening, considering they also worked on that title as well.

      • ScarredBushido

        ppl were paranoid about Nier Automata being alterd because of 8-4 involement…but it was pretty good. i more worried about neoFAG nutting on this news.

      • ScarredBushido

        ppl were paranoid about Nier Automata being alterd because of 8-4 involement…but it was pretty good. i more worried about neoFAG nutting on this news.

      • anon9370

        Yeah, but there was no pozz in the original game, Fire Emblem Gaiden. They changed one of the non-gay characters into a flaming faggot in the remake. Why? For progressive points and nothing else, I can only assume. Maybe Treehouse was like, “YO THIS NEEDS TO BE MORE PROGRESSIVE, REDESIGN THAT ONE GUY AS A FLAMING HOMO.”

    • Alistair

      You would notice I didn’t type NoE in my comment because of just that.

      EU/UK are relax when it comes to adult themes (sexual) and thank god we haven’t got treehouse I pity the NA gamers getting shafted over and over.

      Unfortunately fate:TM was censored for the EU/UK market too I think as 1 version was made for NA and EU.

    • Alistair

      You would notice I didn’t type NoE in my comment because of just that.

      EU/UK are relax when it comes to adult themes (sexual) and thank god we haven’t got treehouse I pity the NA gamers getting shafted over and over.

      Unfortunately fate:TM was censored for the EU/UK market too I think as 1 version was made for NA and EU.

      • InkViper

        “Unfortunately fate:TM was censored for the EU/UK market too I think as 1 version was made for NA and EU.”

        No, we got the US version of as well, just like the US got the European version of fatal frame! except in that case they didn’t even have the decency to sell a physical retail version.

        “EU/UK are relax when it comes to adult themes (sexual) and thank god we haven’t got treehouse I pity the NA gamers getting shafted over and over.”

        Damn right we’re not that bothered about Ecchi, that’s one of the good things about Europe is were more liberal in that department, although we can be funny about violence, at least from the rating boards.

      • InkViper

        “Unfortunately fate:TM was censored for the EU/UK market too I think as 1 version was made for NA and EU.”

        No, we got the US version of as well, just like the US got the European version of fatal frame! except in that case they didn’t even have the decency to sell a physical retail version.

        “EU/UK are relax when it comes to adult themes (sexual) and thank god we haven’t got treehouse I pity the NA gamers getting shafted over and over.”

        Damn right we’re not that bothered about Ecchi, that’s one of the good things about Europe is were more liberal in that department, although we can be funny about violence, at least from the rating boards.

      • InkViper

        “Unfortunately fate:TM was censored for the EU/UK market too I think as 1 version was made for NA and EU.”

        No, we got the US version of as well, just like the US got the European version of fatal frame! except in that case they didn’t even have the decency to sell a physical retail version.

        “EU/UK are relax when it comes to adult themes (sexual) and thank god we haven’t got treehouse I pity the NA gamers getting shafted over and over.”

        Damn right we’re not that bothered about Ecchi, that’s one of the good things about Europe is were more liberal in that department, although we can be funny about violence, at least from the rating boards.

    • Alistair

      You would notice I didn’t type NoE in my comment because of just that.

      EU/UK are relax when it comes to adult themes (sexual) and thank god we haven’t got treehouse I pity the NA gamers getting shafted over and over.

      Unfortunately fate:TM was censored for the EU/UK market too I think as 1 version was made for NA and EU.

    • Alistair

      You would notice I didn’t type NoE in my comment because of just that.

      EU/UK are relax when it comes to adult themes (sexual) and thank god we haven’t got treehouse I pity the NA gamers getting shafted over and over.

      Unfortunately fate:TM was censored for the EU/UK market too I think as 1 version was made for NA and EU.

  • m0r1arty

    Well, SJW colonization; it sure beats the Dutch, British, French and American brands don’t it?

    What’s next – picking on Japanese because it makes some cry babies feel marginalized?

    • Disqusted

      They’ve been picking on Japanese all along, because Japanese tend not to fight back. It’s easy to make up shit about people who don’t get to have their own say.

      • Guin

        They’ve mostly ignoring it and at best just making fun of baka gaijin. It’s when they’re feeling the brunt that the kids gloves are taken off.

  • Fear Me I Am Free

    Knew that the new Xenoblade is most likely going to be censored so I had no excitement for it whatsoever. Weird thing is I don’t believe any major titles for Switch have been censored so far. (Could be wrong, but I haven’t heard anything.) Nintendo must know many hate the censorship, so why start it back up?

    • chaoguy

      NoA is clearly happy keeping the doctrine. Makes me wonder if Bill Trinen/Reggie think SJW are where the money is, or are SJW themselves.

      NoJ I can see being ignorant to it. They have to rely on translators. All the best translators work for medical and government work, where the most accurate translation is key.
      Japanese translation attracts SJWeeabos because it is part of a hobby they like- and being able to control the flow of information (fan subs, interviews, etc) gives them control.
      So, the best are too expensive, and the rest run the risk of being an SJW. The SJW then tell them that it’s true everyone totally agrees with their opinion. Even a Jap politican had to point out “The American media didn’t predict the election correctly- so why trust them in other matters?”

      I just hope NoJ go back to making games for Japan. I’ll take shitty fan translations and something original over hacks who make the same shit the west churns out (just look at Marvel X Capcom Infinity- it wreeks of Disney micro-management and poor quality)

      • InkViper

        Reggie doesn’t give a shit, he’s just a moneyman! Bill on the other hand, think it’s time to kill Bill! LOL…

      • Alex Chaudhari

        As much as I think Infinity is a shell of the series, I don’t know what Disney has to do with it, This is entirely Capcom’s fault.

    • InkViper

      Of course they do, just a question of individuals in NCL if they give a shit or not! Best outcome with this current situation as crap as it looks, is games rated teen and older are better handled at Nintendo of Europe, then NOA… Let’s them have the Mario parties, and animal Crossing’s!

    • Disqusted

      CENSORBLADE CHRONICLES

    • Mr Snow

      From what I heard, the Japanese voice cast was removed from the credits of Breath of the Wild.

    • Giro

      See, that thinking right there is why I could care less about people complaining about censorship. You don’t know whether a game is censored or not until other people tell or show it to you. So in a sense, you ruined the game for yourself because you’re so nosy about Japan’s version, which you were never going to play anyway because you don’t speak japanese.

      Translated text from Japanese to English is also censorship. Some Japanese words don’t translate to English perfectly, yet nobody has a problem with that. In fact, people beg companies to localize games all of the time.

      • Fear Me I Am Free

        > Translated text from Japanese to English is also censorship.

        That’s the most retarded thing I have ever heard.

        It’s not censorship, it’s translation. Of course translating to different languages, there are changes that will be made. It’s when they take unneeded liberties is what people hate.

        I want games that stay as true to the original as possible. Treehouse is known for butchering games. It’s a bit cynical yes, but when you see game after game censored, you become a cynic.

      • Smug

        “Translated text from Japanese to English is also censorship. Some Japanese words don’t translate to English perfectly, yet nobody has a problem with that.”

        Retard detected.
        While some small nuances will disappear through translation (such as particles, like に and で), there is a difference when you make characters condescending, aggressive in the translation while they werent in the jap version for instance.

        The problem with game translators is that they generally dont take their job seriously (“because lol games are for nerds who cares”), and the shit they do would have fired them on the spot if they ever worked in translating for administrations and governments

        • Giro

          If censorship is any change made in a game to better relate to one’s culture, then translation is censorship as well because the Japanese language is not apart of western culture whereas English is. The only way to have 0% censorship is to have the japanese version itself, but then you could just import.

          • Smug

            “If censorship is any change made in a game to better relate to one’s culture, then translation is censorship as well because the Japanese language is not apart of western culture whereas English is.”

            So because the japanese language is so alien to you, that it cant be translated and keep the same intent and original meaning into english or any western language? (You would’ve a point if you were talking about puns, but that’s the biggest difficulty when translating from any language, not just jap, hence the usefulness of TL’s notes)

            But nah instead, you still keep going on by having not a single fucking idea what censorship actually means.

            “but then you could just import”
            Which I already did for a lot of titles, since I can read jap stuff. But that doesnt excuse the shit the western cucks are trying to do, especially that now they’re trying to infiltrate in the development of japanese games like the article mentioned.

          • Giro

            You and the other guy completely missed the main point of my original post.

            “So because the japanese language is so alien to you, that it cant be translated and keep the same intent and original meaning into english or any western language? ”

            I’m saying a change is a change. If its not identical to the japanese version, then it was changed to appleal to western culture.

          • Smug

            “I’m saying a change is a change. If its not identical to the japanese version, then it was changed to appleal to western culture.”

            If the intent and meaning arent changed, then it’s not a change, you goddamn nigger

          • anon9370

            “Nuances will inevitably be lost in the translation process due to inherent linguistic differences, so fuck it, might as well make everything up 100% from scratch and introduce a bunch of progressive Marxist pozz and eliminate all problematic sexist content.”

            Shouldn’t you be prepping the bull for your wife’s son’s father right now?

          • Or just buy Persona 5.

  • Element
  • Vrenna

    So the entire world has to suffer because of the culture of a few triggered european/american pussies? This is fucking war bitches.

    • Akira Rei

      Sounds a lot like Communism where every pleb is equally miserable and only people on top can live the high life.

      Even Japan being fucked over will definitely cause an uproar especially since all these changes are made sadly due to my more Triggered fellow Amerifats.

    • Richieeeee

      people that most likely won’t even buy the game anyway. Like, fucking kill treehouse already.

    • Smug

      The culture of a hundred loud voices, crying for more “progressive” shit, and the apathy of thousands who simply dont care actually

    • Smug

      The culture of a hundred loud voices, crying for more “progressive” shit, and the apathy of thousands who simply dont care actually