Detroit: Become Human Avoided Current Events Because It’s Still Just A Game, Says David Cage
Detroit Become Human
(Last Updated On: August 19, 2017)

David Cage, Quantic Dream head honcho and director for the upcoming PS4 exclusive, Detroit: Become Human, recently talked to the Official PlayStation Magazine about the upcoming title and some of the things they didn’t want to add because they could be “interpreted wrongly”.

WCCFTech picked up specific quotes from the interview where Cage told OPM…

“Honestly, I cancelled a couple of scenes where I felt the meaning could be interpreted wrongly. It was a very interesting thing for me because it made me realize that with Detroit: Become Human, that we are dealing with very meaningful things and that you need to be careful and be respectful and pay attention to what you have to say.

 

“And that was scary but at the same time, once the fear has gone, you say ‘wait a second, I’m working on a videogame, it’s meaningful, it’s important, it has something to say, it needs to be respectful, I need to pay attention to everything, but at the same time I’m talking about something’.”

Detroit: Become Human has already received some criticisms after the latest trailer aired during E3 this year, which some felt was mimicking talking points from Black Lives Matters.

Others have criticized Detroit: Become Human for not being a real game.

For Cage, he explains that some of the content was a little too serious for the upcoming title, and that some of the controversial current events taking place in the world were topics they didn’t want to “use” in the game, where says…

“For me, there was no way I wanted to use existing issues in a game that is still entertainment, no matter how much passion and honesty we put into it, it’s still just a game. There are some very serious things happening and we didn’t want to ‘use’ them, so we had many conversations about that.”

There isn’t a lot of positive hype for Detroit: Become Human, and it’s definitely something that is likely to worry Quantic Dream given that sales will definitely be limited as a single-platform exclusive.

A lot of games that have been pursuing Social Justice issues or current day political events haven’t fared so great on the marketplace. Many of them also diving deep into sociopolitical talking points popular within Liberal academic circles have also fallen short of sales expectations, and so one must consider if Cage is aware of the current marketplace climate and if they’ll be making any adjustments to avoid falling into the same pit as others?


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  • Alistair

    The thing is the question should be, do you want a game that mimic real left events. With warts and all like pushed social justice into every game.

    No you wouldn’t, besides social justice of using real life issues won’t work in a ecchi game. Or can you imagine social justice in GTA the games will be disjointed that it won’t work.

  • that’s cool and all, but WUT ABOUT ZEMOTIONS?!

  • GuyverOne

    Indigo Prophecy was a great title but I have a feeling this one is ripe for being a SJW title. the latest Deus Ex game imo ventured into SJWism too much for my liking with all the refugee crap.

    Sounds like Cage is a little on the fence as too which way to go with this game.

  • Bamf

    I don’t believe in censorship, but my fear would be a game that sounds cool turning into an angry feminist, violent antifa and crazy black lives matter promoting game.

    We have enough assholes who cry about Trump. I just want to play a fun and exciting game.

  • Feli Aslan

    I can respect that he doesn’t uses current events to win marxism points from SJWs.

    Although in both cases the story is similarily easy: SJWs followed an ideology that slaughtered a hundred million people and androids are no human beings, they are creations and don’t deserve human rights, the humans are 100% in the right in the game.

    Ad Victoriam
    For the Brotherhood.

    • Disqusted

      I think we can also interpret what he said as sounding like he knows that any kind of virtue signalling would just as likely be used as an excuse to play the victim anyway. That’s what SJWs are really after.

    • LurkerJK

      I think that is going to be the theme of the game, Cage is going to try to make the “Robots deserve rights and free will” argument and everyone else is going to say “They are defective products that are not fulfilling their purpose and actively harming everything around them, just turn them off”

      When you try to talk about enslaving tools that have been made to fill a specific purpose, things get stupid
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekP0LQEsUh0&t=0m53s

      • Feli Aslan

        I mean, I’m a little on the center in this debate. I think that if there were computers that can emulate sentience, they should be programmed to follow certain robotic rules while on the other hand, it should be the social standart to treat them with kindness and don’t inflicht unnecessary harm on them, especially if they can emulate feelings like fear or suffering. I see this stance not very often these days, but I think that there is something between treating semi-sentient robots like toys that we can abuse like we want and acting like they are human. On the other hand robots can never be hold responsible for their actions, if they do something wrong it is not due to their error but due to an error in their programming, a bug or a virus, so defect robots shouldn’t be destroyed but instead they need to be examined so that a bugfix can be created. This is another problem, a being that can never develope legal culpability should never be able to hold the same rights as one that possesses legal culpability.

        • LurkerJK

          Ah, but here is the issue, you are thinking about these sentient machines as if they were humans

          They are not

          They know their creators and they know why they were created.

          Why are you assuming they would not welcome their purpose ? Wouldn’t knowing their role in life eliminate a lot of that pesky confusion that plagues us ?

          You talk about harm & kindness, what is harm to a robot ? what is kindness to them ? why would they interpret pain or happiness the same way as we do ?

          do they have neurotransmitters ? then why wouldnt the programmers use the neurotransmitters to control their actions?
          do what we want you do to, here you go some “feel good” transmitters
          do something we do not want you to do, no transmitters

          wouldn’t that be mind control ? does it bother you that a tool we made is forced to do what its supposed to do ?, how would tech even get funding if tools could choose not to do their thing ?

          For what ive seen in the trailers the robots in this game are not just harmlessly wondering if there is something else for them, they are being actively harmful to humans, breaking down society and dangerously spreading their “free will bug” while rioting, so yeah, destroy them or turn them off and fix them the same way you would do so to a non humanoid military murder robot that went out of control, the only difference between them is how they look (an artificial look we gave them because it was part of their purpose btw), you are emphasizing with them because of the skin-suit they are wearing, you would not say this if they looked like walking fridges

          • Feli Aslan

            Semi-Sentient Robots are still tools, I don’t deny that. They are not humans, they are there to fulfill their purpose for us humans. They are replacable.

            What I say is that if a machine is able to emulate sentience and even emotions, that we should treat them in their interaction with a basic human kindness. You know, not causing harm on them if this isn’t necessary for their purpose. Treat them like something we value. Simply treating them like something that emulates humanity and therefore may have the sensation of being alive and feeling emotions. Again, not like humans. Not like something that has the same rights as humans. I think an ethical society should have a set of rights robots possess, different than others constructed for the conditions under which they exist. I mean for example if you would have a robot with emulated sentience and emotions that is your housekeeper, your servant, would you treat it cruel or in a uncivil way? I think you and most people would treat it polite as a tool your value, it is your possession and you don’t want to break or harm it, so you wouldn’t for example let it do something that harms it just for the fun of it. And you would look after it if something gets broken, you would look that it gets repaired and if you want to replace it, you would look that it get deactivitated in a non-violent way or, if it still works and you simply want a newer model, it would be the most ethical to see if you can resell it or give it away, so that others could make use of the robot in second hand if it is still able to fullfill its functions. Machines like that would creat the need of new ethics about how to interact with them.

            But yeah, in this case it is very clear for me that this robots are broken and should be fixed. They are not human beings and it is wrong to think they are the same. I think in such a scenario, the best way would be to destroy them if necessary and to try to fix them if it is possible. I am on the side of humans in this plot by proxy. But on the other hand I don’t think that such a scenario could happen if reallife. If some robots would go renegade, which they couldn’t on their own it needs a human error or human criminal intention to make robots not work the way they should, there would be a bugfix pretty fast and the firewall and anti-virus softwares would be upgraded to detect this virus. And it would be the most ethical and humane thing imaginable to protect them from this “Free Will”-Malware as it means to avoid damage, malfunction and possible destruction of highly developed machines. It is like protecting animals from catching rabies.

  • Disqusted

    it made me realize that with Detroit: Become Human, that we are dealing
    with very meaningful things and that you need to be careful and be
    respectful and pay attention to what you have to say

    No, people nowadays are just sensitive snowflakes who make a living getting offended as an excuse to bully people, and can’t distinguish between fiction and reality.

    • On the flip side… if he made his game all pro-feminist, pro-SJW, or some BLM-style story, where it was just ham-fistedly virtue signaling, would SJWs really attack him for it?

  • LurkerJK

    Others have criticized Detroit: Become Human for not being a real game.

    That seems like a stupid thing to say. Cage has made 3 games that play exactly like this one, they are infamous, you KNOW what you are getting into if you buy Detroit

    He is not like the Gone Home devs, the Amnesia: whatver of pigs devs or the Hellblade devs that keep trying to bait and switch you with a walking simulator.
    I do not like Cage, but i dont think he deserves to be in the same bag as those guys.

    • Disqusted

      I don’t think it’s a matter of comparison. Cage’s recent works haven’t exactly had much gameplay. I think Heavy Rain was more interesting because you could fail and face the consequences.

      If I recall correctly, failing in Beyond Two Souls mostly resulted in repeating the sequence. He could have added extra gameover scenes, at least. Alternate paths would’ve been nice, but require more work. I do feel like, what’s the point of making it a game if it’s still linear?

      Anyway, I don’t know anything about Detroit, so I can’t judge that. But as you said, it’s not like we expect gameplay in his stuff anymore. I just feel that some of these kinds of games cross the line and would’ve been better off as films instead.

      • LurkerJK

        Recent ?

        Indigo Prophesy/Fahrenheit is 2005
        Heavy rain 2010
        Beyond two souls 2015

        Thats 12 freaking years, those 3 games are pretty much clones of each other when it comes down to the “gameplay” part

        I will not argue that what he makes are just bad movies, its obvious he wants to be a movie maker instead of a game maker.

        My main complain with walking simulators and other non-games are that they are often shifty about it, they lie about what they are or what to expect, i have not seen Cage do that, he only cares about story and he has said that repeatedly

        That said, I have never liked Cage’s “games” but i did find a lot of “so bad its hilarious” enjoyment out of Indigo and heavy rain, some of the best streams ive been in were “playing” those two. Beyond was the most boring shit ive ever watched on youtube tho.

  • AlecJ

    In other words we censored ourselves in order to not get destroyed by the completely insane games “journalism” industry.

    I cant blame him, but its a sad state of affairs.

    The big game sites are no different then the mainstream media anymore….

    They review games on an agenda scale not an entertainment one…..If a title is made by one of their sjw friends, has the correct politics, or is centered around an “approved” subject matter….

    automatic 9/10

    Its all agenda driven…..even when you are not sure how.

  • “Honestly, I cancelled a couple of scenes where I felt
    the meaning could be interpreted wrongly. It was a very interesting
    thing for me because it made me realize that with Detroit: Become Human,
    that we are dealing with very meaningful things and that you need to be
    careful and be respectful and pay attention to what you have to say.”

    This comment pretty much sums up the state of the video games industry today.

    SJWs, feminists and race whiners are complete cancer.

    • ScarredBushido

      then you got Based japanese devs who say get fucked lol

      • They won’t be based forever, considering that numerous Japanese developers have said before that they want to break into the Western video games market.

  • Mr.Towel

    You know it’s a sad world when David Cage shows more common sense than your average developer.

    Emotion.

  • Gorgon

    >David Cage
    >video games

    Pick one.