Ubisoft Didn’t Intend For Everyone To Unlock For Honor Items
For Honor DLC
(Last Updated On: March 24, 2017)

Some gamers have complained about the microtransactions in For Honor after it was revealed that it would cost about $732 to buy all the items in the cash shop. Others did some calculations and roughly estimated that playing the game casually would require about two and a half years worth of play-time to earn enough in-game currency to buy everything in the shop. Ubisoft’s response? They didn’t intend for you to unlock everything in the game anyway.

According to Techspot, game director Damien Kieken talked about the microtransactions in a live-stream, saying…

“We never had an intention for you to unlock everything in the game,” “First, that doesn’t truly make any sense. We applied RPG mechanics on top of a fighting game, in a PVP environment, but it’s like in an RPG, like in World of Warcraft: you would never try to unlock everything for all the characters of the whole game. Same for any MOBA, you’re not trying to unlock all the content for all the characters in the game.”

Kieken explains that they only expected people to play one or up to three different classes across the three warrior categories, and that they didn’t expect or intend for gamers to unlock everything.

Back in the day, people used to play games to unlock everything, but that was before games were sold as a service to pad the pockets of shareholders.

Microtransactions only exist to fill out the revenue for the quarterly margins of a big corporation, otherwise they would sell the $60 game, have a bunch of unlocks, and allow people to unlock everything within a reasonable time frame… just like every single game made during and before the sixth generation of gaming.

Obviously, some people were angry that Ubisoft would suggest that they designed a game where you can’t unlock everything within a reasonable time because that basically certifies that they intended people to buy anything they didn’t have time to grind out with real money. Others were fine with this revelation, defending that Ubisoft has to sell microtransaction so they can keep making money on For Honor post-release.

Of course, the real issue isn’t so much that there are microtransactions or that there’s a lot to unlock, but mostly that there’s an artificial grind designed so that people who don’t want to spend real money have to play a lot longer and a lot harder in order to get what they want.

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  • Bamf

    Hey if dumbasses want to pay $800 on a game, let em.

  • Experiment #626

    a lot of the unlockables are just cosmetics. grind all the way to rep 10 only to get a different color scheme.

  • giygas

    I don’t intend to buy their shitty game either.


    If you didn’t intend for gamers to unlock everything in the game, then what the fuck is the point of playing it?

  • Disqusted

    I hate trying to point out/explain the intentional artificial grind shit to get people to pay money. People always argue “but it’s free” or some bullshit, because they have no brain. Well, in this case, the base game isn’t even free. Whatever’s in their head would probably explode.

  • SevTheBear

    Ubisoft just keeps fucking it up. I wonder how many fuck ups they need to learn before they get the message

    • Bitterbear

      They need a 90% sales collapse like 2011 when their idiotic DRM fucked up their sales. For at least two years afterwards they played nice. But people have shit short-term memories.

      • SevTheBear

        Indeed. Human history has a bad habit of repeating it self. If I didn’t knew better I would say 90% planet suffers from SSTM

    • Phasmatis75

      Their games haven’t even broken even and they’re being bought out by Vivendi. They’re pretty screwed at this point.

      • SevTheBear

        So they could end up being the next SEGA 😛

        • Phasmatis75

          Honestly my prediction is that Vivendi will end up winning in the buy out and then ousting the current regime, removing the Politically correct element and make the company very performance oriented.

          Series that aren’t performing anymore will be gutted, games will start meeting par again, and maybe they’ll pump out some good products without their current regime in power. Considering how progressive they’re determined to be I’m actually cheering on Vivendi in that buyout. I’ll take soulless evil corporation over progressives any day.

          • SevTheBear

            Yeah their SJW mindset is pure posion.

            Don’t Vivendi own Valve / Steam?

          • Phasmatis75

            Gabe Newell owns Valve/Steam. Private company.

            Vivendi used to own Activision. Probably the company you are thinking of.

          • SevTheBear

            Yeah I think you are right. Was just pretty sure I heard that some company had some ownership in Valve and they where looking into buying out Ubisoft

          • Phasmatis75

            I think I heard that once as a rumor, but it was debunked when it was shown that Gabe Newell owns Valve lock stock and barrel. EA wanted to buy out Valve at one point, but Gabe Newell had no interest in selling to them.

            Vivendi isn’t a great company, but when they owned Activision you didn’t see any virtue signally or politics rammed into their games. Frankly without the developers that push that crap their games would be vastly improved, so even though it’s choosing between two evils, Vivendi is the more tolerable evil.

          • SevTheBear

            Let’s see for how long that last. But then again Activision a record of not giving a shit as long as they get money out of it.

          • Phasmatis75

            Not a great company, but I’d rather have a company money oriented than virtue signalling oriented. More than anything I’m just looking forward to Ubisoft getting purged of all those incapable of making money.

          • SevTheBear

            Yeah as we have seen virtue signalling oriented games don’t sell that well for the most part (though some will claim Horizon is one). But you are right, as long as it sells well they couldn’t care less if it was flying piece of shit with a turban and neon lights. If it sells it sells and if don’t they kill it off.

          • Phasmatis75

            With Horizon like games, they’ll never admit it sold poorly until after it blows up like Tomb Raider. We may never hear them say it, but that game cost tens of millions in marketing and won’t break even till 5-6 million units under the best of circumstances.

            Internally there is a different story. Execs know the game failed and while we might not be able to know what’s exactly going on, but if they’re saying no sequel, and they’re focusing on DLC the message is probably “if you don’t break even, you’re done.” I expect turnovers, layoffs, or even studio closure, if not for the brand looks good.

            It’ll be interesting to see what happens going forward, but I stand firm that late this year, or next year we’ll hear about layoffs.

          • SevTheBear

            The first Uncharted didn’t sell over 1 mil until the year after. Horizon has sold 2.7 mil within the the first weeks.

            But of course back in 2007 things very different.

          • Phasmatis75

            Uncharted didn’t have a bloated out of control budget and huge marketing to recoop, so it worked out better. You can make anything successful provided you have a market and budget correctly. Horizon was projected to sell probably over 6 to 8 million units.

            It’s already slowed to a crawl, being outsold by absolutely mediocre games that barely have any sales. It’s safe to assume that if this game will likely not break 4 million and it’s success is riding on the DLC. What Sony’s going to do next is unknown, but they’re currently purging marxists from their company, so it’s not looking good for Horizon’s developers.

          • SevTheBear

            Oh I didn’t know they where doing a PURGE of the loonies. Links?

            How big of a budget are we talking about?

            Let’s see Horizon vs. Nier, Nioh, Yakuza 0, Persona 5 and a load of other niche games + F2P games… yeah is has of compaction alright. Hell I am amazed that so many mediocre games are selling at all (Ubistof and Bioware). I mean it’s possible that HZD could sell 4 mil by the end of the year. But the first 2 weeks are the most important ones right?

          • Phasmatis75

            Purely speculative on my part, as it is typically what Sony does, as they’re purging their movie house and will be looking with great ire toward their gaming house for Horizons failure.

            Ubisoft’s games haven’t been selling that well, under 1 million and Bioware’s new game bomb as expected. Yes though it is the first two weeks that are the most crucial unless you hit a run. No one is really talking about Horizon anymore, so it’s fairly obvious they didn’t hit a run.

          • No one is really talking about Horizon anymore, so it’s fairly obvious they didn’t hit a run.

            One way of measuring a game’s tail end is by how often people look up the “Ending Explained” articles.

            For Horizon it’s tied almost neck to neck with NieR: Automata in terms of interest. What’s really interesting is that NieR appears to be keeping pace, or increasing as time goes on. I suppose word of mouth is drawing more people to play the game and conquer it?

            Horizon’s Ending Explained article has waned pretty quickly, almost equivalent to the interest of Mafia III and Watch Dogs 2.

            For comparison purposes, Final Fantasy XV’s Ending Explained article is still one of the top pieces on the site, and reflects the steady and continued sales pace of the game (and people beating the game). So in a way you can sort of gauge not only how often people continue to buy the game, but whether or not they finish it as well, and a lot of people still seem to be buying and finishing NieR just as much as Horizon (if not more).

          • Phasmatis75

            Personally that’s a poor metric, since people can come to those articles for any number of reasons. I say this as someone who has run a few blogs before. Just going over my postings on Hubpages, I’ve found out a simple review for an indi horror game became popular this last month as well as a Dying Light article about the location of the city. One of my oldest guide for Two Worlds continues to be popular probably on the keywords magic beginners guide.

            I’ve seen things popular not do well, and things not popular suddenly explode for no decernable reason. Just my personal experience on the subject.

          • SevTheBear

            We did have a lot of games hitting the market these last 2 months. So no wonder some of them gets kicked aside.

            I admit, I almost don’t remember any of the characters from HZD right now. Alloy is forgettable and the rest of the cast (while well voice acted) just don’t have any personality to them. Hell it has been years since I have played FF9 (a PS1 game) and I still remember more about the cast from that game. This is the same problem they had when they made Killzone. The cast is generic and forgettable.

          • Phasmatis75

            I couldn’t name them as I’m horrible with names, but yes I can still remember many of 9s characters. I don’t look around much, but I haven’t seen much talk about Horizon anymore. The game practically died within a month. Give me 6 months and the most rememberable thing about the game will probably be the conversation I had with you about it (I’ve really enjoyed doing so, PM me if you have discord, stream or something else and I’ll add you).

          • SevTheBear

            Done with HZD. it gets a 8/10. 10% feminist BS but the rest is good

          • lol…. isn’t it awful that it would have been pretty rad all the way around if they didn’t shove in that stuff towards the end?

          • SevTheBear

            The feminist BS it spreed through out the game. Not the ending. A few nice guys and the rest is weak, dumb or evil. All women are awesome or pure good. That is where the feminist BS comes in.

          • Phasmatis75

            Well glad you liked it. I still won’t touch it and will laugh my ass off at the layoffs, but glad you enjoyed it. That kind of stuff isn’t something I can look past.

          • SevTheBear

            I fully understand. It ain’t a game I will be playing a again either. While the story and world is works and the game is well optimized, the rest is a 7/10. It’s not a game I will tell people to storm out and get. That one I would leave to games like *ME2*, *Nier:Automata*, *Nioh* and *Orin and the Blind Forest*. I would also say Yakuza 0 and Persona 4 and 5, but that of course is a matter preference.

          • Phasmatis75

            How is Orin and the Blind Forest? I’ve been looking at that one for awhile.

          • Ori and the Blind Forest had a great soundtrack. Gameplay reminded me a lot of Dust: An Elysian Tail. If you like HQ side-scrollers with platforming and some light puzzle solving, you might like Ori.

          • Phasmatis75

            I’ve enjoyed the genre, some do some amazing things with it. Need to finish Dust though.

          • SevTheBear


          • SevTheBear

            Art design and music is beautiful. Gameplay is fun if you like side-scrollers with a bit of puzzles. at this point it’s cheap and you can get it on PC and Xbox

          • Phasmatis75

            Sounds good, I’ll definitely have to get it after I clear up my backlog. Memory is getting tight.

  • Gozu Tennoh

    I’d say the ps1 era was the best time in gaming. Long before any of this BS or SJWs etc.

    If only we could go back in time and poison all those involved.

    • ItEotWaWKI

      I personally feel gaming reached it’s zenith around the turn of the century, and it’s golden age was, roughly, ’94 to ’02. This is coming from someone that started gaming with the 2600.

      • 200% agreed.

      • Gozu Tennoh

        Those late nineties man, we had classics coming out back to back for years.

        Even western games were good. WESTERN GAMES WERE GOOD!

        • King’s Quest, Baldur’s Gate, Tie Fighter, Full Throttle, Interstate 76, Alone in the Dark, Half-Life, Perfect Dark, Diablo, GTA, Hitman, Warcraft, Blackthorne, Quake, Doom, Blood, Duke Nukem 3D, Heretic, Hexen, Leisure Suit Larry, Legend of Kyrandia….

          Man, there were like a full list of awesome Western games that were out back then. You’re right, it was like back-to-back! I miss the good ‘ole days.

    • Disqusted

      I feel like the SNES age was great. SNES age and PS1 age. We had lots of all kinds of games pouring in from every direction. People experimented with stuff, we had lots of memorable, amazing classics. PS2 age was okay too, I guess.

      Now we’re just getting a few remakes of remakes of remakes and sequels of sequels of sequels.

      • Gozu Tennoh

        I sometimes wonder if it’s just the nostalgia but I set my old consoles up again and the gameplay / story / creativeness of whatever old classic I’m playing just shines straight through every time.

        We get the odd gem on the playstation platform now and again (Lost Dimension, Dragons Crown, Valkyria Chronicles, Nier, Nioh) but the other’s platforms have gone full mainstream casual cash in on us it seems.

  • EroBotan

    if you want to have a game with expensive microtransaction, at least make the game free to play lol ..