“Angry” Joe Vargas has come under fire for misrepresenting a controversy plaguing Battlefield V‘s low pre-order sales and for censoring comments on a YouTube video he recently published titled “EA’s Battlefield V Pre-Orders “Weak”! – IT’S CUZ WOMEN & SJW’s!”. Joe claims that he’s not censoring comments, but others have pointed to evidence that some comments aren’t appearing on the video.
The video can be viewed below, which clocks in at 13 minutes. The video attempts to downplay how angry people are at the current wave of SJWs ruining the video game industry, especially after former EA exec Patrick Soderlund told people NOT to buy the game if they didn’t like the politics being implemented into the game.
Joe attempts to state that the reason that Battlefield V pre-orders are low isn’t because people are fed up with SJWism in games, but because of being sandwiched in between Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 and Red Dead Redemption 2.
As anyone with common sense knows, the only people who deny the presence of SJWs negatively influencing games are SJWs and shills.
Thankfully, most gamers have common sense and have rightfully been downvoting Joe’s video for strawmanning the issue (and we’ll get to the issues later).
Many people have been attempting to correct Joe on his misinformation regarding Battlefield V, but they claim that their comments are being deleted. Joe has mentioned that he’s not deleting comments.
Hey Rags you don’t seem to be listening to me. I’ll say it here again for you in a direct reply on Twitter since you can’t seem to read my replies on YT comments. I didn’t delete your comment. Nor any comment on this video. I encourage the discussion and I’m there now engaging.
— Joe Vargas (@AngryJoeShow) August 19, 2018
Twitter user Adolwuf posted an image of a comment from Joe that might explain where all the other critical comments are going.
— Adolwulf (@Adolwulf) August 19, 2018
If you’re unable to read it, Joe writes…
“Supercal I’ve realized this is like the easiest thing to do or say in the comments. There’s literally no proof of not deleting comments other than me telling you I don’t fucking delete comments lol. I do have moderators on my channel though. And I hope they delete all the bullshit. YouTube comments need moderation whether you agree or not. And I’m pretty sure you can see there’s plenty of Joe you’re wrong comments it is about Women and SJWs. But whatever makes you feel better about how important this moment is. Deleted your comment [sic]”
Joe then began to rage as people pointed out that he was objectively wrong about why the pre-orders are low for Battlefield V, which is a mirror of the Liberals over on the /r/Games/ thread who are also using the same logic as Joe.
HOLY SHIT you guys are some Aggressive Triggered Snowflakes HUH! SHIT MAN! Wow. I’m sorry I fucked up & suggested maybe the SJW angle is played up a bit & lower pre-orders could have been a number of factors in addition! FUCK! Im definitely a soyboy, cuck, SJW, EA Shill!
— Joe Vargas (@AngryJoeShow) August 19, 2018
Joe tries to use the excuse that people aren’t interested in Battlefield V because of EA’s microtransaction shenanigans with Star Wars: Battlefront 2, and that people in general have decided to just not buy EA’s products.
Madden NFL 19 got off to a strong start during its opening weekend, and EA has noted the sales have helped climb the overall franchise sales to more than 130 million units since acquiring the NFL license. According to market analytics outlet, Zacks, the sales of Madden NFL 19 and other titles have helped bolster EA’s growth throughout the year.
This is also not counting the fact that the EA-published title, A Way Out, was also a sterling sales success, moving millions of copies despite being a low-budget game, as reported by PCGamesN.
If people were protesting Electronic Arts by not buying games published by Electronic Arts, then logic would presume that surely this consumer protest would have affected A Way Out and Madden NFL 19, right? Of course, this didn’t happen at all.
Joe is completely ignoring actual sales data and market performance of other EA titles that have come out after Star Wars: Battlefront II. There also should have been reports about FIFA 19 pre-orders being just as low as Battlefield V, but there are no reports (so far) indicating that FIFA 19 pre-orders are suffering the way Battlefield V pre-orders are suffering.
Joe also tries to use the excuse that Battlefield V is simply a small game sandwiched in between other larger games such as Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 and Red Dead Redemption 2.
Battlefield V is not an indie title, it’s not an AA title, and it’s not some unknown franchise. Battlefield 3 nearly toppled Call of Duty, shipping more than 15 million units, as reported by GameReactor. And according to Windows Central, Battlefield 1 has attained more than 25 million registered players, worldwide.
Battlefield is not an underdog. Analysts have long expected that the series was either going to tie or surpass Call of Duty at some point (but it obviously isn’t going to be with Battlefield V).
In fact, there’s nothing indicating that Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 is the biggest Call of Duty in history. It doesn’t even have a single-player mode, which has caused plenty of ire and disappointment among core gamers.
Heck, even Tim Pool acknowledged that the way EA is promoting Battlefield V has turned gamers off and has garnered a lot of ire from anti-SJWs.
The reason people are angry at Joe is because he’s misrepresenting what’s happening in the industry and creating a strawman excuse for the low pre-orders.
Let’s get a couple of things straight here:
- Battlefield V is an AAA mega-blockbuster brand, not an indie title.
- No, gamers do not hate women .
- No, people are not mass-boycotting EA’s games as evident with the sales data of other EA published games.
- There’s nothing indicating that Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 will be as big as Joe claims it will be, and until we get pre-order estimates it’s just a strawman claiming that it’s the reason Battlefield V has low pre-orders.
Right now it looks like both Battlefield V and Black Ops 4 will be underwhelming compared to past iterations, based on community chatter. Right now the only gauge we have about sales performance is that Black Ops 4 has more pre-orders than Battlefield V. That’s not indicative of the game being a huge success, though. That’s like saying a one-legged man is running a marathon much better than a quadriplegic.
Also, Joe’s argument that people are disliking the game simply because it has women in it is a complete fallacy.
Women have been featured in many FPS PvP games for years, including Call of Duty, Medal of Honor and Battlefield. The issue people have is how the game presents the women, and how DICE is trying to purposefully rewrite history through fictional media.
They’re attempting to utilize actual Cultural Marxism to depict women as front-line fighters who were just as present on the battlefield as men, which is completely false. The largest female fighting force in World War II was on the Soviet side, and even then, they only made up about 8% of the Red Army’s fighting force, as cataloged in a Global Research report.
A lot of gamers have issues with attempting to paint World War II as this colorful, alternate history event where British women with Nordic face paint and cybernetic arms were leading the charge against the enemy. As many gamers have pointed out in the past, if they want to make an alternate history World War II fantasy game, they can do that and they can market it that way. Trying to market the game as a realistic war sim while black British soldiers wield Samurai swords and dress like Vikings is a mockery of the genre, especially while still trying to portray the game as some serious realistic war sim.
DICE’s own staff even claimed that the way the women are depicted in Battlefield V was so that they could be “on the right side of history”, and not because they were gunning for historical accuracy, or trying to be respectful of World War II in any way.
Back in May of 2018, design director Dan Berlin used the excuse that it was because of his daughter that he added the female characters to Battlefield V and that it was about being able to “learn something” from history…
“I knew this was going to be a fight when i pushed for female soldiers in Battlefield. I have a daughter, and I don’t want to ever have to answer her question of “why can’t I make a character that looks like me” with “because you’re a girl.”
“I fundamentally feel to my core this is the right way and I will find myself on the right side of history.
“And I think many people will play the game despite their reservations. And maybe learn something about either history or themselves. That is part of the making games art.”
So this has nothing to do with simply expanding the options, it has everything to do with sociopolitical propaganda.
Gamers aren’t stupid, and their disdain for having a venerable franchise like Battlefield turned into a Leftist propaganda machine did not go over well with fans at all.
A month later, in June of 2018, former chief design officer Patrick Soderlund rolled out another excuse that it was because of his daughter that they had to prominently feature females in Battlefield V, stating…
“We felt like in today’s world—I have a 13-year-old daughter that when the trailer came out and she saw all the flak, she asked me, ‘Dad, why’s this happening?’”
“She plays Fortnite, and says, ‘I can be a girl in Fortnite. Why are people so upset about this?’ She looked at me and she couldn’t understand it. And I’m like, ok, as a parent, how the hell am I gonna respond to this, and I just said, ‘You know what? You’re right. This is not okay.’”
Soderlund would later on in the interview go on to say that critics of Battlefield V were uneducated and that if they didn’t like the game they shouldn’t buy it. So a lot of people apparently aren’t going to buy it. Shortly before the pre-order news went viral, Soderlund departed from EA.
So instead of focusing on upgrading the physics so that they were at least more robust than Battlefield: Bad Company 2 from a decade ago, the company decided to spend time orienting Battlefield V around Social Justice Warrior talking points and trying to virtue signal how inclusive they were as a studio.
Even the Reddit moderators for the Battlefield sub-reddit have been attempting to quell dissent by limiting the push-back from the community, even going as far as to censor criticisms of the game and ban users who blame SJWism for ruining the game.
Joe can make excuses for Battlefield V all he wants, but ignoring the data, ignoring the numbers, and ignoring consumer complaints (even in his own comment section) isn’t going to change the facts.
What are the facts? If you get woke, you go broke.
FACT: Battlefield V got woke and… well, it hasn’t come out yet. But if the trends above are anything to go by, it’ll be joining the other games since the numbers obviously don’t lie, and so far there’s one thing that has been apparent during this virtue signaling trend by hipsters, Cultural Marxists, and SJWs…
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