Destiny 2 YouTuber Demonetized; YouTube Says Its Due To Gratuitous Violence
Destiny 2 Censorship
(Last Updated On: August 21, 2017)

A YouTuber who goes by the handle of Mesa Sean, sporting more than 100,000 subscribers, has recently been caught up in YouTube’s algorithm for demonetizing content. If you check his video content it’s all centered around Destiny and Destiny 2. However, his recent uploads have been hit with demonetization flags, so he reached out to YouTube for an answer.

So what did YouTube say in response? Well, it’s probably because the ‘T’ for Teen Destiny 2 contains too much “gratuitous violence”.

Sean asked if Destiny 2 was suitable for advertisers, and YouTube’s support responded by saying that it was likely flagging his content for the “gratuitous violence”.

Destiny 2 Demonetization

Others responded by pointing out to YouTube that both Destiny games are rated Teen and have no “gratuitous violence”. That’s not to mention that games like DoomMetro: Last Light, and even GTA V can still be monetized, even though they are rated ‘M’ for Mature and contain gratuitous violence.

After the Twitter feed pointed out that Destiny was a Teen rated game, YouTube went silent.

Sean sardonically pointed out that the game is about shooting aliens and not humans. Nevertheless, YouTube had spoken, and their word was apparently law.

This is part of a new wave of demonetization efforts put into place by YouTube following their implementation of the machine learning AI and their new Limited State policy for content, which can effectively shadowban content even if the content does not violate their content policies.

We’ve seen a number of YouTubers getting caught up in a wide-sweeping effort by YouTube that has demonetized all of their content or a majority of their content. As some users pointed out, even when they upload private videos or completely innocuous videos, their content is still automatically being demonetized by the AI. Many have concluded that their channel has been flagged as part of a demonetization “blacklist”.

Gaming reviewing channels like ACG has been hit so hard in the demonetization wave that he recently had to do a video stating that if he isn’t funded via Patreon for the content he produces, he won’t be able to keep the channel alive.

What’s more is that YouTube’s machine learning AI has also begun preemptively censoring and blocking content on the platform, including an interview that was supposed to take place with Inside GamerGate author James Desborough.

Google and those on the YouTube staff have been mostly silent about the “blacklists”, preemptive censorship and new wave of demonetization happening, other than the announcements they’ve made about the Limited State content policy being put into effect.


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  • MC_bot

    Gamers watch gaming videos and gamers buy stuff. Why would advertisers not want to sell said stuff to gamers? I get not wanting to associate your brand with racist content but video game content? Are gamers bad people now? 99% of what gets advertised isn’t for kids anyways; it’s adult products.

    The one issue with gamers is that a very large chunk of them run adblock. Hard to monetize it when so many users just block the ads.

    Youtube does need a better way of tailoring advertising on those videos though to people not logged in. The analytics say only 5% of gaming viewers are female so don’t advertise feminine products to people watching anonymously; it’s an obvious wasted ad.

  • MC_bot

    Gamers watch gaming videos and gamers buy stuff. Why would advertisers not want to sell said stuff to gamers? I get not wanting to associate your brand with racist content but video game content? Are gamers bad people now? 99% of what gets advertised isn’t for kids anyways; it’s adult products.

    The one issue with gamers is that a very large chunk of them run adblock. Hard to monetize it when so many users just block the ads.

    Youtube does need a better way of tailoring advertising on those videos though to people not logged in. The analytics say only 5% of gaming viewers are female so don’t advertise feminine products to people watching anonymously; it’s an obvious wasted ad.

  • I’m a bit surprised Activision isn’t talking to YouTube regarding this. If Let’s Players’ Destiny 2 videos are being demonetized, they’ll stop streaming the game and this may limit its exposure – something which the publisher wouldn’t be happy about.

  • My short headshot video from Zombie Army Trilogy was demonetized. I am pretty sure that there were no tags or description since it was uploaded right from my XBOX. The title is just called ‘Nice Shootin’, Tex.’

    • It’s likely scanning videos for certain kinds of imagery as well.

  • Alistair

    Google AI is backwards as it’s masters (SJWs).

    GTA is indeed use gratuitous violence by running, gunning down humans NPC and visit stripper joint. and uncensored get YouTube airtime.

    That be cherry picking then.

  • Phasmatis75

    Pretty sure that Activision one of the largest video game companies in existence will be totally okay with having videos of their game demonetize thus killing any interest in channels covering their new game. I am sure they will be pleased as can be losing out on the sales those vids would generate.

  • fenshing

    I saw that one YouTuber, GadgetGirlKylie, thinks she has been blacklisted. She mostly plays anime type games and has had her stuff demonetized. So she tested it by uploading a blank video, like 3 mins of just a black screen with no sound named Test or something like that, and it was marked as private. That blank video was demonetized right after she uploaded it.YouTube is really just trying to run off the smaller channels so the can focus on pushing stuff like late night shows and leftist crap.

  • fenshing

    I saw that one YouTuber, GadgetGirlKylie, thinks she has been blacklisted. She mostly plays anime type games and has had her stuff demonetized. So she tested it by uploading a blank video, like 3 mins of just a black screen with no sound named Test or something like that, and it was marked as private. That blank video was demonetized right after she uploaded it.YouTube is really just trying to run off the smaller channels so the can focus on pushing stuff like late night shows and leftist crap.

  • AlecJ

    Youtube is dead…..the content producers just dont realize it yet.

    I dont think we should be supporting them on Patreon in order to keep Youtube channels alive….Sorry guys…you are just enabling their cancerous behavior.

    Its time to leave Youtube. Somebody just start the exodus….we will follow.

    Patreon is not the answer.

    I know it sucks, but allowing Youtube to make money by hosting your videos while you go beg for private donations to survive is insane.

    Free market time—

    GO!

  • durka durka

    I just remembered something a few years ago jim sterling made a video about which videogame characters he would like to jack off in a bathroom. He got censored.

    By current era standards, would that be monetized?

  • durka durka

    I DECIDED TO BECOME A TRANS PERSON AND MAKE BEAUTY BLOGGER VIDEOS. IF YOU DONT PUT ADS ON MY VIDEOS YOU ARE A TRANSPHOBE.

  • Disqusted

    Saw a random guy who uploads random videos of random stuff complaining about getting demonetized automatically, despite having no offensive content.

    Maybe now more people will realize what a threat the crazy SJWs are. “Oh, but they aren’t taking away your f**king whatever.” Bullshit.

  • totenglocke

    “Gaming reviewing channels like ACG has been hit so hard in the demonetization wave that he recently had to do a video stating that if he isn’t funded via Patreon for the content he produces, he won’t be able to keep the channel alive.”

    ACG already gets almost $60k a year from Patreon alone. Sorry, but that doesn’t classify as” barely getting by”.

    • LurkerJK

      True but many of them never planned for a rainy day, have 60k a month expenses, no savings and lots of debts. That’s why you see some of them so desperate.

      “I was a big YouTuber for 5-10 years” in your resume does not get you much at McDonald’s. The trade they have developed for all those years is now almost useless, they are not good enough to go on the traditional media either (and that’s dying too anyway), some might be able to get something out of video editing but many are not even good at that

      YouTubers that went all in and made no contingency plans are pretty fucked

    • durka durka

      well, if you buy every game and review it on multiple systems and multiple consoles…..

      1.You dont have a life
      2.you need alot of money.

      ACG is too much blah blah cosmetic blah blah and very little talk about the actual gameplay. But he does review fucking EVERYTHING. I dont get how he has the time.

    • AlecJ

      His reviews are complete pablum but if he has found a market for them, more power to him….

      That said…if he gets 60k a year to make them from Patreon…he is exactly the type of channel that needs to show some leadership.

      He is making content for youtube to put on its site— If the situation is not cost effective– he should be leading the charge to another platform…not begging for a few coins to get through the next month or two

      Its time for guys like ACG to think about their future financial viability— not just whats in their wallet this week.

      Also, Id be real surprised if the guy leaves 60k on the table– This video seems like a PR ploy to get people to pony up more….

      I hope im wrong though– id hate to think the guy is using phony emotional pleas to squeeze a few more dollars out of people….

      I dont know ACG from Adam though— so im going to put a pin in this until i learn more…..

  • Fear Me I Am Free

    Yet have people like Markiplier and Pewdiepie who make Youtube shitloads of money been hit? Pewdiepie plays violent games. Markiplier is almost exclusively horror and some of them are pretty violent.

    • Bitterbear
    • Conner Garry Sennett

      Felix doesn’t play as many games anymore, so maybe that’s why.

    • Disqusted

      Pewdie keeps making jokes about how YouTube is screwing him over. No idea how much he’s actually being screwed over, though. I mean, it’s hard to tell if he’s being serious when he says he only got ~$16 a month from YouTube. That was before the new algorithm.

    • EroBotan

      it’s hard to kill youtube when the big names stay there. Only if they move then tons of their follower will do the same.

      • It’s hard to kill YouTube when all the normies, casuals, newcomers and non-political people use it as well.

    • LurkerJK

      You would feel a disturbance in the force if that happened

      Big channels are going to bleed slowly so they don’t jump early, like cooking a frog

    • d0x360

      Yes they have but they make money other ways. Both of them do streams so you get super chats or sponsor only chat on YouTube. Then you have twitch donations and selling merch or patreon.

      Hell Felix has been doing streams weekday mornings with 25k people watching him play and there is a constant stream of donations via super chats and sponsorship so they can join in the chat as he has it set to sponsor only which is smart especially since you can actually read it unlike a twitch chat which is just words moving so fast it’s totally pointless

      These services should really instance the chat rooms to something like 30 people. America Online did it that way and if worked. I doubt they picked the number 30 because it sounds good. It’s likely the biggest number you can have that would allow people to read something before it’s pushed off the screen then obviously people would break off into private chats or instant messages.

      Everytime i go and watch any stream I don’t even bother trying to chat. It’s futile.

  • This algorithm is pretty crazy. Not only that I’ve learned that it censor those who have been opposing their political viewpoints, but now demonetizing a channel’s Destiny videos for “gratuitous violence” despite the games being rated T for Teen. It seems like YouTube has taken another turn for the worse for letting ridiculous stuff like this happening.

    I don’t know what else to say about this, but I know people will condemn the living hell out YouTube for letting this happen.

    • Fear Me I Am Free

      Frankly, if they don’t change then this will probably kill Youtube.

      • totenglocke

        We can only hope.

      • It won’t, because all the normies, casuals, newcomers and non-political people use still continue to use it as if their lives depended on it.

        • d0x360

          People go where others go. If a competitor was started, a real one that is and all the big YouTubers went you can bet your ass users would follow and then so would the masses and the advertisers.

          Youtube should have stood up for Felix and everyone else for that matter. Instead they have been feeding channels to the wolves.

          We can’t get ads on video games rated teen but advertisers have no issue throwing their money at tv shows that show tons of violence, Gore, and drug use.

          Hell I watched an episode of “Bones” with my wife and there was a dead body all opened up with crap melting off and it all falling apart. End scene go to commerical break…

          I said to her that 15 years ago this never would have aired on regular TV. The Gore alone in that show is very realistic and intense.

          Google has screwed themselves over here. Hopefully another platform can do it the right way now that we have seen everything not to do

          • LurkerJK

            The problem is that whatever the competitor is, its not going to start as good as youtube and a big chunk of the customers are entitled, no-patience millennials (and afaik gen Z is not better in this particular aspect) so switching requires a leap of faith that nobody is willing to do.

            Steam was outright shit when it came out, many years later they hammered it into something usable (not many remember this do they?), meanwhile they gained their audience.

            When Origin came out, what were the main complaints ?:
            “It’s not as good as Steam”
            “its not as stable as Steam”
            “it doesn’t have a library as big as Steam”
            “I am already on Steam”

            GOG probably had the better idea by offering something the rest were not offering, they even offered to migrate part of the Steam library with Connect and right now it has the best legal prices for many big indies, however it still struggles to raise up.

            So the migration is going to be slow and painful, many channels will lose most of their subscribers and will have to recover them again, many will never manage to do it and the big channels might end better or worse than they are today, only time will tell.

            The ones in the best position are the ones that set up patreon early. They already have a few whales to keep them afloat, sure the might ban them but setting up a Patreon alternative is far easier than a new youtube, its just a money transfer service with a website and a blog that it pays for itself with the cut it gets from the money

          • d0x360

            Well it really depends on who starts it and who’s involved in its design. If YouTubers create or guide the creation of both the front and back ends it should be just fine. They know what youtube does right and wrong whether from a user perspective or a creator perspective.

            It being difficult is a terrible reason not to do it. Googles obviously lost their collective minds and no longer cares about the users of the creators. Screwem

          • LurkerJK

            I’m not saying its not going to happen, just pointing out it will be slow and painful, at least in the beginning.

          • d0x360

            Depends how well they do. The Exodus from Digg to Reddit took about 3 weeks for almost the entire userbase to move

          • d0x360

            Depends how well they do. The Exodus from Digg to Reddit took about 3 weeks for almost the entire userbase to move

          • LurkerJK

            I’m not saying its not going to happen, just pointing out it will be slow and painful, at least in the beginning.

          • d0x360

            Well it really depends on who starts it and who’s involved in its design. If YouTubers create or guide the creation of both the front and back ends it should be just fine. They know what youtube does right and wrong whether from a user perspective or a creator perspective.

            It being difficult is a terrible reason not to do it. Googles obviously lost their collective minds and no longer cares about the users of the creators. Screwem

          • LurkerJK

            The problem is that whatever the competitor is, its not going to start as good as youtube and a big chunk of the customers are entitled, no-patience millennials (and afaik gen Z is not better in this particular aspect) so switching requires a leap of faith that nobody is willing to do.

            Steam was outright shit when it came out, many years later they hammered it into something usable (not many remember this do they?), meanwhile they gained their audience.

            When Origin came out, what were the main complaints ?:
            “It’s not as good as Steam”
            “its not as stable as Steam”
            “it doesn’t have a library as big as Steam”
            “I am already on Steam”

            GOG probably had the better idea by offering something the rest were not offering, they even offered to migrate part of the Steam library with Connect and right now it has the best legal prices for many big indies, however it still struggles to raise up.

            So the migration is going to be slow and painful, many channels will lose most of their subscribers and will have to recover them again, many will never manage to do it and the big channels might end better or worse than they are today, only time will tell.

            The ones in the best position are the ones that set up patreon early. They already have a few whales to keep them afloat, sure the might ban them but setting up a Patreon alternative is far easier than a new youtube, its just a money transfer service with a website and a blog that it pays for itself with the cut it gets from the money

        • ntbxp

          I doubt. Youtube already demonetize stuff like Senran Kagura. Erotism.
          Now they are kicking out Destiny. Death and violence.
          If this trend continues, youtube will become site mostly for stuff like this.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N0XxhFlivk
          Mantras
          https://www.youtube.com/user/ArlyCravo
          Motivational youtubers aka gurus.
          And many other meditation junky stuff.
          Of course it will have SJW stuff too.
          And you know HOW THIS STUFF IS BORING AS HELL!!!

          If people make less gameplay on youtube, sure they will have to search for it in, for example, vidme.

    • LurkerJK

      I have a feeling the end goal is to get rid of all content producers, no matter the content.

      They are starting with the non sjw content for ideological reasons (and also provides them with support for a censorship move that would have gone nuclear in the media otherwise) but will eventually spread out to everyone

      They might be trying to bleed them out slowly so that it’s not as obvious how many watchers the lose when they pull the plug and turn into YouTube tv and to minimize the help they will give to the competition when producers start jumping ship

      There was a video by metokur titled “Wake Up” where he talks about a chance alignment of sjws, corporations and government and I think he was right on target with that. Here you see corporate using sjws to do something they wouldn’t be able to do normally

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4hFcjnOHnk

      • It’s pretty hard to convince those who don’t give a flying crap about what’s been happening unless it bites and chews them, and then spits them out.