Open Discussion: June 25th, 2017
(Last Updated On: June 25, 2017)

The latest Open Discussion is here and that means you can sound off as usual and tell OAG what’s on your mind, or you can participate in this week’s topic and discuss some of the things either related to gaming or other mediums.

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Now that the above has been stated for readers and posters, the subject for this week’s Open Discussion is about your first PC or console you have ever obtained. Whether your first PC or console was something that brought great or treacherous memories, there’s no doubt that it holds a place somewhere in your heart given that that platform was the first to introduce you into the world of video games.

The PC or console can be something that was played in stores, bought by your parents when you were a child or something that you purchased on your own. This week’s Open Discussion also includes your first PC you ever assembled or console that you personally modified for the first time, too.

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  • Smug

    The Gameboy was my first console, and for my whole childhood it was nothing more than nintendo systems (GBA, N64, Gamecube, Wii, NDS). I began to play on the sony systems by the time I started taking jobs.

  • Disqusted

    I think my first console(?) was a Spectrum ZX, dunno if counts as a computer or a console. Either that, or it was the Commodore 64. I remember using tapes to load stuff, with that horrible electronic dialup modem connection sound.

    I remember playing Chuckie Egg and Jet Pack on the Spectrum ZX. On the C64, I played a lot of games that I had no idea what I was supposed to be doing or how I was supposed to be playing. It’s kinda funny to watch playthroughs of those on YouTube now and see how it was supposed to be done.

    We had a lot of weird joysticks and joypads back then. The joysticks that require being stuck onto the table, but the suction pads kept failing and you’d pul the whole damn stick off. Like this f**king thing:

    And this f***king thing:

    I think I still have some of them, somewhere. I remember the skin of my hand kept getting caught under the damn sticks and it hurt like hell. Happened with arcade machine sticks sometimes, too.

    There were some “game maker” and “construction kit” games, where I was able to draw super low res pixel sprites and animate them. I think they should always have more of those “make your own stuff” games, to encourage kids to be creative. Feels like the world has gone in the opposite direction, though.

    When I was around 7? years old, I tried copying all the code from a section at the back of one of those ultra thick “how to program in basic” books, because I was too lazy to actually read through the rest of the book. Got through several pages and then gave up and tried running it, and it didn’t work. Fun times.

    Later on, I briefly had an Amiga, an Amstrad something, Macintoshes, PCs, etc. Wasn’t until around the 90s that I got my own NES, around the time Mario 3 came out. Since then, I’ve owned a SNES, a Gameboy, a Gamegear, a PS1, a Dreamcast, a PS2, a Wii, and a PS3. There were times I considered getting a Megadrive, or a Saturn, or a Neo Geo, or Neo Geo CD, but ended up not.

    We had C64s and Apple 2Es in my early school years, but they were mostly used for educational software, ie. to assist with other stuff. They didn’t expect computers to become a big thing, so they didn’t really teach people how to use computers properly.

    I think there was more computer use in high school, but I don’t remember, because it would’ve been basic level knowledge to me. They had PCs in the high school library, and even a bunch of expensive laptops, that I heard a bunch of kids stole and AFAIK never got caught. After that, the teachers got paranoid and installed spotlights and cameras everywhere. Sad.

    I once had a teacher accuse me of plagiarising because I wrote a review for English class on my computer. She did say she wanted a rough on paper, but it was 2am, I was dead tired, and it was due the next day, so I just typed it out quickly on the PC at the last moment. The teacher said I must have copied it from somewhere, because it was “too good” for someone like me, and she tried to fail me for it.

    I later realized she must have thought English wasn’t my first language (going by my appearance), and was being RACIST. Isn’t school magnificent? I live in one of those countries where everyone can’t stop humping themselves over their perceived “equality” and “multicultural diversity”, too. Racist pieces of shit.

    Fun fact: I still don’t use spell checkers. Notice I almost never have spelling typos? That also reminds me of some piece of shit asshole lecturers in college who marked me down for being “full of grammar/spelling mistakes” because I made ONE typo in several pages. The same lecturers couldn’t write basic English themselves. Hypocritical assholes. But that’s another topic. Point being, I’m surrounded by dumb assholes who think they are the best.

    I kinda wish I was born more recently, or at least in a less backwards country, so I’d have all this amazing modern tech around me, preferably with less assholes jerking off over themselves, and be able to study game making classes in high school. There was nothing like that when I was little. No communities or anything. I think a lot of people treated me like a leper because they thought computers and video gaming are evil. So sad.

    I probably said too much. I feel like some day someone’s gonna find a way to use what I’ve said against me. “Hey, you’re the same guy who doesn’t like SJWs in the comments section of a gaming blog!” and destroy my life. It’s not paranoia, it’s the world we live in now.

    • Mr.Towel

      Skin Pinching under analog sticks is a classic gamer feeling.

      I had one exactly like the first image when I got interested in PC Gaming. They were as horrible as you say. The suction cups didn’t work for shit and the whole controller was light as a feather, it was pretty much an empty plastic shell. We had to play with both hands on the controller, one to tilt the stick and the other to hold the damn thing in place.

      My first dealing with game developing also came with RPG Maker, one of those “games to make other games”. They still release on consoles (even on frigging handhelds) sometimes. They’re a pain to work with on anything besides PCs though, can’t draw or import sprite templates. I too wish there were more stuff like these, done properly, for younger gamers. Or maybe more PC games where you have to compile the game yourself, like the old C64 games, then you could change somethings in the game by altering the code for compiling.

      Things here on Brazil are as sad as backwards asia there. Here most teachers still don’t know their way around a computer other than office suites and web browsing. And they’re bad even at that. People steal the school computers here too. Some PC cases are chained and caged inside the desk (still doesn’t stop assholes from getting one by the gentle means of a crowbar). What’s worse is that even at College things aren’t any better. I had to go out of the courses program to learn the good stuff myself, otherwise they just teach you the basic (C++, not even C, and frigging Java.That’s pretty much it, the rest is only theories and footnotes). In Brazil, lack of discipline is the norm, getting only the required for the least amount of effort is everyone’s motto. And yeah, they’re full of themselves too, even though they don’t hold a 1/10 of what it would be required to justify all their hubris.

      • Disqusted

        Humanity still has a long way to go :/

        It seems like a lot of people make RPG Maker games. Speaking of Maker games, I’m reminded of that Fighter Maker (aka Kakutou Tsukuru) with Skullomania (from Street Fighter EX). I once saw a video where someone gave him a move that spreads the opponent’s legs and f**ks them, and a whooshing sound plays. That was a good laugh. Can’t seem to find it on YouTube, but here’s another fun old video:

        • Mr.Towel

          What the hell was that?! These stupid animations always get my sides hurting from laughing! It’s the only reason I try to bug/break animations in sports games like Soccer and NFL.

          From fighter makers I only know Mugen and people creating character on Soul Calibur.

          If you found that video funny you need to give a check to Toribash, it’s free to play on Steam and on the funniest fighting games I ever played, just bring any one friend along, you’ll have a blast. It’s specially fun for 3D animators.

  • Mr.Towel

    Atari 2600, wooden frame one. Malfunctioning switches on the top of the console drove me mad till I broke it in a fit of nerd rage. Sad indeed. Didn’t get another video game for some time.

    Second one was a Master System, but not any Master System, it was an Master System exclusive to Brazil, bitches. It was my first portable video game console, Master System 3 Super Compact.

    The keyword here is portable, it was not a handheld, but it was portable. As portable as any brick from the 20th century can be.

    It’s one of the weirdest thing I ever had or seen in gaming in my whole life. Sega didn’t had the money to invest in South American territories but they wanted to get inside SA Market before Nintendo got a stronghold here so they leased the production of the Master System’s hardware to a Brazillian company called Tectoy, who made their own improved version of the system. The hardware is basically the same but full of gimmicks like… the console itself was the fucking controller.

    Yep, the console had all the control buttons and was a little smaller than the regular console, so you popped a cartridge on the top of the console, then lifted the console with your hands and played with the control buttons ON the console. I think you could plug in a regular controller in it but I never did.

    It was also portable in the sense that it came with an antenna to broadcast A/V Signal to any TV nearby. Always channel 3 on my TV. I feel like such a Nintendo Switch hipster now because I had wireless TV broadcast before it was cool.

    It was very prone to signal interference so you could only play it about one meter in front of the TV. You could improve the signal a whole fucking lot by putting a steel wool on the tip of the TV’s antennas. Yeah, the same thing used for cleaning pans in the kitchen. With the steel wool on the top of the TV I could play while lying in the bed at the other side of the room.

    It also had regular RCA cables in case your TV was not bothering with bullshit that day. Not very long but long enough to hold it comfortably.

    Also had an internal battery to play for some hour off the AC power supply.

    For some reason I only had masochistic hard as fuck games for it, like Cheese Cat-Astrophe with Speedy Gonzales. Maybe my parents didn’t like me or found amusing to see me nerd raging over dying all the fucking time. I think the games were harder because I was playing using the console as the controller.

    I don’t know what happened with mine, I got a Genesis later and forgot about the Master System, maybe because I didn’t die so often while playing on the Genesis because I had a regular controller for it. Got an SNES later and the rest is history.

    • Ahaha… wow, never knew about that. Awesome insight man. Learn something new everyday from the comment section.

    • Disqusted

      That thing looks familiar, but I’ve no idea where I’ve seen it before. I feel like I’ve even touched it, or something like it.

      • Mr.Towel

        Could have.

        While it was exclusive to Brazil, Brazil has the largest Japanese immigration compared to any other country, because of the Japanese Diaspora (Nikkei) at the beginning of the 20th century. So we have many cities with substantial Japanese population and Japanese only districts around here (whole segments of major cities where even the road signs are in Hiragana/Katakana only). As a result, there’s a lot of informal trading between Japan/Asia and Brazil. I can go to flea markets around here to find Japanese only products and games for example. At my wife’s home city, there’s even a whole small mall dedicated to Japanese goods. I wouldn’t be surprised to know that there is some small informal commerce of Brazilian goods being sold on Japan as well. It certainly does travel to the rest of the Asia because I’ve known friends in Singapore who could find informal Brazilian goods there.

        • Disqusted

          I probably saw it in Singapore, then. That’s what I was thinking.

  • Hawk Hopper

    Either Star Citizen will be owned by a bank or it won’t. Either way, the flame war continues.

    Someone made music for a game, claims they weren’t paid by the company, and decided the best way to get their money was by attacking YouTubers.

    • Mr.Towel

      Sounds really bad for Star Citizen if true. There’s a lot of haters so it’s hard to know which source is being fair but if true in anyway… it’s very sad news.

      Banks are the worst partners in any artistic or entertainment venue, even if it’s just a loan, they’re unbearable to work with. They micromanage and mismanage everything. They can only think in accountant-speak and are merciless when deciding to pull the plug. That’s not a partner you want funding your entertainment venture.

      • Hawk Hopper

        I don’t pay much attention of Star Citizen, but every time it pops up in my Twitter feed, it’s either everything is great or everything is going to hell.

        But if the worse case scenario happens and a bank gains control of SC, then I imagine a total shit storm. Tons of backers will get burned and it will be the worst crowd funded game disaster, bigger than Mighty No 9, Yogventures and Yooka Laylee combined. Some people can never get over spending $10 on Something Awful, so imagine the meltdowns that will happen if these meme becomes true. If a bank got control over the game, I would guess they would either lock it away or dump it in whatever state it is in.

  • ThyPancakeConsumed

    Just makes me wonder if anybody gonna remember ps2, ps3, wii, gamecube and some others in few years or decades from now on.

    • Nintendo does a fine job of respecting their history. Sony? Not so much. They have a bad habit of pissing on their own legacy. Microsoft is at least attempting to ratchet up the backwards compatible catalog to remind people of classic games, which is good.

      A lot of it comes down to respecting history, and sadly a lot of consoles will be forgotten to time because games media doesn’t do a very good job of respecting history, but that’s because the current crop of companies don’t do a very good job of respecting history either.

      • Disqusted

        Wasn’t Nintendo also against emulation and then got busted coughing out an emulated rom of Mario 1?

        Around 14 minutes in, if the link doesn’t work properly.

        • Smug

          I remember Nintendo sending a letter of notice to emuparadise during this month.

          Not like finding roms of old nintendo games is hard to find in the Internet.

  • GodBowser

    The first console I ever owned was a Super Nintendo bundled with Super Mario All Stars

    I was watching a Trekyards video on the Discovery uniforms and it looks like the designer might have gone overboard with the deltas

    Since the captain of the hero ship of the series is going to be a white male would there be a chance that Discovery might not turn out to be an SJW propaganda piece and would it piss off the SJW’s if it turns out that he’s straight as well

    • Bitterbear

      I have bad news for you:
      The captain is just background noise. The actual lead character is a Mary Sue, for starters, she has a dude name, that’s a red flag; she’s also has an emotional connection with Spok’s father, Sarek, the Klingons wear futuristic Emo Clothing, and the synopsis of the series reads like a summary of a generic YA novel:

      Burnham’s background is that she was the first human to attend the Vulcan Learning Center and Vulcan Science Academy – so she’s spent a lot of time on Vulcan, but she’s human. Sarek plays and important role in her life, which has been completely planned until she makes a difficult choice that sends her life on a very different path.
      When we meet her, she’s the first officer on the starship Shenzhou. Burnham’s choice that we’re alluding to is the most difficult choice you can make – it affects her, affects Starfleet, affects the Federation; it affects the entire universe.

      That choice leads her to a different ship, the USS Discovery, and there we begin what Gretchen and I call our second pilot.

      • Dear lord. Sounds like absolute cancer.

        • Bitterbear

          Sounds more like a generic YA novel. Google Search with the Keywords Top Young Adult Books and click on anyone. The synopsis are pretty much the same Socially inept but overskilled individual lives in a shitty place but something will rock his/her world story.

          This is pretty much the female version of Generic brown-haired white guy in videogames.

      • GodBowser

        I forgot she was going to be the point of view character and if she’s going to be a mary sue I just hope for the people that funded this series that she’s not going to be too much of one just in case it causes people to loose interest

      • descent3031

        “Burnham’s background is that she was the first human to attend the Vulcan Learning Center and Vulcan Science Academy – so she’s spent a lot of time on Vulcan, but she’s human.”

        Holy shit, this is so bad it sounds like parody.

        • Bitterbear

          The irony of it all is that the actual parody which is this one:

          Is being perceived as more like Star Trek than what Star Trek: Discovery is.

          • VersVlees

            That fan film Axanar looks more like Star Trek then ST discovery. I have the impression that Star Trek Discovery is trying to hard to be like the lens flare Star Trek movies.
            Also the new Klingons look like shit.

  • The Sega Mega Drive + Sonic 1 pack. Loved it. First two games my parents bought for it was Streets Of Rage 1 and Golden Axe 2. Both excellent games and really took gaming to the next level as a 16-bit system. I remember being completely amazed by the music in SOR1. In fact even today, that game along with SOR2, contains some of my all-time favorite video games music and I still listen to them today.

    I was already playing video games even before I had the Mega Drive though, because my older brother had a Sinclair ZX Spectrum +2. There were some real classics on that, such as Renegade 1, Target Renegade and Robocop. I would also sometimes get to play on the NES because my friend had one.

    But the Mega Drive was the one that really “got close” to offering arcade-quality games, both in graphics and sound. Very happy memories with that console.

  • I bought a Gameboy advance for 20 bucks at a yard sale when I was 11. Every game/console I had got for the next 7 years would be a gift. Ended up buying a new Xbox 360 when I was 18 because the disk drive broke, and about a year after that I bought a 3DS so I could play monster hunter. Unless you count a laptop as a console that is pretty much it in terms of systems that I’ve spent money on.

  • Brian Murphy

    Atari-2600 I believe, was the first console we had in the house (It was the 80’s, and I remember Dig dug). The first PC we had (that I can remember) would’ve been a Mac II. Following that, we’ve had countless versions of Mac’s (at my mother’s) and then DOS/Windows machines (at my Dad’s). Consoles we had, NES, Gameboy, SNES, PS1, PS2, PS3, and PS4 (Never got an N64 b/c friend across the street had one that I used constantly, and the Wii, Wii-U and Switch just don’t appeal to me as much anymore). And I continue to have upgraded/built new Windows PC’s. Never got into the Xbox hardware, because we’ve always had either top of the line, or competitive gaming PC’s in the house (As the aftermarket part scene exploded, and I started building my own PC, financial obligations began to impact hardware purchases heh).

  • Matthew Wolfbane

    GameBoy Colour+The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening.
    I’d already had some experience playing StarFox on SNES and Sonic on Genesis when over at the places of other relatives, and also Sonic on the Master System Mark II.
    But I’d argue that my experience with Link’s Awakening made the biggest impression on me as a child.

    • Disqusted

      I loved that game, even though it was kinda like a black and white copy-paste from Zelda 3.